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    Crew on a Qantas plane say they have made contact with a solo sailor who is in trouble in the southern Indian Ocean.


    http://www.xxx.xxx.xx/news/stories/2010/06/11/2925046.htm

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    Quote Originally Posted by DaffyDuck
    where we encourage crazy achievements
    Yeah....like someone seeking to get into the guiness book of records for never not paying for sex their whole life.

    Quote Originally Posted by DaffyDuck
    can you support your allegations?
    Come on Digit.....Daffney needs allegation proof...seriously, he needs facts and figures to believe anything...thats what geeks do best.

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    It was just on the news. She is said to be in fine health and the boat is upright.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ratchaburi View Post
    Crew on a Qantas plane say they have made contact with a solo sailor who is in trouble in the southern Indian Ocean.


    http://www.xxx.xxx.xx/news/stories/2...11/2925046.htm

    Excellent....she is alive so now for the second bit.

    She will have an even better book to write and i know which one i would read....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Number 42
    It was just on the news. She is said to be in fine health and the boat is upright.
    Good stuff

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    Quote Originally Posted by Number 42 View Post
    It was just on the news. She is said to be in fine health and the boat is upright.
    Great news!

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    Quote Originally Posted by robuzo
    Great news!
    that is good news.

    and if her parent's had any concern for her well being they would force her to abandon this quest until she is an adult.

    you know, once she's legally allowed to drive a car without an adult in the car.

    or vote in an election.

    or buy an alcoholic beverage.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nawty View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Sdigit
    You're missing my point
    what point ?? you are just guessing at made up crap to suit your made up theory.

    What if...what if she jumped in Dads boat and stole it and set sail all by herself ?? Daddy did not want her to go.....he even stashed the sail, she sewed all her knickers together and made a new one ?
    The point you are missing started with my response to ray Carey's post saying that her parents should be bought up on homicide charges. My point being If the parents were letting an exceptional young girl undertake a perilous journey or if they were bolstering a youg girls confidence beyond her capabilities.
    Yes I am theorising and questioning the motives of her parents in letting her undertake such a perilous journey. I make no apology for questioning what is so obviously a foolhardy life threatening journey for a grown man let alone a girl of sixteen.






    It's great news that she is alive and I'm very happy for that
    It wasn't me!

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    I think i have to agree with Sdigit here. She is safe, so it ends well.
    As a father of 4 i may consider my 16 year old child to undertake such an adventure but if i could finance such an expensive venture then i would have also financed a escort boat.

    Many parents risk the emotional saftey as well as the physical well being of their children in order to feed their foolish pride.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DaffyDuck View Post
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    What I'm concerned with is this. Is the girls motivation derived from a false sense of
    confidence instilled in her by her glory hunting ego maniacal paren
    WHERE. DO. YOU. GET. THIS. IMPRESSION?

    I note you are unable to substantiate this rather serious accusation and allegation - how did you arrive at it?

    This girl is from a culture and country where we encourage crazy achievements. besides, her brother did it the year prior, and the other girl just recent completed the same, so this isn't some crazy first time stunt.

    There are parents out there that encourage their childrens' dreams and desire to pursue a dream, an achievement, or just a crazy adventure. I'm glad there are.

    Sometimes things can go wrong. They also can if you raise your daughter to lead the more safe life of being barefoot, pregnant, and a good wife (or whatever your version of safe is).

    Again, can you support your allegations?
    I'm not making any allegations nor have I meant to imply any, I am theorising the reasons behind her parents decision to allow a girl of sixteen to undertake this voyage, a voyage that would challenge a grown adult man to the very limits of his physical and mental abilities.

    It reminds me of those mothers in America who drag their young daughters around the country to beauty pageants to gain a little ego for them selves to gain their own sense of worth.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bower View Post
    I think i have to agree with Sdigit here. She is safe, so it ends well.
    As a father of 4 i may consider my 16 year old child to undertake such an adventure but if i could finance such an expensive venture then i would have also financed a escort boat.

    Many parents risk the emotional saftey as well as the physical well being of their children in order to feed their foolish pride.
    Thankyou

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    I'm sure if these exploits continue you will see the European and American nanny states passing silly laws to stop it. Government always seems to think it knows best and people cannot be allowed to make their own decisions, even if they are adults.

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    spotted , dis-masted , 40hrs till assistance arrives on the scene .

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    Teenage adventurer Abby Sunderland was last heard from about 6am Pacific time (1300 GMT, 9pm Singapore time) on Thursday, when she broke off a satellite phone call as her yacht Wild Eyes was pounded by huge waves in the remote southern Indian Ocean.
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    CANBERRA - A 16-YEAR-OLD Californian girl attempting to sail solo around the world is safe and well, her parents said, after a massive search and rescue was launched in the Indian Ocean after she triggered distress signals.

    Teenage adventurer Abby Sunderland was last heard from about 6am Pacific time (1300 GMT, 9pm Singapore time) on Thursday, when she broke off a satellite phone call as her yacht Wild Eyes was pounded by huge waves in the remote southern Indian Ocean.

