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    Exercising the right as British citizens to protest against wrongful & illegal invasions of sovereign nations? How shocking!

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    It's very simple. if they don't appreciate the climate of peace and security they enjoy in the UK as a consequence of our soldiers giving their lives decade after decade then chuck them out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marmite the Dog View Post
    Exercising the right as British citizens to protest against wrongful & illegal invasions of sovereign nations? How shocking!
    It seems clear that they chose the date and time in order to generate the most offence and anger thus guaranteeing themselves maximum publicity which is, after all, the point of protesting in the first place I suppose.

    Expect we'll see 'em all out again on Sunday...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Moonraker View Post
    It might be cliche, but as soon as we stop these cunts from protesting they have started to win the battle. They are ignorant dumb fucks, we aren't.

    Let's have some equality though. As much as I despise the BNP, EDL and so on, let them have an equal say in the matter when the old bill have gone to lunch.

    They might even all kill each other and we kill two bird with one stone.
    One problem is, civilised rights and freedoms (including the US Constitution, Geneva Conventions, Human Rights Charter etc) historically have made no allowance for threats coming from an insidious, unrelenting, dysfunctional ideology like Islam. They tend to be drafted as guidelines for civilised people to progress, and assume that the interests of the majority will prevail.

    In time, Islam will have to be treated as a special case, subject to exclusion from civilised norms, perhaps with severe restrictions as an early stage on the path to full frontal confrontation and elimination. And naturally of course, we should expect the idiots to pounce on that statement after twisting it to mean we must destroy all Muslims.

    Then of course we have the unseemly though valid argument that once we remove the right to protest, or respond tit for tat in regard to violence, we "become like them." While hate filled apologists tend to use this argument as their intellectual bolthole, they do so without considering that "become like them" defeats their own argument that "they" are no threat. Anyway, this alone could probably inspire a shelf of books, though the last page must concur that in an either/or situation such as Islam or Civilisation, necessary parts of the democratic process should be ruthlessly sacrificed for long enough to protect its future. The alternative is to go down whilst proudly acknowledging we are the civilised fools that have evolved so far so fast that we couldn't cope, which is why we conceded rather than fought the savage.

    I strongly disagree with your closing statement. We are indeed dumb fcuks. What else would you call the most advanced society in the history of the world that meekly submits to the harangue of useful idiots, apologists, Leftists and general no gooders that are ideologically driven to undermine the very society that defends the right to harm them?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Happyman View Post
    I wonder if these Islamic prats have ever stopped to consider that the fact they are in UK is because of the heroic efforts of our Forces to ensure their freedom from their restrictive political systems in their country of origin ?

    Fuckem
    cancel their visas and residence permits and send the buggers back !!
    Will not cost anything - just confiscate their benefit payments for the month before they are ejected !
    Absolutely, even though this would result in unprecedented levels of violence and sabotage. The West must be prepared to go backwards as the only way to move forward, but first must come the acknowledgement that we fcuked up by allowing our leaders to fraudulently lull us into chronic complacency, and then find leaders that are prepared to do whatever is needed to purge Islam from the civilised world.

    A logistical nightmare in many ways, but compulsory against the alternative of capitulation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by blue
    thanks liberals and poofters for letting millions of this scum into Britain
    And presumably teaching you English as well.

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    Our troops gave peace to a troubled time, gave our sons and daughters the chance to live a normal life. I respect the fallen for their acts of bravery, and those you put themselves in harms way to protect my way of life. As a Muslim if you don't like what we did or what we do now then have the grace to leave and live in a place where you feel more at home, keep pushing us as you are doing and you will bring down the thunder of that you can be certain.

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    Quote Originally Posted by keda
    purge Islam from the civilised world.
    purge the fanatics but not the message

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marmite the Dog View Post
    Exercising the right as British citizens to protest against wrongful & illegal invasions of sovereign nations? How shocking!
    They have every right to do that, but why don't they do it with respect?
    They're a pack of disrespectful cunts.
    Mohamed was a murdering paedophile and his followers are damned to hell.
    Including you, marmite the pig.

