Thread: Australia multiculturalism 'world leader'

• AAP
• November 17, 2010 4:31AM

AUSTRALIA is a world leader in multiculturalism, with most newcomers hailing from England, New Zealand and China, a report has found.

A whopping one quarter of the total population is born overseas, far ahead of other OECD countries which average 11 per cent.
A large majority of those entering the nation do so under the skilled migration program, making up about 62 per cent - or 115,000 people - of the total intake in 2008, according to the latest AMP.NATSEM Income and Wealth Report.
England and NZ remain the two major source countries, totalling about 30 per cent, while in the decade to 2006, China toppled Italy for third place, accounting for five per cent of those relocating Down Under.
But the nation's humanitarian intake amounted to just seven per cent, with asylum seekers totalling about one fifth or less of this group.
Overall, Australia has a ratio of 10 refugees per 10,000 head of population, compared to 87 per 10,000 in Sweden and 50 per 10,000 in Canada, the report found.
And it appears in many cases the skills of highly educated newcomers from non-English speaking countries are not being utilised, NATSEM author and research fellow Riyana Miranti said.
About 38 per cent of people in that category were found to be working in low or medium skilled occupations, compared to 19 per cent of Australian-born tertiary-educated people aged 35 to 54.
About 20 per cent of migrants from mainly English speaking countries in that age group were working in low-or medium skilled jobs.
The Calling Australia Home report, released today, also showed non-migrant households are wealthier than migrants in general, but the scenario was reversed when judged on property assets alone.
Migrant households led their Australian-born counterparts with $262,700 in property compared to $250,800 for non-migrant households, the data revealed.
AMP Financial Services managing director Craig Meller said migration had significantly contributed to the country's economic well being and culture.
"Migration is embedded in our history ... and will undoubtedly play a significant role in shaping Australia's longterm future," he said.
The majority of data used in the report is sourced from the Australian Bureau of Statistics 2006 Census of Population and Housing, and unit record data from the Household, Income and Labour Dynamics in Australia (HILDA) Survey.


Australia multiculturalism 'world leader' | Herald Sun

I havenot been there for about 8 years , last time i went i liked Perth best , nicest city and seemingly fewest immigrants ,
only one area of Perth had noticeable immigrants , north- whatever , and that was a dangerous shit hole ,better get your newcomers from Europe , or you will lose what made Australia ,in the first place .
3rd world immigrants /refugees just come for the money not the lifestyle.

Originally Posted by bobo746

But the nation's humanitarian intake amounted to just seven per cent, with asylum seekers totalling about one fifth or less of this group.

So what, Australia would rather people stay close to where they currently are and help them out there. The need to ship people into areas which have a much different culture to their own is not always beneficial to either them or their new neighbours.

Originally Posted by bobo746

And it appears in many cases the skills of highly educated newcomers from non-English speaking countries are not being utilised, NATSEM author and research fellow Riyana Miranti said.

And what skills would these be? Is their education qualifications reconised in Australia? Are the qualifications relevent in Australia? Obviously no!

Originally Posted by bobo746

About 38 per cent of people in that category were found to be working in low or medium skilled occupations, compared to 19 per cent of Australian-born tertiary-educated people aged 35 to 54.
About 20 per cent of migrants from mainly English speaking countries in that age group were working in low-or medium skilled jobs.

So it goes without saying that English speaking skills are a valuable asset in Australia.

Originally Posted by bobo746

The Calling Australia Home report, released today, also showed non-migrant households are wealthier than migrants in general, but the scenario was reversed when judged on property assets alone.
Migrant households led their Australian-born counterparts with $262,700 in property compared to $250,800 for non-migrant households, the data revealed.

Most migrants live in urban areas where the property prices are higher. Another irrelevent statistic.

I'm an Australian.

I must say that many of my really good friends are immigrants to Australia.

I also must say that I know many Australians who are racist pricks & as a result, I now have more 'immigrant' friends than Australian friends.

Originally Posted by EssEffBee

I'm an Australian.

I must say that many of my really good friends are immigrants to Australia.

