Why do you think they're protesting against your (our) grandparents and their actions in defending our way of life in the 2 World Wars?Quote:
Originally Posted by Sdigit
Surely they're protesting against the invasions of Iraq & Afghanistan?
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Why do you think they're protesting against your (our) grandparents and their actions in defending our way of life in the 2 World Wars?Quote:
Originally Posted by Sdigit
Surely they're protesting against the invasions of Iraq & Afghanistan?
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Originally Posted by Marmite the Dog
True enough :
Asad Ullah, of Muslims Against Crusades, said: 'We are demonstrating because this day is a day of remembrance to remember every single fallen soldier, including those killed in Afghanistan and Iraq.
'We find it disgusting that innocent people, innocent children, have been killed in an illegal and unjust war and we are demonstrating against that.
'We want the Government to pull the troops out from these countries and to stop interfering in our affairs.'
However , from an objective point of view , the axe they're trying to grind is a lot blunter than they want to believe.
When the American backed troops of the Northern Alliance entered Kabul they were seen as liberators rather than invaders since from an ethnic viewpoint many of the extremist Taliban are Pashtuns , primarily from south of the Hinu Kush and still a tribal based community.Most Afghans do not want a return to Taliban rule.
As for Iraq, even now, despite all the suffering there are many Iraqis who were more than glad to see the back of Saddam Hussein and want a democratic government despite the activities of wreckers.
' ...... stop interfering in our affairs ' ....... they say, and yet , a lot of them ( the protesters ) are British passport holders with roots going back to Pakistan rather than Iraq or Afghanistan. It would be interesting to see how much they would enjoy living in either of the two countries on who's behalf they are protesting. They might have sat down for a minute and realised that if it were not for the sacrifice made by a generation of English soldiers, they would not be now living in a country where there is freedom of speach.
At the very least, it would have been in order for the police to get their names and addresses to see if they are claiming unemployment benefit. If so, it should be stopped since they should be actively looking for employment to qualify. Dito for the BNP protesters.
The once proud and great nation started to undergo a progressive and collective castration with the invention of political correctness. A couple of decades later, and it's become as you say a nation of wimps part governed by spineless robbers and part herded by the liberal thought police.Quote:
Originally Posted by mellow
The longer its people demand the right to remain asleep, that much more brutal will be their awakening.
Thinking a passport defines a persons loyalties is an Anglo and French thing. Blood defines it. When will they learn that a passport is just a piece of paper?
You have absolutely no clue about British Empirical history then.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr Gribbs
Because they are protesting on Rememberence Sunday?Quote:
Originally Posted by Marmite the Dog
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Originally Posted by SdigitThat's not as crazy as it sounds Mr artist, a guy I was working with was told by his housing association that he had to take down the Flag of St George which he had put up for St Georges day hanging out side of his window because it offended his Paki neighbours and they had made a complaint.Quote:
Originally Posted by artist
He hung a whole garland of small flags out in response so they sent a rep to talk to him and threaten him with eviction if he didn't comply.
He didn't back down and the matter blew over soon after.
Now can you think of another country anywhere in the world where that situation would have, could have ever occurred, I cant.
THINGS THAT OFFEND MUSLIMS
by Amboy Times
This is a work in progress. I (Amboy) welcome suggestions. Anyone who has more items to add to the list, post them in the comments.
This list is of things that Muslims have protested or rioted or resorted to violence over, and its intent is to illustrate the futility of the enforced collective suicide of the multicultural approach to Islam.
Sharia demands submission not only from Muslims, but from non-Muslims as well. This makes respectful coexistence nearly impossible with Muslims in Infidel lands. The examples below serve as a reminder that submitting to one complaint or another only emboldens Muslims to seek further concessions towards their ultimate goal of establishing Sharia.
The West needs to come to grips with this fact and start standing up for our rights of free speech, free expression and freedom of religion, lest we surrender those rights to a theocratic movement bent on removing our Constitutional freedoms that we hold dear. In this case, our tolerance will lead to intolerance.
