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    US soldiers killed afghan civilians for sport, kept fingers as trophies

    A dozen US soldiers are facing trial accused of being part of a 'kill team' that allegedly killed Afghan civilians in an arbitrary fashion - and they even collected their victims' fingers as trophies of war.

    Five soldiers have been charged with the killing three Afghan men 'for sport'. And seven more are accused of covering up the murders.

    In one of the most serious accusations of war crimes to come out of the Afghan war, the deaths are alleged to have been carried out by members of a Stryker infantry brigade based in Kandahar province, southern Afghanistan.

    Read more: Twelve US soldiers face trial after Afghan civilians killed 'for sport' - whistle-blower originally ignored | Mail Online

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    Sick fuckers.

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    American soldiers did similar things in the 2nd World War. They decapitated Japanese dead and kept their skulls. Some skulls were used as hood ornaments on jeeps.

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    Every wartime army on all sides have their psycho elements. Silver lining in this is that the US military punishes such behavior....


    ...when made public.

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    America has an all volunteer military. They've always had problems attracting quality recruits, but after the Iraq War, the Military really is the employer of last resort, mostly attracting only the bottom dwellers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Agent_Smith
    Every wartime army on all sides have their psycho elements.
    War brings out the worst and best of human nature. In this case the worst.

    Quote Originally Posted by raycarey
    A dozen US soldiers
    94,000 U.S. troops are in Afghanistan. 12 are being tried for committing acts unacceptable by any definition of proper behavior within the military.

    Here we go again. Another thread to "justify" conclusion, the acts of 12 individuals are representative of the behavior of the other 93,988.

    Makes about as much sense as the Muslim hating bunch who have concluded 1.6 billion Muslims are responsible for the 9/11 attacks carried out by 19 psychotic nut cases.
    Last edited by Norton; 11-09-2010 at 02:09 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Butterfly View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by socal
    not near as bad as 19 highjackers that killed 2700 inniocent civilians in new york.
    yes those at least were courageous and died with their victims,

    American soldiers are cowards and need to face the war crime tribunal
    Radicalized, brain washed fanatics are not acting out of courage....they are running on a mental auto-pilot. They are after all going to heaven on impact, where they will be met by 60 virgins. Strong incentive indeed. I think originally they were to be sent to Pattaya, but they just could not come up with the virgin part.

    So we have a dozen or so sick fuckers in a military force of 100,000 plus and that makes American soldiers cowards? What kind of fucked up logic is that. Obviously you have never worked with or even met many American soldiers. I spent 10 years in the British forces...and believe me we had people just as fucked up as any of those guys....maybe worse. There are some military units that need sociopaths to do the dirty jobs....so why is anybody shocked or surprised when they act like sociopaths in a war zone where opportunities abound.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BobR View Post
    America has an all volunteer military. They've always had problems attracting quality recruits, but after the Iraq War, the Military really is the employer of last resort, mostly attracting only the bottom dwellers.
    Having graduated from High School WAS a requisite, that was done away with 7 or 8 years ago. Then there is the concerted effort by conservative factions stirring up the hate and legitimizing of abuse.

    Get a bunch of low esteem, bullies...

    How present day US is different from Germany Ca 1936 is rapidly decreasing. It's just waiting for a leader catalyst and I think she's a-ready a- waiting in the wings .

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    Quote Originally Posted by Norton
    Here we go again. Another thread to "justify" conclusion, the acts of 12 individuals are representative of the behavior of the other 93,988.
    but how many more weren't caught or got away with it ?

    Quote Originally Posted by koman
    There are some military units that need sociopaths to do the dirty jobs....so why is anybody shocked or surprised when they act like sociopaths in a war zone where opportunities abound.
    you raise a valid point and this is why avoiding wars is the best option. When you have lunatics like GW Bush or Blair who think going to war is going to look cool on their resume, their supporters forget what it really means, that is real people dying in the hand of sociopaths power game. All this to accomplish absolutely nothing but accomplishment feelings for the sociopath leaders. Blair can't recognize he made a mistake and would do it all over again if it was to be redone. Bush on the other hand has started to acknowledge that it was indeed a mistake. He is not there yet but he will eventually say it publicly.

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    more details are emerging....

    AT JOINT BASE LEWIS-MCCHORD, WASH. The U.S. soldiers hatched a plan as simple as it was savage: to randomly target and kill an Afghan civilian, and to get away with it.

    For weeks, according to Army charging documents, rogue members of a platoon from the 5th Stryker Combat Brigade, 2nd Infantry Division, floated the idea. Then, one day last winter, a solitary Afghan man approached them in the village of La Mohammed Kalay. The "kill team" activated the plan.

    One soldier created a ruse that they were under attack, tossing a fragmentary grenade on the ground. Then others opened fire.

    According to charging documents, the unprovoked, fatal attack on Jan. 15 was the start of a months-long shooting spree against Afghan civilians that resulted in some of the grisliest allegations against American soldiers since the U.S. invasion in 2001.

    Members of the platoon have been charged with dismembering and photographing corpses, as well as hoarding a skull and other human bones.
    washingtonpost.com

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    There is another difference from Al Qaeda--Al Qaeda's assholes weren't rogues. They were part of the top-down plan.

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    This will be played down of course being the US and pinpointed to a few individuals. Any other country would be labeled as barbaric or satanic by the west!

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    A series of murders from one particular group of scumbags provides only cursory 'evidence', but I'm pretty sure the US army psych people will be alert for any repeat incidents, or an emerging pattern of this sort of thing. Whether however they would be 'hush hush' about it I do not know.

