Thread: US soldiers killed afghan civilians for sport, kept fingers as trophies

^ Brain-washed like most of your brethren, then. Git.

What 'brethren" am I of ? What's a "Git" ? Is it like a Gik, but dirtier ?

Originally Posted by superman

Correct. As individuals I judge as I find. As for "America", as a whole, I dislike their over all view to all that's non America. Why the sniping insults ? We all have a right to an opinion, whatever your nationality.

Your post wasn't clear I think what you meant to have said was..." I dislike American World Policy / Interference" and I think you would have many, many people agree with you including myself.

However, it's a fact of life that a stance has to be taken against "cave dwelling fanatics" that would destroy any culture and way of life without any hesitation that doesn't match their ideals and goals.

And don't think for one second that if one of these religeous terrorist groups got hold of a dirty / chemical bomb they would'nt use it, they would.

I don't say that all muslims are violent or that all muslims are bad, buy I do refer to the fanatical murdering scum as "ragheads" because they deserve no respect and if that's racism the so beit!

^ Hear, hear!
supedupman, it appears you are of a nation of like-minded folks and were thus raised to hate "America", but only hate the American soldiers you supposedly served with. Part of the NATO forces; obviously not a Canuck if you don't know what git means... google it.

fanatical murdering scum as "ragheads"

So you call the murdering Afghan scums "ragheads"? What would you call the extremist Arabs then?

Originally Posted by keda

The West is held to impossibly high standards, whilst savages are excused whatever depravities they come up with since that's about what's expected of them.

Soldiers not killing and mutilating civilians is an impossibly high standard? You set the bar pretty low there.

Are you also implying that liberal types are defending terrorist atrocities as well? That just sounds like more Jet style phony propaganda to me, unless you can provide a credible link.

Originally Posted by Agent_Smith

Originally Posted by keda

The West is held to impossibly high standards, whilst savages are excused whatever depravities they come up with since that's about what's expected of them.

Soldiers not killing and mutilating civilians is an impossibly high standard? You set the bar pretty low there.

Are you also implying that liberal types are defending terrorist atrocities as well? That just sounds like more Jet style phony propaganda to me, unless you can provide a credible link.

Sure, you can choose your example to fit whatever point you are trying to make. Try reading in context for a change; I promise it won't hurt, too much.

Originally Posted by keda

Try reading in context for a change

I actually picked the sanest part of your post, and my point was mild by comparison to what your entire post was arguing.

So tell me what did I misunderstand about the point you were making?

It may have slipped your mind that said soldiers and others risk their lives to protect civilians, were not deployed to 'kill and mutilate' civilians, and are routinely arrested and prosecuted when they do commit acts that are considered illegal.

Otoh, the savages I referred to specifically target civilians, and do so in the name of a dysfunctional bloodthirsty god.

If I were a helpless civilian in a battle zone I'd feel a lot safer under a US flag. What about you?

So much for your contextual interpretation of bars.

Originally Posted by keda

Originally Posted by Agent_Smith

Originally Posted by keda

The West is held to impossibly high standards, whilst savages are excused whatever depravities they come up with since that's about what's expected of them.

Soldiers not killing and mutilating civilians is an impossibly high standard? You set the bar pretty low there.

Are you also implying that liberal types are defending terrorist atrocities as well? That just sounds like more Jet style phony propaganda to me, unless you can provide a credible link.

Sure, you can choose your example to fit whatever point you are trying to make. Try reading in context for a change; I promise it won't hurt, too much.

No one is excusing the murders. What we are doing is not mixing up the people who do this with the people who don't. Yes they are Muslim but it isn't the religion, but the twisting to suit the needs of political extremists.

Happens everywhere but this latest in -car nation of fascism and extremists are fascist.

A new crusade is wrong, it makes it worse and drives moderates away from the middle and toward the fringe elements.


Build, maintian schools and keep the other side extremist out of the textbook a la Texas rewrites erasing entire histories.

Originally Posted by keda

It may have slipped your mind that said soldiers and others risk their lives to protect civilians, were not deployed to 'kill and mutilate' civilians, and are routinely arrested and prosecuted when they do commit acts that are considered illegal.

Of course, but I don't understand why you would call that an impossibly high standard? If you weren't referring to the OP then what?

Originally Posted by keda

Otoh, the savages I referred to specifically target civilians, and do so in the name of a dysfunctional bloodthirsty god.