Flags
The English Flag being flown in England
St George Pins, worn by Englishmen in England
Austrian flag, which Austrian Muslim soldiers refused to salute
Saudi Flag on a football
Buildings
The World Trade Center
The Pentagon
The Bamiyan Buddhas
The Apple store in Manhattan
The Beslan Memorial: They are angry not at the peaceful Jihadist murderers that 'hijacked' their religion, but against those highlighting a tragedy whose victims 'happened to be' Christians and whose murderers just 'happened to be' Islamic terrorists. Go figure!
Pool halls and coffee shops
Kaaba-Shaped Bar in NYC.
Christians
The Trinity
Pope Benedict XVI
Pope John Paul II
Australian Prime Minister John Howard
Coptic Pope Shenouda III
Robert Spencer
Pamela Geller
The name "Crusaders"
The Cross
Christmas presents
Bibles
Lip sync videos
Craig Winn
Non-Muslim Prayer
Valentine's Day
Christians who accidentally touch the Koran
Street Evangelists
Jews
Israel and its existence
The reality of the Holocaust
Holocaust Day (UK)
Teaching of the Holocaust
A Jew on the temple mount (Intifada II)
blowing a shofar (horn) at the Wailing Wall
Jews that try to make Arabs literate
Jews that save the lives of Palestinian children
Jews that make matza (unleavened bread) using the blood of Muslim children
Hindus/Buddhist's
The Dalai Lama
Buddha image in Swat, Pakistan
Other Buddha images and figures in Islamic countries
Cartoons
The Danish Cartoons
Videos of Danes sitting in an office drawing Mohammed
Cartoons about Uday and Qusay's death
The Buddy Christ
Cambridge University cartoon
Pokemon
Opus
Movies/TV/Theater/Radio
The Passion of the Christ
The Italian Film, 'Il mercante di pietre' (The Stone Merchant)
Disney's Aladdin
Vincent Gogh's "Submission"
Looking for Comedy in the Muslim World (a French play by Voltaire)
Rubber duck hostage video
Ohio Car Ad
24, the series
300, the movie
PBS Documentary "Islam v Islamists" Jihad, the Musical.
Food
Burger King ice cream cones
Jewish cookies
Pork, even when consumed by non-Muslims
Alcohol, even when consumed by non-Muslims
Alcohol, even when carried by non-Muslims
Quebec day-care lunch menu
Hot-Cross Buns
Coca Cola
Easter Eggs
Easter Bunnies
Ham Sandwiches accidentally served to Muslim prisoners
PB&J sandwiches served in jail, where criminals live.
Music
Music in general
A rap CD with Quranic verses
An award winning Spanish song
A party honoring late rock star Freddy Mercury
Mozart
Gospel music in a church van.
Humor/Satire
Disc jockey humour.
Animals
Piggy banks
The Chinese "Year of the Pig"
Toy Pigs
Pig-shaped stress relievers
Piglet in Winnie the Pooh
The Three Little Pigs
Guide dogs
Sniffer dogs
Police dogs
Dogs in general
Jews in general (apes and pigs)
Public Figures
Walid Shoebat
Kamal Saleem
Zachariah Anani
The 3 'ex-terrorists
Daniel Pipes
Ayaan Hirsi-Ali
Wafa Sultan
MP Phil Woolas (UK)
Virgil Goode
Jack Straw
Bloggers
The US Congress
Daniel Greenfeld
Salman Rushdie
Robert Spencer
Women
The passport photo of a 5 year old girl
Women who allow themselves to be raped
The Panty Jihad
Egyptian feminist Nawal al-Saadawi
The clitoris
Hugging a man in public
The breasts of female mannequins
Female dolls
Pin-ups on RAF jets
Unclothed sex
Breast feeding
Nigerian Beauty Contest
Britney
Madonna
Male Gynecologists
The word 'Women'
Women refusing to wear the hijab
Books/Publications and writers
Satanic Verses
Knighthood
Anything by Ibn Warraq
Anything by Taslima Nasrin
Anything by Egyptian feminists
French and German Newspapers
Canadian Flyers
Nobel Prize winning author, Naguib Mahfouz
Harry Potter
Martin Amis
Mark Steyn.