I also must say that I know many Australians who are racist pricks & as a result, I now have more 'immigrant' friends than Australian friends.

reading into what you say , you are not even entertaining the idea , that immigrants might be racist ?

lets face it,with out immigrant tradesmen and knowledge, australians would still be a third world country, here in rural queensland with our mass unemployment, the only people genuinely looking for work are immigrants, the average unemployed queenslander under the age of 40 still thinks Manual Labour is a Spaniard

Originally Posted by Ningi

lets face it,with out immigrant tradesmen and knowledge, australians would still be a third world country, here in rural queensland with our mass unemployment, the only people genuinely looking for work are immigrants, the average unemployed queenslander under the age of 40 still thinks Manual Labour is a Spaniard

i thought what made Australia a 1st world country with a healthy economy was its exports : Iron Ore, Coal, Gold, Crude Oil and LNG, Wheat , Wine , etc + a huge tourist industry , and a government that does not run up gigantic deficits .

BUT NO its all down to a few immigrant tradesmen .....

also was not aware that you were ever a third world country ....

Originally Posted by Ningi

here in rural queensland

i thought you said you lived out the back of the gold coast?, i thought rural was like a good days drive from the coast, not the hinterland..

Originally Posted by Ningi

the only people genuinely looking for work are immigrants, the average unemployed queenslander under the age of 40

gotta agree with you there, dole bludgers are every where, now i hear they can lodge their forms on line..what a life hey, they don,t even have to get out of bed!

one more thing NINGI, if you find QLD so bad to live in, you can always fuck off to somewhere else, we could do with one less whinger...are you a pommie perchance?

must admit I've never thought of soap dodgers and K1W1's as being included in multi cultural

Originally Posted by blue

last time i went i liked Perth best , nicest city and seemingly fewest immigrants ,
only one area of Perth had noticeable immigrants , and that was a dangerous shit hole
3rd world immigrants /refugees just come for the money not the lifestyle.

Foking hell mate, your talking about Rockingham aint ya. ?

20 Klm south of Fremantle and chock full of sock and sandle wearing, soap dodging Pommie bastards.

They only get violent though if some bastard steals there Fish and chips after they been drinking shandies down the Pub.

One of the lily white throttlers told me they sort of stayed on after there Great Grand Dads invaded the place and foked off all the natives.

Originally Posted by Ningi

lets face it,with out immigrant tradesmen and knowledge, australians would still be a third world country, here in rural queensland with our mass unemployment, the only people genuinely looking for work are immigrants, the average unemployed queenslander under the age of 40 still thinks Manual Labour is a Spaniard

Indeed. Without the migrants AUS would be full of people on a doll.

Real Australians, of which there are few, are hopeless cooks. Throwing a freshly killed kangaroo or goanna on an open fire does not constitute haute cuisine in anyones book.

The immigrants have certainly improved the national cuisine.

Originally Posted by bangkokpi

Originally Posted by Ningi

lets face it,with out immigrant tradesmen and knowledge, australians would still be a third world country, here in rural queensland with our mass unemployment, the only people genuinely looking for work are immigrants, the average unemployed queenslander under the age of 40 still thinks Manual Labour is a Spaniard

How ridiculous , everyone knows he is Mexican

Indeed. Without the migrants AUS would be full of people on a doll.

Now we have it full of migrants on the dole?
- both statements are wrong as a generalisation but applicable if you calculate the "incubaters" breeding to rort a system designed originally to encourage Australian families to greater effort in populating Australia.

Originally Posted by sabang

Real Australians, of which there are few, are hopeless cooks. Throwing a freshly killed kangaroo or goanna on an open fire does not constitute haute cuisine in anyones book.

The immigrants have certainly improved the national cuisine.

True , but you don't have to do much to improve on the gourmet fare you just mentioned - and then of course we did get our original cooking lessons from the "to & froms" , but we are fast learners and now pick the eyes out of the worlds best.

Originally Posted by blue

[sic]...made Australia ,in the first place .

Yes, exactly. As Australia, as we know it, was {made} an invention. Yet others seem to have already been first.

Originally Posted by Rural Surin

Originally Posted by blue

[sic]...made Australia ,in the first place .

