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    Adopted Russian boy sent home from the US - no longer wanted.

    Words fail me.

    Unwanted Adopted Boy Sent Back To Russia - Yahoo! News UK

    A seven-year-old Russian boy who was adopted by an American woman has been sent home on his own with a note saying he was no longer wanted. Young Artyom Savelyev arrived at Moscow airport with the typed note from his adoptive mother which said he was being abandoned after only six months in her care.
    Torry-Ann Hansen had admitted to having made a mistake and suggested the boy should be re-housed.
    "I no longer wish to parent this child," the unmarried 27-year-old nurse from Tennessee wrote, requesting his adoption be annulled.
    She accused the boy's Siberian orphanage of misleading her about Artyom's behavioural problems.
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    A seven-year-old Russian boy who was adopted by an American woman has been sent home on his own with a note saying he was no longer wanted. S


    Row over adopted boy sent back to Russia

    Young Artyom Savelyev arrived at Moscow airport with the typed note from his adoptive mother which said he was being abandoned after only six months in her care.

    Torry-Ann Hansen had admitted to having made a mistake and suggested the boy should be re-housed.

    "I no longer wish to parent this child," the unmarried 27-year-old nurse from Tennessee wrote, requesting his adoption be annulled.

    She accused the boy's Siberian orphanage of misleading her about Artyom's behavioural problems.

    Hansen had placed sweets, biscuits and colouring pens in the child's rucksack before checking him onto the 10-hour flight as an unaccompanied minor, reportedly telling him he was going on an "excursion" to Moscow.

    Russia media has reacted with horror to the case and foreign minister Sergei Lavrov called for all adoptions of the country's children by US citizens to be frozen.

    He said the suspension must be upheld until Russia and the US conclude an agreement on terms "specifying responsibilities" by the host family.

    Artyom is an only-child, whose only known relative - his birth mother - was relieved of her motherhood rights in 2008.

    He was picked up at the airport on Thursday by a Russian man who took him to the city's education ministry, where the youngster was left.

    The man told officials he had been offered $200 (approximately £130) over the internet by Hansen to perform the service.

    Artyom has since been taken to hospital, where an examination revealed no signs of violent treatment.

    But he reportedly told officials he was sometimes "dragged by his hair" by Hansen.

    The boy will be kept in for a week before being transferred to an orphanage, either at the foreign ministry or in his home town in the far eastern Primoriye region.

    The regional court had sanctioned his adoption in autumn 2009, a year after he was separated from his birth mother.

    Coincidentally, the story of his abandonment came on a day American-Russian relations were strengthened in Prague.

    US President Barack Obama and Russian leader Dmitry Medvedev put their signatures on a historic nuclear arms reduction treaty
    Well, luckily I didn't have any tortoises on me at the time...

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    What's wrong with these people, she'll probably see a cute looking puppy next!

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    Quote Originally Posted by jizzybloke
    What's wrong with these people, she'll probably see a cute looking puppy next!
    Pretty much my feeling. Jeeze, I hated these twats when I was running HRD. How can they do this to humans? And how on earth do they get approved for adoption????

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    One the one hand, it's tragic.

    On the other hand, this woman is very clearly not fit to be a mother. Hard to know this in advance, prospective adoptive parents are screened but a few crazies will always slip through.

    Good starting point for a global adoption blacklist, perhaps... and I hope the media attention will find the poor little boy better adoptive parents.

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    It is terrible that a seven year old child is having to go through this. It isn't the first time a troubled child has been adopted, though. There have been articles in the US press for years about children adopted from Russian orphanages having severe psychological problems and threatening the safety of their new families. USA and Russia need to have a better agreement on what to do when this kind of problem arises.

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    Is if the Americans love their children too

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    Here I have the plot for the next Holywood blockbuster In 20 years time this little fellow is going to blow up New York ....

    How the staff of the airline can accept this kid with this kind of note without alerting the authority ? What the name of this airline ? I'll make sure to never flight with them.

    And what about the US immigration ?

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    The article was silent about what type of behavioral problems the child has and what he had done while in this woman's care. Nothing could excuse what she did, but it would have been interesting to read both sides of the story.

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    Its about time that Russia looked after its own children.

    There are enough children needing adoption or fostering in the US

    No need to send this tiny vunerable child across the world, hardly surprising the child had behavioral problems if on arrival it couldn't speak the language.

    As for the woman...I want one........oh no perhaps not such a good idea.....i will send it back and forget about it....... (it) not him or her!


    I speak as the father of a boy we adopted when he was 8, he is now 38 and happily married with 3 children.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nikster
    On the other hand, this woman is very clearly not fit to be a mother.
    Quote Originally Posted by misskit
    It is terrible that a seven year old child is having to go through this. It isn't the first time a troubled child has been adopted, though
    Quote Originally Posted by BobR
    The article was silent about what type of behavioral problems the child has and what he had done while in this woman's care. Nothing could excuse what she did, but it would have been interesting to read both sides of the story.
    Quote Originally Posted by Bower
    No need to send this tiny vunerable child across the world, hardly surprising the child had behavioral problems if on arrival it couldn't speak the language. As for the woman...I want one........oh no perhaps not such a good idea.....i will send it back and forget about it....... (it) not him or her!
    Surely the woman could have foreseen that there might have been behavioral or even developmental problems and taken that into account before deciding to adopt. Adoption is a hugely emotional time for both parent(s) and child. Add to that a new culture, different food, a new language - everything strange. Any kid would act up!