Irshad Manji
Dante
Oriana Fallaci
Art
Tate British Museum
Delta College
Harper College Photo Exhibit
Grooming
Barbers
Eyebrow plucking for men
Hair Gel
Clothing
Western-style trousers
Coloured Underwear
Nike "flame" logo
Italian Soccer Team's Shirts
Iraqi Tennis Players Wearing Shorts
Miscellaneous
Airport security
A Yemini man who didn't wake up for prayers
Mustafa Shag
Prison toilets
Indrek Wichman
Chess
Staring or looking
Polio Vaccine
A moment of silence to commemorate 9/11 in Brussels
Koran-Themed Toilet Seats
Exxon
LAPD
Bluetooth
Witchcraft
The term "War on Terror"
Emergency Relief from the USN
Teddy Bear named Mohammed by Schoolchildren
Sweden
Homosexuals
Wikipedia
Iranian standing next to Jewish champion
Poppies (recently added)
What Muslims (and their hate filled apologists) despise most of all is the truth.
A reasonable civilised person accepts without hesitation that all religions are equal, believes and practises gender equality, conforms to local and host country's laws, and eschews all doctrines, teachings and concepts that relate to global dominion by Islam or universal imposition of Sharia.
No Muslim can accept the above and remain a Muslim, which is why Islam could never contribute to a flourishing civilised society. It is also why liberals proudly lower the bar so that any Muslim who isn't actively or vocally in support of terrorism becomes in their view a moderate...and the programmed pc masses fall for it time and again.
Wake up!
Yes you are perfectly correct that is their true protest, but the way in which they protest with the poppy burning and the slanderous slogans and the day that they choose to protest *is* intended to disrespect their memory and offend us as much as possible and in doing so bring maximum attention to their cause.Quote:
Originally Posted by Marmite the Dog
Rememberence day is almost holy in the UK with tens of millions of people stopping dead in their tracks out of respect for those who died, I can't think of another event in Briton that commands so much respect as rememberance day.
If any non Muslim were to demonstraight in such a way outside a mosque on the last day if Ramadan they would be arrested for inciting racial hatred, that's if the weren't killed by an angry Muslim mob first.
Their end doesn't justify their means, if they feel so passionately about being anti British they should bugger off back to the utopia they are trying to defend, give up the protection of this land and forge a new life for themselves and their families in the wonderful democracies they all ran away from.
The life of a Muslim female is worthless compared to perceived family (and personal) honour.Quote:
Originally Posted by seamus48
But as the hate filled loser apologist line goes, not every Muslim kills their daughters and even non-Muslims have been known to do so, which makes it ok then.
I think this ones a given :mid:Quote:
Originally Posted by keda
Miscellaneous
Airport security
but
WTF?Quote:
Polio Vaccine
I agree with the point you are trying to make, but in regard to Muslims holding passports of civilised nations it is nothing to do with blood unless you associate dysfunction, savagery and backwardness with Nature instead of Nurture. Children are born as carta rasa, or a clean sheet, and then begin to absorb the teachings of their elders.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pol the Pot
In regard to blood, though, many and probably most Arab Muslims are descended from Christians and Jews of the ME and North Africa that their ancestors massacred and converted. Of the pagans in this ongoing 1400 year old genocide, many religions were simply eradicated without trace as Islam expanded.
It is the violent and malignant ideology of Islam, not the blood.
Anybody who makes a statement like that is certainly fuckin stupid. Sorry, but my tolerance of idiots have waned seriously over the years.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr Gribbs
Islam, and ALL 'faiths' and their followers do an excellent job all by themselves to look stupid. No assistance needed. This, unsurprisingly, is because they are all inherently stupid. Period. The 'faiths' and their followers.
But then, idiots seldom know they are idiots. The brainpower to figure out their own stupidity simply ain't there.
In that case, according to you, Muslims would have no cause and would therefore not disrupt and shame this day of respect if the Brits announced that Remembrance will henceforth be to honour and respect all War Dead except those fallen in Iraq and Afghanistan. Be honest, are you a windup merchant or intuitively shallow?Quote:
Originally Posted by Marmite the Dog
Also, should this ridiculous appeasement be adopted to satisfy the rabid demands of Britain's peaceloving Muslims, would you as a fair and reasonable person unreservedly condemn a repeat performance by Muslims next year, or come out with more bollocks?