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    Mohamed a paedophile now you learn something every day.

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    Quote Originally Posted by seamus48 View Post
    I think that we as a country should do everything in our power to provide these people with assistance.

    1. If they wanna lay down their lives for their religion we should help those feckers out right now, no question!

    2. If they wanna live in a muzzie state we should ship them to one TODAY, lock, stock and barrel. If we included every, single member of their UK-based family in the ticket, involved in extremism or not, comp purchase their houses and businesses if applicable, give 'em the money and a hearty pat on the back. Maybe then the others in the community would start to feckin protect their own self-interests by reining these scumbag fecks in! And for those that say this would just make more extremists in the longer run, then yeah, that may be right. Straight back to option 1 above then!

    Freedom comes with responsibility. Live in this country, be part of it, be welcome. Wanna act against it? Then feck right off and take all yer brood with ya! I'm sick to the back teeth of the whole lot of 'em.

    Sorry, have just woken up having had a crap day's sleep and about to go off to work for night shift.
    Here is an adapted - Questionnaire for Muslims seeking U.S. Citizenship (by Dr. Jai Maharaj)

    It is probably too long for the attention span of weak minded Leftists and apologists and other human garbage that already know it all, but this is not issues and therefore this post is unlikely to be deleted on some frivolous pretext by an embarrassed mod that's unable to respond coherently.

    Tuesday, August 17, 2010

    Recommended for use by: US Bureau of Citizenship and Immigration Services

    Questionnaire for Muslims seeking U.S. Citizenship

    Note: Koran verses may not have the identical Surah (chapter) number in different translations of Mohamed's book. There is no standard Koranic numbering system as there is for the Bible. However, all translations include the same verses, and if a passage is not found in one place it exists elsewhere, usually nearby, in the text. Surahs are always numbered exactly the same. Different translations will make use of somewhat different word choice in the English language, but the meaning is always the same or very close to exactly the same.

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    (1) The Constitution of the United States requires equal legal rights for men and women. This means that the testimony of one person whether male or female counts exactly the same as that for any other in a court of law. There are no exceptions to this rule for any American citizen.

    Koran, Surah 2: 282 says, in part and essence: "call in to witness from among your men two witnesses; but if there are not two men, then one man and two women from among those whom you choose to be witnesses..." This is the basis for Shariah law which holds that in all cases of law the testimony of two women is necessary to equal that of one man.

    Do you repudiate the Koranic principle which requires the testimony of two women to equal the testimony of one man in a law court?

    YES
    NO

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    (2) US Law does not tolerate wife beating and regards it as a crime.

    Koran, Surah 4: 34 says: "Men are the maintainers of women because Allah has made some of them to excel others and because they spend out of their property; the good women are therefore obedient, guarding the unseen as Allah has guarded. But as to those women on whose part you fear desertion, admonish them, and leave them alone in the sleeping-places and beat them; then if they obey you, do not seek a way against them; surely Allah is High, Great"

    Do you repudiate any and all teaching in the Koran which approve wife beating or other forms of violence against a wife by her husband?

    YES
    NO

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    (3) Cruel and unusual punishment is illegal by provisions of the US Constitution. This includes such retribution as physical mutilation and injury to the body.

    Koran, Surah 5: 38 "As for the thief, both male and female, cut off their hands. It is the reward of their own deeds, an exemplary punishment from Allah. Allah is Mighty, Wise."

    Surah 5: 33 "The punishment of those who wage war against Allah and His Messenger, and strive with might and main for mischief through the land is: execution, or crucifixion, or the cutting off of hands and feet from opposite sides, or exile from the land:"

    Do you repudiate all verses in the Koran which demand cruel and unusual punishment?

