IMF head Dominique Strauss-Kahn : France's would-be president , accused of sex attack

**foreigner** · 02-07-2011, 10:36 AM

[quote=larvidchr;1801584]

Originally Posted by foreigner

Originally Posted by socal

Originally Posted by larvidchr

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But we all know the truth
where is a link to that "it became violent"? or is that just right wing nutter BS?
where has DFK stated he paid her? or is that just right wing nutter BS?
the truth: never believe anything a right wing nutter says! .. never!

So her badly bruised vagina and the torn shoulder ligament etc. etc. was just part of the fun

if you want a link go find it yourself, never help a left wing nutter, ..never

There is only two possibility's yes, either it was rape or an act of prostitution,

possibility 3 it was a planned set up.

why was she in there alone?
with a torn shoulder ligament she cleaned another room & went back to his room before calling management..
- a torn shoulder ligament is not a discrepancy in testimony .. that is a measurable objective finding.
what happened to the reported running down the hall naked chasing her

**harrybarracuda** · 02-07-2011, 11:15 AM

Originally Posted by socal

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

I must admit, I think socal has been at DD's late night stash.

I think he must have a yearning to get a bit of that Strauss Kahn ass reaming himself.

DSK is just another guy you can add to the list of high profile men that get caught up in traps set up by women that only fucking retards feel sorry for and blindly believe.

Jullian Assange, Kobe Bryant, the lacross players in the US......you name it.

Kobe Bryant, the perfect example.

Can we say "settled out of court"?

What a fucking idiot.

**robuzo** · 02-07-2011, 11:22 AM

From the NYT: "Prosecutors said they still believed Mr. Strauss-Kahn had forced the woman into sex, but that inconsistencies in her past and account of the moments following the incident could make it hard for jurors to believe her."

SK has by no means been exonerated. He hasn't been proved guilty, either, but having their credibility assaulted after they have been physically assaulted is an important reason women don't report rape.

**Norton** · 02-07-2011, 12:40 PM

Originally Posted by good2bhappy

To convict the DA must prove "beyond reasonable doubt" That looks a little unlikely Best to save taxpayers money and drop the charges

You've got it. DA has to assess odds of winning. All rape cases are he said she said based. Defense will attack her "credibility" and prosecution will attack his. Prosecution will try to convince jury physical and forensic evidence supports her story and defense will contend it does not. So far nothing has changed in respect to physical and forensic evidence.

The recent disclosure of her having multiple bank accounts into which a convicted drug dealer has been depositing funds, her lying to immigration officials and lying about cleaning another room after the alleged rape do question her credibility but more importantly all three are subject to her being charged with money laundering, immigration violations and lying to prosecutors.

If the trail goes forward, she can invoke her fifth amendment rights and refuse to answer any questions about the three subjects as it may incriminate her in crimes unrelated to the alleged rape. If she does it will no longer be a case of he said she said but rather he said she didn't. Often prosecutors will grant immunity if witnesses agree to testify. If DA does his the defense will have a strong argument the maid is lying to keep from being prosecuted.

If I was a juror, based purely on the forensic and physical evidence I would likely conclude a rape took place. Unless the prosecution made a damn good arguement as to why, the fact she cleaned another room after the rape would lead me to conclude there was reasonable doubt she was raped. Hence not guilty from me.

DA is really between a rock and a hard place in light of these newly discovered issues. IMO, the odds of a successful prosecution are slim. Going forward with the case and likely losing will be politically disastrous for the DA's office. Dropping the case now will have polical ramifications but not near as bad as a long drawn out, expensive trial loss. If it was me I'd opt for the latter.

Originally Posted by BobR

District Attorneys have nearly absolute immunity and cannot be sued even if they jump the gun and act incompetently as they did here.

Agree on immunity. Without it any case lost by DA would result in civil suit.

Disagree on acting incompetently. Based on the evidence and her statement they had at the time they had enough to conclude the maid was raped. Unlike the average case where more investigation could be done they had only a couple of hours. They had to move swiftly or DSK would be on a plane out of the country with little hope he could ever be extradited. In this regard, they acted competently. Knowing the media frenzy surrounding the case, parading him in front of cameras handcuffed was incompetent. Not by the DA but by the judge allowing it.

This whole episode has become a lose/lose for all. DSK has had his career ruined, DA's office will have big political loss and the maid may end up in jail for criminal activity. Oops. There will be one winner. DSK's defense lawyers.

Will DSK bring a civil suit? Only two I can think of it would be against is the DA's office, the City of New York or the maid. DA's office is immune so no way there, NYC has nothing directly to do with it. The maid, forget it. Could probably get a big judgment but she has no money so fruitless. I doubt he is interested in a civil suit in any case. The last thing he needs is more attention.

Unfortunately, sure looks to me the maid's shister lawyer is setting the stage for a civil suit against DSK.

