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    Quote Originally Posted by good2bhappy View Post
    "One of my strongest memories from 9/11 is people celebrating around the world. I remember being disgusted. Now I have just seen Americans celebrating the death of Bin Laden outside the White House, I am again disgusted. I believe this scene may even incite more hatred and terror against in America and Europe."
    interesting comment
    I don't think it is appropriate, either. Seems very immature. It isn't as if our side just won the World Cup or similar. This is serious business. Then again, in a country where someone like Donald Trump can be taken seriously as a presidential candidate, a lack of seriousness is to be expected.

    Perhaps I should elaborate just a bit more. Celebrations at the end of a war, like the parties on VJ day, are understandable. The death of this criminal doesn't mark the end of anything, it is just another milestone in a complex, ongoing situation.
    “You can lead a horticulture but you can’t make her think.” Dorothy Parker

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    I thought Osama was supposed to be living in poverty in a cave somewhere not living the life of riley in a multi million $ mansion???

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan View Post
    Well that certainly won't fuel any conspiracy theories, will it. T
    My thoughts entirely.


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    Quote Originally Posted by TafkaB View Post
    Buried at sea! Dare I say, sounds quite unbelievable.

    There will lots of questions about this.
    That's where they lost me. No celebration for this ex-American tonight.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sunsetter View Post
    First thought..

    His prominent nose has been replaced with the nose of an isaan bargirl.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TafkaB View Post
    First thought..

    His prominent nose has been replaced with the nose of an isaan bargirl.
    My thoughts too.



    It's beginning to smell....maybe he had rhinoplasty.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BobR View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by TafkaB View Post
    Buried at sea! Dare I say, sounds quite unbelievable.

    There will lots of questions about this.
    That's where they lost me. No celebration for this ex-American tonight.
    I don't get it, either.

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    after one year and three weeks without television, we were connected up with cable on Thursday; since then on the one English-language news channel, we've had:

    - flag waving for a wedding in England
    - flag waving for a pope/saint in the Vatican
    - flag waving for Osama Bin Laden. Not exactly for him, for his death

    if this continues I won't renew next month.


    A man who said he was dressed as Captain America cheers across the street from the White House in Washington
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    Got a couple of emails from US. Here's the gist...

    Warden Message: Travel Alert from the Department of State


    The U.S. Department of State alerts U.S. citizens traveling and residing
    abroad to the enhanced potential for anti-American violence given recent
    counter-terrorism activity in Pakistan. Given the uncertainty and
    volatility of the current situation, U.S. citizens in areas where recent
    events could cause anti-American violence are strongly urged to limit
    their travel outside of their homes and hotels and avoid mass gatherings
    and demonstrations. U.S. citizens should stay current with media
    coverage of local events and be aware of their surroundings at all
    times. This Travel Alert expires August 1, 2011.

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    Look I think its a good thing. But true or not the shit is going to hit the fan, Travel warnings world wide already.

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    Osama isdead

    U.S. inteligence has suspected for years that Osama was in fact living very comfortably in Paksistan. He obviously must have had some very high level "friends" in Pakistan. The compound he was killed in was only 800 yards from the most prestigious and well known Pakistani military acadamy...the funtional equivalnt (for you Brits) of having a top-rank IRA man living that close to Sandhurst. So somebody at a very high level had to be his protector in Pakistan.
    In fact, Osama never was....and certainly hasn't been for some years the "leader" of Al Queda. That organization, which is only a loose organization anyhow, never had "leader". It always was not much more tha a group of people with a loose common objective... the opposition to what they percieved as "western" and "non-Islamic" interference in the Arab world. I can't remember the translation of the name Al Queda...but I think it means something like "the Group" or "the Association". It is NOT an organization with one person in charge, it never was...but more a group of different organizations with a common purpose...which was to oppose what they felt was the "non-Islamic" influence of western values in the Islamic Arab world.
    I wouldn't be surprised if the first reaction to his death won't be in Pakistan itself. I suspect his death will be very unwelcome in Pakistan and could even bring down the current Pakistani government. That's just my half-educated guess...we will have to see what unfolds in the next few days or weeks.
    Don't get me wrong...I don't think of him as a hero nor do I admire him. In his own way however, he did what he believed to be right (even though his methods were most certainky wrong) and he, in his own view, probably died for what he truely believed.
    But then, the so did Adolph Hitler.