    YES
    NO

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    (4) The age of marriage varies by state, but in all cases requires that a wife should be of child bearing age, that is, she should be post-pubescent, generally 15 or 16 years of age minimum, 17 or 18 in other jurisdictions.

    Koran, Surah 65: 4 "As for your women who have despaired of further menstruating, if you are in doubt, then their waiting period is three months as well as those who have not yet menstruated. As for those who are pregnant, their term shall be the time they deliver their burden. Allah will ease (matters) by His order for whosoever fears Him."

    As a Muslim scholar named Maududi has said in his official interpretation of this verse: "Therefore, making mention of the waiting-period for girls who have not yet menstruated, clearly proves that it is not only permissible to give away the girl at this age but it is permissible for the husband to consummate marriage with her. Now, obviously no Muslim has the right to forbid a thing which the Koran has held as permissible."

    Do you repudiate this verse in the Koran which regards child marriage as approved, which American law regards as a form of child molestation?

    YES
    NO

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    (5) The 13th Amendment to the US Constitution explicitly outlaws slavery in all forms, male or female.

    Koran, Surah 4: 92 "And it does not behoove a believer to kill a believer except by mistake, and whoever kills a believer by mistake, he should free a believing slave, and blood-money should be paid, but he who cannot find a slave should fast for two months successively." As scholars have pointed out, this verse assumes that Muslims will own slaves, or a significant number will, as did Mohamed, who owned slaves and bought and sold them. This is just one verse out of dozens that approve the institution of slavery and present in as an eternal condition of humanity.

    Do you repudiate all verses in the Koran which approve slavery?

    YES
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    (6) Hate speech is objectionable in American culture, and federal law regards such language as legally actionable, deserving punishment. While there are various categories of hate speech, general agreement is that anti-Semitism is a severe such offense.

    Koran, Surah 5: 60 - 65, says in part, speaking specifically of Jews as verse 59 makes clear, "Those whom God has cursed and with whom He has been angry, he has transformed them into apes and pigs, and those who serve the devil."

    This is the source of Muslim demonstrators' signs and chants that Jews are apes and pigs -- the Koran itself. There are still other passages in Mohamed's book which also are anti-Semitic -- as the term is generally used in America to refer to anti-Jewish bigotry.

    Do you repudiate all anti-Semitic hate speech in the Koran, especially verse 60 of Surah 5?

    YES
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    (7) War or any acts of physical violence, or threat of violence, with the intention of forcing or coerce people to convert to a religion is utterly abhorrent to American law and is explicitly outlawed by the First Amendment.

    Koran, Surah 8: 12 "Thy Lord inspired the angels (with the message): "I am with you: give firmness to the Muslims, I will instill terror into the hearts of the unbelievers. Smite them on their necks and cut all their fingers off."

    This is one of 164 jihad verses in Mohamed's book. Of this number approximately 100 are commandments to able-bodied Muslim men to physically fight against non-Muslims.

    The remaining 64 verses deal with inner struggle, etc, and are not the subject here.
    Generations of Muslim authorities leave zero room to doubt that war or other forms of physical violence on behalf of Islam, with the objective being forced conversion of non-Muslims, is commanded and is not an option. In most cases the "cover" rationalization for such aggression is the pretext that these should be defensive campaigns.

    Except that, from the outset, while Mohamed was still alive and a leader in jihad, only one of his approximately 80 military actions was defensive or was claimed to be, because Muslims were offended that other people would not willingly surrender to their property and armies when invaded.

    There is no reasonable doubt that the meaning of the 100 jihad verses in question all promote violence against people of other faiths. The main objective is conversion but also important is terrorizing others so that they fear the wrath of Muslims.

    Do you repudiate all jihad verses in the Koran which command Muslims to fight against non-Muslims with the objective of converting other people to Islam?

    YES
    NO

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    (8) The First Amendment guarantees freedom of religion to all US citizens. No-one may prohibit someone from changing religion, or ceasing to belong to a religion. No-one may prohibit someone, in any appropriate setting, from seeking to convince someone else of the rightness of his or her faith and seeking to win converts. No believers of any faith are exempt from this provision of the First Amendment.