All this 'Muslims are no threat' reminds me of the famous 'Hitler is no threat' reassurances...
I'm not British, so if the Brits haven't learnt their lesson last time round, it's not my business. Except that the shit won't stay in Britain and Europe, just like last time around....
Pakistans largest Islamist umbrella group, the Muttahida Majlis-e-Amal (MMA), issued a fatwa in January 2007 endorsing the provincial governments efforts to immunize children from polio in the countrys Northwest Frontier Province. But even though health workers carried copies of the ruling with them as they trudged across the province, The Guardian reported in February 2007 that the parents of some 24,000 children had refused to allow the workers to administer polio drops. It turns out that influential antistate clerics had been issuing their own fatwas denouncing the campaign as a Western plot to sterilize Muslims. Although Pakistan only saw 39 cases of polio last year and most children have now been immunized, a similar religiously motivated firestorm against polio drops in Nigeria in 2003 allowed the eradicable disease to spread to 12 new countries in just 18 months.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sdigit
The List: The World's Stupidest Fatwas | Foreign Policy
Update on THINGS THAT OFFEND MUSLIMS - by Amboy Times
Disney employee's uniform
Ref's whistle with the Swiss Cross
World Cup Soccer
The Graves of Biblical Joshua and Caleb
The Eiffel Tower
A statue of Javanese puppetry figure Bima
Breslin Bar and Grill in NY
Rape Victims (for wearing "Satanic skirts")
Saracen's Head Cafe
A Disco called Mecca
The Letter X
Allah tattoo
the Knights of Malta
The Bishop of Rochester
Stepping on Makeshift Hamas and Hezbollah Flags
A picture of Jesus hung on a staffroom wall
A cross on the wall of a ward in a Christian hospital that took in a Muslim in an emergency
A coin with John 3:16 printed on it
Church Bells
Christmas presents
Christians who use the word "Allah" to describe God (note: the litmus tested moderate Imam Rauf, much loved by a particular TD mod that should be hiding his face in shame, tells Indo Christians after they were attacked by peaceloving Indo Muslim mobs that it is indeed legal for them to use the word Allah to describe god because Allah translates to god, but that they shouldn't because it offends Indo Muslims.)
A Rabbi invited to speak at an Islamic University
Israeli Vodka Bottle with a picture of Jerusalem
Paper cups
The Torah scrolls at Hebron
Tennis Star Shahar Peer
The Israeli Taekwondo team
Hindu Temples
"Mohammed Cat"
Emoticons
Cartoon of Mohammed and Aisha nude
Molly Morris (gone into hiding from the peacelovers)
Jihad, the Musical
True Lies the Movie
Michael Savage
Paul Harvey
You Tube
Fitna the Movie
Bruce Almighty
Evan Almighty
Stage Version of the Satanic Verses
"Life of Mohammad" Movie
Bridgitte Bardot
Indian Soap Operas
Music Shops
Chicken Run
Saving Private Ryan, 1977 Movie
Mohammad, Messanger of God, movie
"Crossing Over" movie
Egyptian actor Amr Waked
Fiddler on the Roof
Satellite TV owners
Obsession the movie
Denver disk jockeys Joey Teehan, Dean Myers and Roger Beaty
The Wrestler Movie
Cliff Richards
Lowell Green
TV Documentary Jihad for Love
Cinema and Theater
Actors and Actresses working together
Matrix Reloaded
South Park
"Son of No One" movie.
Israeli Dates
Parking lot sign mislabeled "the Porking Yard"
Doritos and Salad Dressing
Falafel!
Rum flavored ice cream.