    In the latter part of the Vietnam War you saw a similar pattern emerging- and it was indeed hushed at the time. Fragging Officers & NCO's, widespread drug abuse (These Srtryker murderers were on hashish too), a breakdown of the chain of command, ''incidents" such as My Lai- certainly a total dehumanisation of the 'gooks', as would appear to be the case in Afghanistan. To the anything more than cursory observer of foreign Wars post WW2, it provides confirmation that the War is lost- because you certainly won't hear this from senior Military or devious Politicians. The Soldiers know it is a hopeless cause, and are frustrated and demoralised.

    Too early to say that this is an emerging syndrome based on one set of rogue grunts, but one to keep an eye on.
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    So war is a humanitarian thing? and all of you who have never seen one , know better? What a bunch of keyboard wannanabee cowboys you all are. Go wank off .

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    Quote Originally Posted by mellow
    So war is a humanitarian thing?
    Only if you believe Politicians.

    So deliberately killing uninvolved civilians is an acceptable thing?

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    Quote Originally Posted by sabang
    The Soldiers know it is a hopeless cause, and are frustrated and demoralised.
    "Hopeless", or not, disciplined soldiers wouldn't have reacted as per these dross.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sabang
    Too early to say that this is an emerging syndrome based on one set of rogue grunts, but one to keep an eye on.
    gee, you are a bit slow

    how much more evidence you will need to see to be convinced that this is not an exception, and if a group of military had that idea on their own in that environment, it's more than likely that another group also did. This is not happening by pure chance.

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    Hark at you bunch of lemmings, you know who you are even if it's too embarrassing to admit that you happily follow wherever this scarey piece of garbage leads you, like a string of mules. Can't you see he's chortling at your foolishness each time he blows the whistle to announce the next bandwagon's about to leave...and he knows which of you inbreds will race to get on. Thickos!

    He's winding you up like little rabbits but as long as he baits you in his direction, you fcuked up inbreds are so full of your miserable selves that you can't see beyond the next feeding frenzy. 12 rotten apples from 100k is pretty good by my reckoning, a much better % than the "small minority" of Allah's Finest - the OP's buddies btw - who get rewarded not disciplined for killing women and children. Yeah go on, say it, a righteous zero would be better than 12...says more about you than it does of those dirty dozen but you lot are too consumed by your own pathetic hatred to figure that out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Agent_Smith View Post
    Every wartime army on all sides have their psycho elements. Silver lining in this is that the US military punishes such behavior....


    ...when made public.
    As the social engineers are extremely decent at what they do. Americans have a rich history of wartime barbaric and atrocious behaviour, whether they have direct involvement or not. History and current affairs is conveniently misconscrewed and misdirected. We wouldn't want the shining light on the hill to be considered within the same groups they they so calculatingly demonize...

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    Quote Originally Posted by keda
    this scarey piece of garbage leads you,
    Quote Originally Posted by keda
    he's chortling at your foolishness each time he blows the whistle
    Quote Originally Posted by keda
    he knows which of you inbreds will race to get on
    Quote Originally Posted by keda
    He's winding you up like little rabbits
    Ummm, yeh right K. Who might He be?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rural Surin
    Americans have a rich history of wartime barbaric and atrocious behaviour,
    let's not forget the Native American, the American white man, from European descend incidentally, had another genocide

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    Quote Originally Posted by superman View Post
    American soldiers did similar things in the 2nd World War. They decapitated Japanese dead and kept their skulls. Some skulls were used as hood ornaments on jeeps.

    Quite likely, the Merkans had heard of the numerous (and well documented) Japanese atrocities. A human being can only take so much. Japanese are unparalleled for torture and sheer evil in wartime. Their peacetime prisons are no houseparty either. Evil fokkers. Too bad the Merkans only had two atomic bombs for the Japs. Gen. Curtis LeMay is THE hero of the second world war.
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    Quote Originally Posted by keda View Post
    Hark at you bunch of lemmings, you know who you are even if it's too embarrassing to admit that you happily follow wherever this scarey piece of garbage leads you, like a string of mules. Can't you see he's chortling at your foolishness each time he blows the whistle to announce the next bandwagon's about to leave...and he knows which of you inbreds will race to get on. Thickos!
    Don't worry- Ray isn't convinced the soldiers are guilty- if you actually felt that at this point, he would consider you a complete fool as he's principled and you're not- here are a couple of Ray's posts from the Jordan van der Sloot thread where an obviously guilty man wasn't given the benefit of the doubt, bringing out Scarey's anger and condemnation- I guess his opinion is more based on his agenda, otherwise why would he be reporting only incriminating snippets without commentary?:

    Quote Originally Posted by raycarey View Post

    you guys seem pretty confident, so i assume you have some evidence. when will you be getting in touch with the prosecutor's office?

    i have no idea if this guy is guilty or not....but i do know that the only reason anyone cares about him is because foxnews made a big deal out of a blonde woman being killed.

    Quote Originally Posted by raycarey View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by The Muffinman
    the guy's as guilty as they come.
    if you say so.

    Quote Originally Posted by raycarey View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by panama hat
    I'm not saying that he isn't guilty . . . I wouldn't know either way
    that's because you're able to think for yourself.

    on the other hand, one poster has advocated for him to be tortured....and another brought histrionics to new heights (depths?) by posting that van der sloot wants to 'eat your heart'.

    to these posters (and others who can't keep their powder dry), i would suggest that they take a deep breath and wait for the judicial system to run its course.
    There he goes. One of God's own prototypes. A high-powered mutant of some kind never even considered for mass production. Too weird to live, and too rare to die.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mellow View Post
    bunch of keyboard wannanabee cowboys you all are. Go wank off .
    Ray Ray is the commander of the wannabees

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    Hehe- Ray had to red me- guess I touched a nerve- don't worry, Ray, I sent you a green in return- he called me a pussy- that's like being called 'shorty' by a midget.

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