    Koran, Surah 4:88-89 "Then what is the matter with you that you are divided into two parties about the hypocrites? Allah has cast them back (to disbelief )... Do you want to guide him whom Allah has made go astray?... They wish that you reject (Islam), and thus that you all become equal (like any other faith). So, take not... (friends) from them, till they emigrate in the way of Allah (to Mohamed). But if they turn away (from Islam), take hold of them and kill them wherever you find them." One of several verses which deal with what Muslims characterize as apostasy. The penalty for what Americans insist is a God-given right, to free choice in religion, is death in an Islamic context.

    Do you repudiate all apostasy verses in the Koran and uphold the principle of free choice in religion?

    YES
    NO

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    (9) In America, free speech is sacrosanct and, while a people have the right to object to criticisms of their beliefs, and while others must obey libel or slander laws, everyone who so desires is free to make any criticisms of religion he or she wishes to make. This is considered a moral good when one's motivation is making the truth widely known. It does not matter if a truth is popular or unpopular; honesty is the higher virtue by far.

    Koran, Surah 4: 140 "Allah will collect the hypocrites and those who defy faith -and put them in Hell." This is one verse which is foundational to Shariah law penalizing all forms of what Muslims characterize as "blasphemy." Depending on the "offense" and what country such law is enforced in, the punishment may be anything from jail time or banishment, to death.

    What qualifies as blasphemy and subject to the death penalty? A few examples - criticizing or making jokes about Islam, or Mohamed, or the Koran, which is regarded by Muslims as Allah's exact words; asserting that the Koran was written by Mohamed rather than a transcript of Allah's words; criticizing such Muslim practices as saying prayers 5 times a day prostrate on the floor, reporting objective facts that embarrass Muslims, such as the fact that Mohamed married a girl of 6 and had non-vaginal sex with her until she reached the age of nine upon which he consummated the "marriage", or creating an image of Mohamed or portraying him with an actor in a movie or stage play claiming to be a prophet.

    The last item makes all Mormons guilty of blasphemy since all male Mormons are considered prophets by their church and all Mormon women accept this belief. One or more items make Christian missionaries expressing honest opinions about the Koran or Mohamed guilty of the "crime" of blasphemy, and in several Islamic countries are killed. Indeed, considering only the aforementioned types of "blasphemy", each, by American law, is a form of protected speech to which all US citizens are entitled.

    Do you repudiate all anti-blasphemy laws in Shariah, those derived directly from the Koran as well as those derived from Hadith traditions?

    YES
    NO

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    (10) The First Amendment guarantees freedom to worship any deity of choice, or to be an Agnostic or Atheist. You may worship 100 Gods or Goddesses, or just one, or none at all. All US citizens accept this principle and are free to express their opinions if they think other beliefs are wrong.

    Koran 4: 116 "Verily Allah does not forgive setting up partners in worship with Him. But He forgives whom he pleases, sins other than that." To be devoted to a Goddess, in other words, is, in Islam, the unforgivable sin. Also extremely serious is 2: 28, "How do you disbelieve in Allah, seeing that you were dead and he gave you life! Then he will cause you to die..."

    In other words, Goddess worship deserves death according to Islam, and Atheists also deserve death. In some Muslim lands capital punishment for these "offenses" are de jure carried out.

    Almost all Hindus are devotees of one or more Goddesses, so are most Mahayana Buddhists in Japan and elsewhere. Taoists venerate a Goddess, as do Zoroastrians (Anahita) and traditional Pagans such as those in the Baltic states and rural Russia. So do Wiccans and most other neo-Pagans. Islam considers Catholics and the Greek Orthodox as Goddess worshippers for their devotion to Mary, and the Mormons worship the Heavenly Mother as well as the Heavenly Father. Plus there are normative Christian groups, like Assyrian Christians, who adhere formally to usual Church doctrine but who informally venerate the Goddess Ishtar. Altogether, about 2 billion people in the world can be classified as Goddess devotees, closer to 3 billion if you add Catholics and the Orthodox.