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    It is not permissible to bury a dead person in the sea unless people fear that his corpse will get rotten. If so, it is permissible for them to wash his body and offer funeral prayer for the deceased, and put up something heavy with the corpse so that it will plunge into the seabed. If there is some water in the grave, it should be dried up or the deceased should be enshrouded in a water-proof cloth; however, it is preferable not to bury the deceased in such places which can be figured out by experience.

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    I doubt much is going to happen other than possibly in the Pakistan region. A decade has passed. Usually when leaders die it seems word gets out of a newly appointed one. If there is any organization to the group that info should come out soon enough. At the same time the nutters with him could exploit his death keep him alive.

    He's dead and the era of his organisation is over. Let's see if anything new develops. There will always be nutters out there that's for sure because half of America's enemies live in the US right now.


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    Putting him at sea gets rid of a 'scared place' for nutters who might want to worship him. God knows the muslim world is nuts about land and history.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TafkaB
    real or not?


    An image circulating on the Internet and displayed on some television news programs abroad purports to show Osama bin Laden’s bloody corpse.

    No U.S. or Pakistani officials have confirmed its authenticity, and two U.S. officials have warned NBC News that the image is a hoax.

    Based on an initial look into the image file, we agree, and think it’s a fake. At first glance, the pixelation around the “wound” area and the odd lack of transition between different colored cloth and flesh indicate that the image has been manipulated.

    Furthermore, the facial expression and beard are very reminiscent of a 1998 image of bin Laden, the first picture shown below. Next to it, we show the original resolution of the “corpse” image as we’ve seen it (197 by 263 pixels), “flopped” 180 degrees on the horizontal axis to conform to the original 1998 image’s beard orientation. The third image is a blended image of the two, with the “corpse” image at 100 percent opacity below the original image at 43 percent opacity.

    The way the images “lock” in place at the mouth, beard and nose indicate to us that the image circulating on the Web and some foreign television outlets is nothing but a clumsy fake:

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    Quote Originally Posted by genghis61 View Post
    after one year and three weeks without television, we were connected up with cable on Thursday; since then on the one English-language news channel, we've had:

    - flag waving for a wedding in England
    - flag waving for a pope/saint in the Vatican
    - flag waving for Osama Bin Laden. Not exactly for him, for his death

    if this continues I won't renew next month.
    Hang around another few weeks and we may hear that WMD have been found in Iraq.

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    News went round quick, I flew out of Larnaca this morning and they had one security check open doing everything and everybody; normally it's fairly relaxed.

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    Celebrations


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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    News went round quick, I flew out of Larnaca this morning and they had one security check open doing everything and everybody; normally it's fairly relaxed.
    I,m just North of London.
    They've changed all the airline routes today.
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    Celebrations

    What a horrible picture. Revenge is a perfectly understandable emotion and it's something that everyone feels but public wallowing in it is not an attractive spectacle. And of course, the fact that these chumps have almost certainly thought no further than the latest TV-bullshit explanation for why they're in 3 wars at the moment doesn't really add to the appeal.

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    623. * If a person dies on a ship and if there is no fear of the decay of the dead body and if there is no problem in retaining it for sometime on the ship, it should be kept on it and buried in the ground after reaching the land. Otherwise, after giving Ghusl, Hunut, Kafan and Namaz-e-Mayyit it should be lowered into the sea in a vessel of clay or with a weight tied to its feet. And as far as possible it should not be lowered at a point where it is eaten up immediately by the sea predators.
    seems to me that what they did was wrong

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    and now cometh the fatwa.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tamsin View Post

    Considering all of the raid complications, it is still not a bad shot...

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    Quote Originally Posted by sunsetter
    very defining moment in his presidency
    hardly, I would say the lowest point actually, using cheap PR to increase his chance next year and court right wing nutters is definitely not a high point

    he did accomplish something in 2 years however than GW Bush the loser couldn't in 8 years

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