No one is denying that, but you implied that 'liberals' were some how excusing their behavior in favor of overly persecuting our own military. I don't see this as the case.

Originally Posted by keda

If I were a helpless civilian in a battle zone I'd feel a lot safer under a US flag. What about you?

It depends. If I were 'gook' in a village or a 'raghead' driving a car I might think twice about my occupier's intentions--there have been incidents you know.

Originally Posted by keda

So much for your contextual interpretation of bars.

Is this a cipher?

Unfortunately, there are many parts of Afghanistan where the locals do feel more safe under the Taliban than the occupying forces and (worse) Karzai's thugs. To a considerable extent, they are looked on as the lesser of two evils.

How can you compare these twelve psychos with the mass murderers of 9/11?

But psychos they are. They're the kind who tortured little animals when they were young and they're returning to the US with their twisted minds.

Hope they bite the bullet. Fucking, undisciplined sickos. And before being shot they should be flogged.

we know those who join the military are usually psycho killers in waiting, a bit like cops, it's no incident they choose that path of violence

Originally Posted by Butterfly

we know those who join the military are usually psycho killers in waiting, a bit like cops, it's no incident they choose that path of violence

Oh, boo-hoo. Human nature is soooo awful. Successful countries just have to ensure that their psychos are better at violence than the cnuts we're trying to steal something from, is all.

^ The Socialists on board hate the military coz they could never take the discipline. They would rather see folks follow their brain-washed members (the unemployed, the welfare takers, the psycho environmentalists and the union thugs) and go protest in the streets, hurling bottles, etc, at police, blowing up cars, smashing windows, beating civilian bystanders, keeping people from going to work so they can support their families and just acting like the crybabies Socialists are.

Originally Posted by Butterfly

we know those who join the military are usually psycho killers in waiting, a bit like cops, it's no incident they choose that path of violence

Not many psycho killers in your part of the world then, eh?

Just a wee fact that may have slipped your sieve-like mind, it is those 'psycho killers' that have protected every nation worth protecting since the Dawn of Man, against other 'psycho killers'.

Starting to make any sense, or should we abolish the military because buttfrier thinks that's the liberal thing to do?

Originally Posted by Jet Gorgon

They would rather see folks follow their brain-washed members (the unemployed, the welfare takers, the psycho environmentalists and the union thugs) and go protest in the streets, hurling bottles, etc, at police, blowing up cars, smashing windows, beating civilian bystanders, keeping people from going to work so they can support their families and just acting like the crybabies Socialists are.

You know you're living in a glass house, right Jet? Here is your statement with 'Neo-Cons' replacing 'Socialist'.

"They would rather see folks follow their brain-washed members (the uneducated, the corporate welfare takers, the psycho land rapists and the corporate tax cheaters) and go pay off politicians, hurling money, etc, at those in power, blowing up foreign countries, smashing civil rights, beating down workers, keeping people from access to affordable health care so they can support their families and just acting like the greedy pigs that Neo-Cons are."

See how ridiculous that sounds? Well, that's exactly what your nonsense looks like, too. A whole lot of generalized hate propaganda that doesn't reflect reality.

Norton hits the nail on the head. All too often, the actions of a hand full of low-life morons is assumed to be representative of the group. Unlike some other countries, they are being prosecuted ... that is representative of the group which makes me unashamed to be called an American citizen.

Originally Posted by Bill Childress

they are being prosecuted

hardly, some get away with lack of evidence or simply a very light sentence

Originally Posted by Butterfly

we know those who join the military are usually psycho killers in waiting, a bit like cops, it's no incident they choose that path of violence

No "we" don't know, you think you know.

Anyway...it's a living!

Originally Posted by mordred

There is nothing wrong with being a Socialist. Being socially conscious or compassionate is part of our nature because we are social creatures.

I agree and feeling compassionate is an excellent human trait.

Originally Posted by mordred

Unfortunately, greed is another part of our nature and that is why Capitalism works so well for those who are willing to step on others in the states.

Not just the States, everywhere in the "free market forces world" of today's dog eat dog and I'm afraid it a case of the weak will perish!

Originally Posted by Jet Gorgon

^ The Socialists on board hate the military coz they could never take the discipline. T...

Just this bit.

Are the 12 all socialists? Because their behaviour points to a big and shocking lack of discipline (not to speak of supervision).

Originally Posted by sabang

In the latter part of the Vietnam War

Tiger Force was 1967, hardly the latter stages.....