    A reasonable estimate is that, including Mormons, about 15 or 20 million Americans are Goddess devotees of one kind or another. And all deserve the full protection of American law as guaranteed by the First Amendment.

    Do you repudiate all passages in the Koran that demand death or other illegal punishment for Atheists and Goddess devotees?

    YES
    NO

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    Notes for reasonable people that are capable of absorbing unpalatable truths:
    There are many morally reprehensible passages in the Koran, all of which contravene American law and the freedoms guaranteed in the Constitution. The above ten examples are sufficient to demonstrate the criminality of Islam, and to argue the point that Islam in any orthodox form should be criminalized in the United States. In other words, Islam is a travesty of most civilized codes of conduct and should be outlawed.

    There may be exceptions for some Sufi schools or some Ahmadiyya groups which have already rejected objectionable parts of the Koran, and for MINOs (Muslims In Name Only), but Islam should otherwise be recognized for what it is, a subversive and criminal religion that functions often overtly in outright defiance of American law and which is based on principles which are totally incompatible with the US Constitution.

    Islam promotes physical violence against non-Muslims, seeks to intimidate others through threats of violence, promotes hate speech, and is increasingly being viewed by many Westerners as an organized mental illness. As is evident from the daily news, this ideology kills people for trivial reasons, threatens citizens of many countries that simply wish to live in peace, and incites outrages against "unbelievers" through hate speech as well as violence.

    Muslims may deny each and every fact about their travesty of a religion presented here, though this leads to two basic rejoinders:

    First, any honest person familiar with the fact that the Koran is really two books in one, the Mecca Surahs and the Medina Surahs, can tell you that most of the "good" teachings in the Koran date to Mohamed's years in Mecca, when he preached tolerance and a form of morality which resembled Judaism or Christianity; in fact, many of Mohamed’s teachings are directly plagiarized from these senior faiths. However, in the Medina years, partly by use of the doctrine of abrogation, which nullified, repudiated and made obsolete over a hundred Mecca verses, what resulted was a religion that some scholars compare with Bolshevism and others regard as an early form of Nazism. The comparison with Nazism seems more accurate given the fact that the Grand Mufti of Jerusalem spent the WWII years in the Third Reich and organized regiments of Bosnian Muslims to fight in the ranks of the SS, and considering the fact that the Muslim Brotherhood, the "parent" of Al Qaeda and other terrorist groups, was funded by the Nazis and was their political inspiration.
    Second, there is a "slight detail" called the doctrine of taqiyya - lying in order to further the interests of Islam. Koranic verses are explicit about this (for example among others, Surah 3: 28 and Surah 16: 106). The gist is that Muslims are free to tell falsehoods about Islam if they think it will protect them or other Muslims or Islam, they are free to misrepresent Islam, to conceal their actual purposes behind a cloak of good works, etc. In other words, Muslims simply cannot be trusted to tell the truth about their religion.

    But the truth is there to be seen, and anyone who so desires can study the Koran and read its collection of criminal precepts anytime it is convenient to do so.

    Not my problem if someone simply can't be bothered to do so, or prefers cock-and-bull stories manufactured by simpletons like Karen Armstrong and purveyed by charlatans like George W Bush or Barack Hussein Obama.

    Islam is a criminal religion and it does not matter if someone who is famous lies about this painful reality. As a criminal religion it has no legitimate place in the United States of America <or for that matter any other civilised nation>.

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    About the Questionnaire:

    No person that responds to any question with a "NO" should be eligible for US citizenship. US Citizens and even natural born citizens that respond with a “NO” should be stripped of their citizenship. For a Muslim to become or remain a citizen all questions should require a "YES" answer.