**Butterfly** · 02-07-2011, 12:44 PM

Originally Posted by Norton

NYC has nothing directly to do with it

it should the NYC police department more precisely, and indirectly the city

it happened before and "victims" have been awarded millions for it,

**HermantheGerman** · 02-07-2011, 12:45 PM

Originally Posted by larvidchr

do you think a maid walks into a room where there is a old wrinkled mummy of a man she has never seen before in her life and within a minute or two decides to have consensual sex with him for free because of his obvious charm and beauty

Old wrinkled mummy ? Have you ever been to Thailand ? You would'nt believe all those wrinkled mummy's running arround with young chicks having been raped. Remember Boris Becker ? Before that poor black maid said:"Pleeeease No! Mr. Bumm Bumm Boris" she had one in the oven. Right in the janitors closet.

Rape ? Money ? Good Looks ? Take your pick !

**Norton** · 02-07-2011, 01:07 PM

Originally Posted by Butterfly

it should the NYC police department more precisely

An arrest warrant was issued for DSK arrest. They carried out the warrant. As far as I know, he was informed of his rights. He was not subjected to illegal interrogation. In fact he was not interrogated at all. He refused to answer any questions until his lawyers were present. What would be basis for a suit?

**FlyFree** · 02-07-2011, 01:21 PM

Originally Posted by BaitongBoy

^Mindless blabber. But, nice try oh exalted fwit...

No offence of course, exalted fwit...

No offense taken boy.

Such an in depth analysis and response can only leave one with a feeling of exalted wonder and respect.

**BaitongBoy** · 02-07-2011, 01:49 PM

Originally Posted by FlyFree

Such an in depth analysis and response can only leave one with a feeling of exalted wonder and respect.

Glad you like it...much like the 'idiot trap' you put your foot in a few posts back when I livened up this thread...
What's that hanging out your ass end?

**good2bhappy** · 02-07-2011, 02:04 PM

Originally Posted by Norton

DSK has had his career ruined

maybe maybe not

**Norton** · 02-07-2011, 02:08 PM

Originally Posted by good2bhappy

maybe maybe not

Good point. He may well be perceived as more electable in France than before his arrest but getting back in the race for upcoming election a bit too late. Continuing his career at IMF not likely. Too much water under the bridge.

**OhOh** · 02-07-2011, 02:37 PM

Another great advert for the American way of life.

A failed state.

Well done butterfly for keeping the thread warm

**good2bhappy** · 02-07-2011, 02:45 PM

The conspiracy unravels
You see the Americans know the French hate them so by vilifying themselves by wrongful arrest they know that they will make DFK a French hero and thereby insuring his election to the presidency.
Thus creating a grateful ally

**HermantheGerman** · 02-07-2011, 02:56 PM

These two statements have to make you think....somethings wrong here.
My verdict: Lying whore and dirty ole man have met their match. He will have to pay some money to her and promise not to sue the City of N.Y.

"When she was fighting to get away, when she was on her knees and he was sexually assaulting her, after he finished, she got up and started to run to the door and started spitting Dominique Strauss-Kahn's semen out of her mouth in disgust."

"She later admitted she actually went and cleaned another room - and even returned to clean Strauss-Kahn's empty suite - before reporting the incident."

**Seekingasylum** · 02-07-2011, 03:12 PM

Originally Posted by robuzo

From the NYT: "Prosecutors said they still believed Mr. Strauss-Kahn had forced the woman into sex, but that inconsistencies in her past and account of the moments following the incident could make it hard for jurors to believe her."

SK has by no means been exonerated. He hasn't been proved guilty, either, but having their credibility assaulted after they have been physically assaulted is an important reason women don't report rape.

Precisely.

Most rape cases resolve to whose account the jury chooses to believe. Having fibbed on earlier occasions, and seems to be colluding in money laundering, it doesn't help her credibility and since she is making the allegation he has little to do except sit there while the prosecution's case is demolished when she admits to earlier deceptions.

That of course doesn't mean DSK is not a a fat, randy, old, perverted French stoat and just because his victim is a piece of West African trash who may have wanted to profit from her ordeal doesn't mean he ain't a rapist.

**OhOh** · 02-07-2011, 03:29 PM

Originally Posted by HermantheGerman

When she was fighting to get away .......

Whoever is writing her script has talent.

Originally Posted by thegent

doesn't mean he ain't a rapist.

The converse is equally true.

**OhOh** · 02-07-2011, 03:32 PM

Originally Posted by HermantheGerman

He will have to pay some money

The "US government"

rate for the death of a "Foreigner" is $200, so $10 would be a starting point.

**Tom Sawyer** · 02-07-2011, 08:16 PM

Funny to see the rabid anti-socialists backtracking now that it appears he DIDN'T do it and it was a fucking set up all along. As many of us predicted I might add - oh look I did add it.

**harrybarracuda** · 02-07-2011, 08:32 PM

Originally Posted by Tom Sawyer

Funny to see the rabid anti-socialists backtracking now that it appears he DIDN'T do it and it was a fucking set up all along. As many of us predicted I might add - oh look I did add it.

I think the possibility that the witness has been nobbled is far more plausible than the theory that the dirty garlic munching pervert was.

**socal** · 02-07-2011, 10:17 PM

Originally Posted by larvidchr

Originally Posted by foreigner

Originally Posted by socal

Originally Posted by larvidchr

Case is not over

Khann is just out on bail and the prosecution have not dropped the case.