    Sounds like she didn't think it through. I'm the last person to say that adoptive parents should be couples, but in her case, I think the support of a partner may have helped. Also, she's fairly young to undertake something like that alone.

    Can't imagine why she was actually approved for adoption. Poor kid. Trauma upon trauma & rejected to boot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bower
    There are enough children needing adoption or fostering in the US
    Exactly, my first thought when readin the title of the news. But I guess it's more "exotic" for some people to adopt a child in a foreign country than take care of one living just a few blocks away from the road.

    People are mad.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wallalai
    But I guess it's more "exotic" for some people to adopt a child in a foreign country
    I think celebs like Angelina Jolie & Madonna are more than slightly to blame for that - but you'd think the adoption agencies would be on the lookout for celeb wannabes.

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    ^ You're right, it's what my post is pointing to. But ordinary people like to behave like stars.

    But there is all the other Human Rights activists, lefties, socialists, etc too, who like to save a life in Africa but don't care about the poor kid right behind them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wallalai
    But there is all the other Human Rights activists, lefties, socialists, etc too, who like to save a life in Africa but don't care about the poor kid right behind them. __________________
    Couldn't agree more. Didn't someone once say "Charity begins at home"? Start in your own backyard & move outwards

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    I brought my Thai wife and her 3 children to the States 18 months ago, primarily for the educational and career benefits that the kids would receive here. Financially and emotionally, it hasn't been easy for any of us. I've never second guessed the decision and would never walk away from my obligations as a step father. They speak decent english and do fairly well in school. I can count down the days (around 5 years), when the youngest graduates from High school and I can take a breather from being a parent.

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    ^ Good for you. Welcome to TD.

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    Quote Originally Posted by November Rain
    Can't imagine why she was actually approved for adoption. Poor kid. Trauma upon trauma & rejected to boot.
    My feelings exactly.

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    Just a thought, perhaps the popularity of adopting foreign children lies in a less rigorous screening process than that which they would face at home. The woman may have tried to adopt in the US and was deemed unsuitable (rightly so). Sad state of affairs at any rate.

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    the kid is without doubt a maniac, and the best for her and the society of US is to return the nut case.
    My impression from most treads are the you guys are sick and tired of getting your home countries filled to the brim with low life, why this sudden mental pussyness.
    Hes only a puppet a very short time, all after that just a threat and a menice.
    Who needs this shit !

    She also prop get tricked by russian aut. not beeing informed about the defects of the child. You want pure evil in your home or neighbour hood.
    People adopt because they want to see some happy ending. Shes brave enough to cut her losses.
    And for those of us living in Pattis we daily see how "normal" russians are.
    Imagine the freaky ones!!!
    Should it be alllowed to adopt from a foreign country? I dont think you can show a financial gain for the society as a whole, so no.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Perota
    How the staff of the airline can accept this kid with this kind of note without alerting the authority ? What the name of this airline ? I'll make sure to never flight with them.
    He was sent as an unaccompanied minor, which means he was dropped off with details of the person on the other side of the flight. Nothing unusual about that at all. When our eldest was still at school in Sydney and we were living/working in Singapore she'd do this four or five times a year with the boarding school rep picking her up.

    Quote Originally Posted by BobR
    The article was silent about what type of behavioral problems the child has and what he had done while in this woman's care. Nothing could excuse what she did, but it would have been interesting to read both sides of the story.
    Indeed. It is one thing to adopt a child and a totally different thing if the child you are adopting is nothing like the child you receive.

    Quote Originally Posted by November Rain
    Surely the woman could have foreseen that there might have been behavioral or even developmental problems and taken that into account before deciding to adopt.
    Why could or should she have? If she was told that the boy was completely 'normal' and he turns out to be anything but . . . why should she have foreseen these problems?

    Quote Originally Posted by November Rain
    Can't imagine why she was actually approved for adoption. Poor kid. Trauma upon trauma & rejected to boot.
    Again, why shouldn't she have been approved?

    It seems everyone is falling over themselves to brand this woman as an evil monster . . . but it would be fair to see the whole story

    Sadly, the child is the one who suffers . . . and he has no choice . . . and the woman was quite callous in not bringing the boy back herself . . . seems a bit cold-hearted . . .

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    So, in other words, adoption is like marriage. Both are begun with the words "untill death death do you part " (along with "for better and for worse"). However, 50% of marriages end with divorce. Hopefully, 50% of foreign adoptions don't end with a kid being put on a plane with a note for social services in his native country.

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