    Clearly this presents a dilemma for any believing Muslim. He or she cannot deny the perceived "truth" of even one verse in the Koran since all verses, according to the Koran's own words, are the presumed actual words of Allah, and are inviolate and holy. For a Muslim to give even one YES answer, therefore, is to commit apostasy and condemn himself or herself to death by their very own testimony.

    This is the intent of the Questionnaire, to demonstrate how unethical and criminal the core text of Islam actually is, the inherent evil of the ideology, and how antithetical it is to most values which Americans regard as absolutely essential.

    What to do about Muslims with citizenship status is an open question, but a simple solution would be to require all Muslims now resident in the USA to become apostates of Islam. No conversion to another religion would be required, the only necessity being to abandon Islam entirely and swear a legally binding oath of repudiation of the Koran and Mohamed.

    Muslims unwilling to do this should be stripped of their citizenship and immediately deported to their home or origin country, with no exceptions.

    All mosques in the United States should be shuttered and closed. Fair compensation should be paid to property owners and the buildings converted to other uses or torn down.

    This should help to dispose of the Muslim problem in America.

    Billy Rojas
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    Former teacher of Comparative Religion, history and social science. Alice Lloyd College, Phoenix College, Lower Columbia College, City Colleges of Chicago assigned to the US Navy PACE Program to provide college course instruction to military personnel on board the aircraft carrier, USS Enterprise. Also a lecturer at the University of Oregon, Pacifica Forum, 2008 - early 2010.

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    duplicate post

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jools View Post
    These were the ...erm....MODERATE Muslims we hear so much about...right?
    Moderate and radical are subjective terms. For example, apologists and other naive hate filled ingrates regard sweet talking Muslims that do not overtly encourage or support violence as moderate, even if they encourage and support terrorism and other, non-violent forms of Jihad to their Muslim audiences.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Smug Farang Bore View Post
    quote.
    'We want the Government to pull the troops out from these countries and to stop interfering in our affairs.'

    Go back and throw them out IF YOU FEEL SO STRONG but you won't coz no more cushy set up for you and your familie S


    ...then you be free to sort out 'your affairs.'
    That's the smart way to do it. Firmly removing Islam from the civilised equation makes it easier to address our own problems.

    But perhaps your real point is that we're not perfect? Oh yes, wish I was so clever like you!

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    an interesting selection
    however there are other suras that repudiate some of the above

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tickiteboo View Post
    Quote : "This is shocking to read but not suprising though!"

    I quite agree mate . Fucking cowards the lot of 'em . Unfortunatly the country's gone to shit and it's so far down the tubes I don't think anything or anybody can stop it . The lefties should hang their heads in shame . I for one have had enough and will get out in the next 6 months. I feel sorry for the kids in the UK - whats it gonna be like in another 10 years ?
    On the contrary, the lefties hold their head up proudly, having achieved the instability they crave without which they could never muster ground support for their idiocy. All they seek are victims, and if there aren't any they will create them, as long as it undermines civilised values.

    Don't forget, these people are mentally ill suicidal cowards unable to do the civilised world a favour and go it alone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bower View Post
    How many of these scumbags are British born ? where should they be sent ?
    Is it treason ?
    Sadly many of them, i have no answers but ones that ...............well!
    Send them back to their country of origin. Or revoke their citizenship and hand them over to the bleeding hearts at UNHCR. Or as you say, try them for treason but with honest judges to whom a civilisation is more important than an individual abusing the very 'yuman rites' he abhors for others.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HermantheGerman View Post
    Bring the Boys back Home !

    Britain needs to shapen up its economy. The ghettos with its scum will then disappear by itself.
    Best way to make a ghetto of scum disappear, as you so mildly put it, is to delete it.

    Or we could use your preferred method, tolerate the ghettos and focus on improving the economy in order to fuel and create larger and more demanding ghettos.