    'The plane arrived on the scene moments ago. Wild Eyes is upright but her rigging is down. The weather conditions are abating. Radio communication was made and Abby reports that she is fine!' her parents posted on her blog.

    'We don't know much else right now. The French fishing vessel that was diverted to her location will be there in a little over 24 hours. Where they will take her or how long it will take we don?t know,' they said.

    The search for Sunderland involved Australia, U.S. and French rescue authorities sending ships and a commercial airliner to an area about 2,000 miles (3,219 km) south-east of Madagascar and 2,000 miles south-west of Australia.

    Sunderland's father, Laurence, earlier lost contact with his daughter during a satellite phone call and believed her boat may have rolled in treacherous conditions.

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    and the wisdom of sending a 16yr old solo into the Southern Ocean in winter is non existent .

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    Quote Originally Posted by zygote1 View Post
    If people wish to undertake this type of activity for personal glory and/or the potential to earn cash from endorsements, that's their decision. However, the world should not be expected to waste resources on searching for a single pleasure boat that has willingly accepted the inherent risks of a solo voyage.

    Call me nasty, but where does it end? It costs thousands of dollars/euros to go off looking for these idiots. It diverts resources away from more important activities like actually rescuing other vessels in distress.
    you are nasty, not your child.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mid View Post
    and the wisdom of sending a 16yr old solo into the Southern Ocean in winter is non existent .
    Agree

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    She probably left at a certain date to be able to return before a certain date to finish in the youngest person catergory.

    What about that young kid that climbed Everest recently.....nobody whining about him....but oh, he made it successfully like so he is a hero.

    Its best if guys like you and Daffney stay at home and make sure you have those shiny reflector things on the back of all your shoes.
    I like poisoning my neighbours dogs till they die cos I'm a cnut

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nawty
    What about that young kid that climbed Everest recently
    that was also incredibly negligent. that kid was only 13, wasn't he?

    but it's worth noting that his parents didn't send him off alone. i believe his father was with him....and undoubtedly a team of sherpas carrying his gear.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nawty View Post
    She probably left at a certain date to be able to return before a certain date to finish in the youngest person catergory.
    That in no way makes it a responsible thing to do, if anything quite the reverse.

    What about that young kid that climbed Everest recently.....nobody whining about him....but oh, he made it successfully like so he is a hero.
    I don't remember a thread about him but I'd happily give my opinion on that too if you start it, I might even theorise too

    Its best if guys like you and Daffney stay at home and make sure you have those shiny reflector things on the back of all your shoes.
    Can I wear one of those reflective chest bands too? they're all the rage around here, all the cool kids have one

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rascal View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by zygote1 View Post
    If people wish to undertake this type of activity for personal glory and/or the potential to earn cash from endorsements, that's their decision. However, the world should not be expected to waste resources on searching for a single pleasure boat that has willingly accepted the inherent risks of a solo voyage.

    Call me nasty, but where does it end? It costs thousands of dollars/euros to go off looking for these idiots. It diverts resources away from more important activities like actually rescuing other vessels in distress.
    you are nasty, not your child.
    He's not completely wrong. It's one thing when misfortune hits unexpectedly, but when someone deliberately takes risks and puts themselves in harms way to the degree involved here, they should at least have to pay for the cost of their own rescue.

    Of course with that said, such a policy would open the door to government and more and more unreasonable requests for reimbursement.

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    Exactly...it is what any country with any decency should do and be obliged to do.

    We had to arrange a helicopter rescue from a gorge system once...the fuckers wanted to charge me for it...I told them flock off and they did.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zygote1 View Post
    If people wish to undertake this type of activity for personal glory and/or the potential to earn cash from endorsements, that's their decision. However, the world should not be expected to waste resources on searching for a single pleasure boat that has willingly accepted the inherent risks of a solo voyage.

    Call me nasty, but where does it end? It costs thousands of dollars/euros to go off looking for these idiots. It diverts resources away from more important activities like actually rescuing other vessels in distress.
    Mr.Gote:

    It is not surprising that your post engendered so many harsh responses. You picked the were "worst" victim to comment about. If it had been and older male, only 40% would have called you callus. If you had said it about a 16 YO male, probably 60% would have called you callus. But you are talking about a 16 YO FEMALE .. you will have 95% of western posters calling you viscous and demented. Westerns will probably NEVER to be able to totally shake off the "Sir Galahad" syndrome. It is understandable, as that is the way were were raised. But still, it has to be acknowledged.

    But still, you have an excellent point about society having to foot the bill for the oversight and safety of an endeavor that is not undertaken for social benefit or the greater good, but personal gain or glory. If she had been successful in her quest, it would not have been a "great achievement" for science or mankind, it would have been great for her and/or her sponsors. The onus for any rescue should lie with her and her sponsors.

    I sure hope that "nanny states" don't move to outlaw such undertakings, but it would be fully understandable if laws were enacted to require that such missions be insured or bonded to cover expenses of rescue missions, etc.

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    I had tp call out the RNLI in the Solent one afternoon, small matter of the yacht being on fire.
    All ok in the end although the yacht did sink.
    I payed their fuel, 2000 quid, and bought them a case of Chivas.

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