Yes, exactly. As Australia, as we know it, was {made} an invention. Yet others seem to have already been first.

,i never said that , i meant made Australia a 1st, ie FIRST ,world country /economy.

also your use of [sic] is incorrect , do you mean paraphrase ?

and on my visits to Australia i liked the Aboridgenies, to paraphrase Cassius Clay ,
no Aboridgenie ever called me a POM

No white man ever called me a nigger. Then again I'm white.

I never called a black man "nigger" or any other disparaging name but I have been called "whitey" and other names while being chased by drunken aboriginals who objected to the fact I had hired an Islander with a rickshaw in Cairns to show me around the city on my first visit.
They threw rocks and chased us calling out "walk pork"!
I have employed aboriginals and mixed with them but they are tunnel visioned and have never given me any reason to respect them or offer social assimilation - all have a chip on their shoulder and seem more intent on retaliation than assimilation?
Don't shoot your mouth off or offer criticism unless you've lived here and experienced the clash of cultures first hand.

I see a little Cassius word play entirely goes over your head.

I lived in Australia for 26 years actually, and there were many aboriginal kids at my primary school. Most recent immigrants start off in the humble parts of town.

Originally Posted by nedwalk

Originally Posted by Ningi

here in rural queensland

i thought you said you lived out the back of the gold coast?, i thought rural was like a good days drive from the coast, not the hinterland..

Originally Posted by Ningi

the only people genuinely looking for work are immigrants, the average unemployed queenslander under the age of 40

gotta agree with you there, dole bludgers are every where, now i hear they can lodge their forms on line..what a life hey, they don,t even have to get out of bed!

one more thing NINGI, if you find QLD so bad to live in, you can always fuck off to somewhere else, we could do with one less whinger...are you a pommie perchance?

Of course I,m an expat , brought here to train australians , had a pretty good success rate too, I used to live in Ningi sunshine coast which is north of brisbane on the sunshine coast, but now we live north west of toowoomba, I love queensland but the queenslanders are the worlds top bludgers and whingers, we only leave queensland for holidays and the odd lecture tour, the reason I always take the piss out of queenslanders, they cant stand critisism and they are so easy to wind up, luckily for most of them they no longer have to study for a bloodtest

Originally Posted by Thaiguy

Originally Posted by bangkokpi

Originally Posted by Ningi

lets face it,with out immigrant tradesmen and knowledge, australians would still be a third world country, here in rural queensland with our mass unemployment, the only people genuinely looking for work are immigrants, the average unemployed queenslander under the age of 40 still thinks Manual Labour is a Spaniard

How ridiculous , everyone knows he is Mexican

Indeed. Without the migrants AUS would be full of people on a doll.

Now we have it full of migrants on the dole?
- both statements are wrong as a generalisation but applicable if you calculate the "incubaters" breeding to rort a system designed originally to encourage Australian families to greater effort in populating Australia.

I was brought over from europe to train australians, found most of them, unreliable, lazy,experts in sciving,not willing to learn, I could never get used to the unions protecting the use of alcohol and drug at work, it took me the best part of a year to teach workers in brisbane that he weekend does not start wednesday morning and finish tuesday morning, but some of the successes that were willing to learn went onto great things , queensland without immigrant workers would be bankrupt,or example most large fruit farmers bringing in seasonal workers from korea and vietnam paid for by the govt, in areas of high unemployment where no one is prepared to work for less than 20 dollars an hour, and now in the new gasfields and mines they are bringing in more immigrant tradesmen to run things, of course queenslander cannot take take critisism either

Originally Posted by sabang

I see a little Cassius word play entirely goes over your head.

I lived in Australia for 26 years actually, and there were many aboriginal kids at my primary school. Most recent immigrants start off in the humble parts of town.

Had more than a few at my school too - good mate for some time was called "Darky T" - never knew it wasn't a nice name until one day he asked me to call him Graham as he had just found out it wasn't regarded as respectful , he had to explain it to me as I didn't have a clue what it was all about - at that age it was just a name ?
He went on to become a very famous cricketer !