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    Quote Originally Posted by keda
    There are many morally reprehensible passages in the Koran,
    Yes, and in the Scriptures, and the Torah, blah blah. Cherry picking a few is hardly an intellectually demanding or original exercise, so why they feel the need to make these diatribic ramblings so mind numbingly, godawdully long evades me. Do they think it makes them seem all proper academic like?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Smug Farang Bore View Post
    When you arrive at Heathrow its staffed with Jonny foreigner so you can get the feel of the place and whats to come.

    Flew back to her Majesty's Islamic state of 'GREAT BRITAIN' a week ago..

    Immigration - Indian

    Driver - Pakistani

    Paper shop - Pakistani

    Bank - God Knows but not 'round these parts.'

    Called the airline to move my flight out sooner - Arab

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    Hello mum, ah Allah your English.

    I'm goin to bed.
    About 6 years back at LHR before they organised computers and Brit arrivals just walked through showing their passport, I was singled out by a Paki on the station who held his arm out to stop me as he scrutinised my passport, then proceeded to hold it up at different angles as though it was a forgery. I stood patiently as he fingered the pages, looking up at me suspiciously every few moments, then suddenly lost it, snatched my passport from his hand and yelled behind me as I walked through that if he's so dedicated to preventing illegals from entering the country he should go check his mother's papers.

    Could be just my perception, but the arrivals area suddenly seemed to go quiet. And no I wasn't impeded on my way to baggage.

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    Quote Originally Posted by good2bhappy View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by keda
    purge Islam from the civilised world.
    purge the fanatics but not the message
    Nope, it's the message that needs to be purged, because it is the message that creates the fanatics not the other way around.

    The Koran is hate speech and a travesty to all that the civilised world holds dear. Islam is an institutionalised form of compulsory mental illness.
    Mohamed was a liar, a thief, a murdering misogynist polygamist, a pedophile slave trading bandit. And aside from that he wasn't a very nice bloke.

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    Quote Originally Posted by good2bhappy View Post
    an interesting selection
    however there are other suras that repudiate some of the above
    Such as...?

    Gawd, don't pretend to have a clue and then come back with abrogated Meccan suras. That's what Muslims and their whimpering apologists try as routine, though it does tend to work against ignorant and gullible infidels desperately wishing to believe that Islam is truly a religion of peace.

    But go on then, bring them on!

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    Quote Originally Posted by sabang View Post
    From their Website-

    Unfortunately, the bitter reality of Remembrance Day is that the majority of people (who participate in it) are blissfully unaware of the hidden truths behind this very distasteful event. Put simply, Remembrance Day is a symbol of imperialism and everything that is wrong with democracy and man-made law.
    Sorry you and those who posted are so ignorant. The day is not a symbol of imperialism. The day was supposed to mark the end of massive conflict and war, in what was entirely Europe.

    It actually signalled the end of much of the imperial world.

    Edit: And I can claim a grandfather who was in France on 11/11/1918 fighting a war that had no direct impact on the US.

    Edit 2: Also conveniently forgotten is that the biggest imperialistic government in the middle east and southern europe were the Ottomans.......
    Last edited by sccrhound; 12-11-2010 at 11:05 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by keda
    Mohamed was a liar, a thief, a murdering misogynist polygamist, a pedophile slave trading bandit. And aside from that he wasn't a very nice bloke.
    He had a nice wife though.

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    These protesters claim to be good muslims and yet it would be fair to say that almost every single muslim currently residing in the west has put financial security, free healthcare, free education and the freedom of living in a christian secular society before the worship of Allah and sharia law.
    For these muslims Allah runs way down the list of priorities. Yet they cannot see the hypocracy of their actions. Understandably, they want their cake and to eat it too.
    As for the less radical members of the muslim community , they could be doing a lot more to mend fences than the half hearted condemnations of the radicals they occasionaly make.

    Would deportation to a muslim country be so cruel ? They show little desire to integrate or become useful citizens. Surely they would be happier in the land of their fathers living under sharia law. After all, they keep telling us how wonderful it is.

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