And by the way, if Khann just bought sex from the woman then he stands to a conviction for soliciting a prostitute which is a crime in New York punishable with up to 3 months prison.

But we all know the truth, whether it was consensual or not in the beginning, Khann turned violent during the incident as he has on many occasions before..

It is not technically over but you can tell by the news story that the people on the inside know it is over.

They found out that this is some corrupt lying bitch and now it is just a matter of getting the paperwork done.

But we all know the truth
where is a link to that "it became violent"? or is that just right wing nutter BS?
where has DFK stated he paid her? or is that just right wing nutter BS?
the truth: never believe anything a right wing nutter says! .. never!

So her badly bruised vagina and the torn shoulder ligament etc. etc. was just part of the fun

if you want a link go find it yourself, never help a left wing nutter, ..never

There is only two possibility's yes, either it was rape or an act of prostitution, do you think a maid walks into a room where there is a old wrinkled mummy of a man she has never seen before in her life and within a minute or two decides to have consensual sex with him for free because of his obvious charm and beauty

that old ugly creep have to pay or rape, only way for him to get his rocks off as proven by his previous sexual assaults galore.

uu yes dick head. Women always do shit like this. He is rich and famous and he is married. He probably gets tons of offers

**socal** · 02-07-2011, 10:20 PM

Originally Posted by foreigner

Originally Posted by Butterfly

harryb owned again with his usual non-sense

I always knew he was innocent, so out of character, that is the violent part

the DA is going to be having a huge bills, and I hope he sues the city of NY for billions

looks like DA will be out of a job soon, for over reaction and trying to play this politically

in the feminized us, a woman screaming rape claim is almost always considered valid until she is proven to be .. a woman

i live in a house I bought from a doctor who let a known trouble maker into his office / apartment at 2 am (his home was at the beach 30 miles away & he had an apartment in his building .. my home was a rental he sold for legal fees & living expenses)

he was a very heavy drinker & was drunk when he let her in.
he admits having sex.

she had a history of crying rape but that was not admissible .. even her father had been arrested behind her insane claims, again not admissible.

his arrest made the front page of the local paper (below the fold but on the front page)
the doc finally got off on a technicality but not before being totally humiliated & financially ruined.. eventually he lost his practice.

in the us, think twice before letting any woman into your home or business unescorted!

the standard procedure at DSK's hotel was 2 house keepers in the room

Yep, and look at all the heat bargirls take. When the lowest of the low, scum of the earth are these western cnuts.

**socal** · 02-07-2011, 10:27 PM

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

Originally Posted by socal

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

I must admit, I think socal has been at DD's late night stash.

I think he must have a yearning to get a bit of that Strauss Kahn ass reaming himself.

DSK is just another guy you can add to the list of high profile men that get caught up in traps set up by women that only fucking retards feel sorry for and blindly believe.

Jullian Assange, Kobe Bryant, the lacross players in the US......you name it.

Kobe Bryant, the perfect example.

Can we say "settled out of court"?

What a fucking idiot.

Yeah, BUT THAT DOES NOT MEAN HE WAS GUILTY. These cnuts always know that they have a 50% chance in court no matter how full of lies and bullshit they are.

It is just the opposite actually. If a woman was really raped then her and her family would want to see the guy go to jail for his crime, no matter how much money is thrown around. But when its bullshit, hey just cut me and check and be a free man.

Bill Orielly is another one.

**foreigner** · 02-07-2011, 11:40 PM

So her badly bruised vagina and the torn shoulder ligament etc. etc. was just part of the fun if you want a link go find it yourself, never help a left wing nutter, ..never

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/07/02/ny...1&pagewanted=2
During a meeting at the district attorney’s office on June 9, the woman wept as she was questioned closely after Mr. Thompson had left for another engagement. Her 15-year-old daughter, who was waiting outside, noticed that her mother was upset and called a relative to alert Mr. Thompson. The lawyer called the prosecutors and demanded an end to the questioning. He said on Friday that the daughter heard them shout, “Get out! Get out! Get out of here!” at her mother. The authorities say there was no shouting.
At another meeting, the woman threw herself to the floor in response to questions, the well-placed official said.

Then, for some 10 days, prosecutors were unable to get Mr. Thompson to bring her in; the lawyer said she was being treated for a shoulder injury that she suffered in the attack, an injury she had not reported earlier.

re bruised vagina: I have pounded le puss'a with all my might, grabbed headboards for leverage & never achieved bruising.
DSK is a pudgy old fart who has not lifted anything heavier than his gold Philippe watch in years .. umm, perhaps a magnum of Dom ..

& she is a documented conniving ho ..

I wish I had the power to bruise a vagina.
vagina bruiser would be a good screen name.

**foreigner** · 02-07-2011, 11:45 PM

re cum on the floor: how many loads have been applied to an average nana room's carpet?

**harrybarracuda** · 03-07-2011, 12:59 AM

Originally Posted by foreigner

re cum on the floor: how many loads have been applied to an average nana room's carpet?

If it was is, and she did clean another room, she must have had her mouth closed for quite a while.

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