Freddy Mercury
Mozart
Gospel music in a church van
A Muslim prayer set to House Music
German Soccer Club Song
Pig shaped playground toys
Lost Dog Poster
The smell of bacon
Mice
Women who allow themselves to be raped
A woman sitting with a man in Starbucks
Makeup
Not wearing socks
Sharing a gym with men
Men and women in the same swimming pool
Sharing a gym with men
Pictures of Women in newspapers
Matalan Billboards
Women using cell phones
Work Uniforms at a Tortilla Factory
Women using go karts
Lipstick and High Heels
Hasina Kahn
Women omitted from an Ikea Catalog
Female Olympians on TV
Women on TV in general
Women leaving the house without permission
Lesbianism and tomboy behavior
The term 'Gender Equality'
Street protests by divorced Women
Gender mixed theaters
Women who are allowed to drive
Seeking a female writer's autograph
Wearing a Bra
Kelly Clarkson
and loads more that offend the most tolerant people in the universe, at:
The Amboy Times: The List of Things That Offend Muslims
As I said, routing the Krauts was a doddle compared to what's needed to defeat Islam; not pacify or reform, but utterly defeat. As I've also said several times, I believe the West does not have the stomach for a religious war, which is amply demonstrated by its absolute refusal to acknowledge that such a thing exists in today's world, and certainly not that it is already in one.Quote:
Originally Posted by FlyFree
Unless and until something radical happens to suitably rattle the complacent snoozers, which is between unlikely and absurd, the cancerous invasion of Islam will ultimately triumph. And more good news, it is already too late for several Western countries to better than postpone the inevitable.
Future generations will shake their head in disbelief.
The polio vaccine thing was also reported from Indonesia.
^^Dead right. We've bred a generation of spineless apologists who have absolutely no concept of the mentality that still rules 90% of the world outside of their academic/theoretical constructs of 'human rights', 'tolerance' and the 'brotherhood of man'.
The gap in knowledge, values and morals have widened to the point where the two 'civilizations' cannot co-exist anymore. The inevitable overrun of the relatively few who have developed too quickly for the vast majority who have basically stood still in intellectual development.
The most interesting development in this century will be to see if those that have evolved their ideas too quickly for the majority on this planet manage to draw a safe laager or get overrun and dragged back to the middle ages - which brings us back to the spineless generation we have bred - the bet would be against their survival. Apart from the fact that they cannot comprehend a real threat as it's not in their experience - they've been protected, pampered and nurtured - they also cannot comprehend the fact that all people do not share their evolved upbringing and morals. They're bringing a declaration of human rights to a gunfight with a primitive, vast majority who basically hate their guts and fear their ideas. They are sitting ducks.
They see shiny buildings and economic development in these places, and they think the minds, values and morals have also developed. A catastrophic mistake.
Absolutely right couldn't have put it better myself and unforntunately I for one believe there's no turning back and that thing's are only going to get worse despite what the politicians would have us believe.Quote:
Originally Posted by FlyFree
At least living in Thailand it's blatently obvious their openly racist and a biggoted race but I accept that 100% not least because I don't have to rub shoulders, or suffer the smell of dirty wailing muslim's everyday let alone hear and read about them everyday. (I can't read Thai)
^ The problem is, it's our (grand)children who will suffer due to our failure to protect their future. And I'm not talking $$$
Bullshit they're protesting about everything and everything that doesn't fit in with their illiterate, uneducated religeous beliefs.Quote:
Originally Posted by Marmite the Dog
Do you really think any of them really give a fuck about what happens to their "muslim brothers" in Iraq or Afghanistan, NO, if they did care they'd fuck and fight the infiddels there.
I wonder how much of these uneducated, illiterate biggoted scum would have lasted if Hitler had won the Second World War? My guess is very few and my second guess is we wouldn't have had the problems with the Middle East either.
I'm not a fan of Hitler but I'd love to see a computer model built to see how world history would / could have changed if the Nazi's had won but of course no modern left wing PC accademic would possibly dare to write such a model.
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Originally Posted by FlyFree
Just fixed a slight error for you. As most people on the street can see what is coming.
Yes but I don't like to mention Indonesia because it upsets KingWilly who thinks god used it as a template for Paradise.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pol the Pot
Probably the best post in this thread.Quote:
Originally Posted by FlyFree
Future generations will conclude that progress cannot be a virtue when it exposes its underbelly, and then goes on to protect those that have declared a clear intent to destroy it. As I said, they will shake their heads in disbelief.