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    South African white supremacist leader Terreblanche has been killed

    BBC News - Eugene Terreblanche killed in South Africa

    South African white supremacist leader Eugene Terreblanche has been killed on his farm in the country's north-west. Mr Terreblanche, 69, was beaten to death after a dispute over unpaid wages, local media reports said. Two people are said to have been arrested.

    President Jacob Zuma has appealed for calm, saying the killing should not incite racial hatred. Mr Terreblanche, who campaigned for a separate white homeland, came to prominence in the early 1980s. He became the champion of a tiny minority determined to stop the process that was bringing apartheid to an end.

    "Mr Terreblanche's body was found on the bed with facial and head injuries," AFP news agency quoted a police spokesman as saying.

    The report said he had been killed after a payment dispute with two workers, who have since been charged with his murder.

    "He was hacked to death while he was taking a nap," a family friend in the town of Ventersdorp was quoted as telling Reuters news agency.

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    The murder comes amid growing anxiety about crime in South Africa and what opposition politicians say are irresponsible and racially inflammatory sentiments from a minority of the ruling ANC party, says the BBC's Karen Allen in Johannesburg.
    Farming organisations in the Ventersdorp area have called for calm as they are worried that rising tensions may escalate out of control.

    Our correspondent says it is too soon to say whether Saturday's killing was politically motivated.

    However, a spokesman for Mr Terreblanche's Afrikaner Weerstandsbeweging (Afrikaner Resistance Movement - AWB) linked the killing to the recent singing of an apartheid-era song by the head of the ANC's youth league.

    "That's what this is all about," Andre Visagie told Reuters news agency. "They used pangas and pipes to murder him as he slept."

    A spokeswoman for the opposition Democratic Alliance party pointed to racial tension. Juanita Terblanche, who is no relation, said: "This happened in a province where racial tension in the rural farming community is increasingly being fuelled by irresponsible racist utterances."

    Mr Terreblanche was released from prison in 2004 after serving three years of a five-year term for attempted murder.

    He had founded the white supremacist AWB in 1973, to oppose what he regarded as the liberal policies of the then-South African leader, John Vorster.

    His party tried terrorist tactics and threatened civil war in the run-up to South Africa's first democratic elections.

    In the 1980s, the government of PW Botha considered a constitutional plan allowing South Africa's Asian and coloured (mixed-race) minorities to vote for racially segregated parliamentary chambers.

    For the likes of Mr Terreblanche, this was the start of the slippery slope towards democracy, communism, black rule and the destruction of the Afrikaner nation, analysts say.

    Claiming on occasion to be a cultural organisation - albeit one with sidearms and paramilitary uniforms - Mr Terreblanche and his men promised to fight for the survival of the white tribe of Africa.

    Mr Terreblance continued to campaign to preserve the apartheid system until the early 1990s but had lived in relative obscurity since it collapsed.

    The AWB was revived two years ago and there had been recent efforts to form a united front among white far-right groups.
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    What's the betting no one is caught and put to trial?

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    Dunno, it doesn't quite work the same way there as it does here. I'd think that part of it will go pretty much the legal route, despite probable attempts by the ANC youth league to control it.

    But there is shit rising, mainly from the ANC youth league, which seems hell-bent on taking SA down the Zim route.

    Cry the beloved country....


    Terreblanche was always an idiot. There'll be some noise from what's left of his small following, maybe some 'incidents' around Ventersdorp, but it'd not have any real impact on the bigger scheme of things.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FlyFree View Post

    ... there is shit rising, mainly from the ANC youth league, which seems hell-bent on taking SA down the Zim route.

    Cry the beloved country....
    The secret deal forced on the ANC by de Klerk to secure the end of apartheid was that the ANC would be legally prevented from nationalizing the bankd and mineral wealth (diamonds etc). That effectively meant the blacks could have majority rule but the white corporations continued to control the wealth - thus the money to raise the standard of living for the many was impossible right from the get-go.

    Cant remember whether it was Mbeki or Zuma at the money talks..
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    Maybe I'm just dumb, or know nothing about SA. But that sounds like total rubbish to me. Secret eh?

    There is a big rich black class, owning a lot of corporations etc. Money to raise the standard of living has to be generated by good business, and handled with intelligence.

    Your post sounds like a tired 'blame everything on the white man' mantra.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marmite the Dog
    What's the betting no one is caught and put to trial?
    what odds are you paying mate ?


    Quote Originally Posted by peter000
    Two people are said to have been arrested.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FlyFree View Post


    Maybe I'm just dumb, or know nothing about SA. But that sounds like total rubbish to me. Secret eh?

    There is a big rich black class, owning a lot of corporations etc. Money to raise the standard of living has to be generated by good business, and handled with intelligence.

    Your post sounds like a tired 'blame everything on the white man' mantra.
    I don't care what you think the 'post sounds like' - it's a fact. It was secret at the time (e.g. no one was paying much attention to it) - but the terms of the deal became public very soon after the victory over apartheid.

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    How ironic that the arrogant racist finally got his reward.

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    Are they after him as well?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tom Sawyer View Post
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    Maybe I'm just dumb, or know nothing about SA. But that sounds like total rubbish to me. Secret eh?

    There is a big rich black class, owning a lot of corporations etc. Money to raise the standard of living has to be generated by good business, and handled with intelligence.

    Your post sounds like a tired 'blame everything on the white man' mantra.
    I don't care what you think the 'post sounds like' - it's a fact. It was secret at the time (e.g. no one was paying much attention to it) - but the terms of the deal became public very soon after the victory over apartheid.
    If it's a fact, then howzabout a link?

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    Quote Originally Posted by JoeMoer View Post
    How ironic that the arrogant racist finally got his reward.


    Hear Hear.
    Read quite a bit about this guy over the years. Did not come over as a nice guy at all. It was only a matter of time.

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    I believe the guy has been done for murdering some of his farm workers before as well. Certainly not a nice guy by any means. Watch his interview with Louis Theroux on youtube.

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    Quote Originally Posted by peter000
    South African white supremacist leader Terreblanche has been killed
    Finally.

    He had been dodging death for much longer than he should have.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FlyFree View Post
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    Maybe I'm just dumb, or know nothing about SA. But that sounds like total rubbish to me. Secret eh?

    There is a big rich black class, owning a lot of corporations etc. Money to raise the standard of living has to be generated by good business, and handled with intelligence.

    Your post sounds like a tired 'blame everything on the white man' mantra.
    I don't care what you think the 'post sounds like' - it's a fact. It was secret at the time (e.g. no one was paying much attention to it) - but the terms of the deal became public very soon after the victory over apartheid.
    If it's a fact, then howzabout a link?
    Ever heard of Google? Okay - search for Naomi Klein, "The Shock Doctrine" - a NY Times best seller for around a year or sift through the many academic papers on the ANC (socialism and neo liberalism, post-apartheid, etc)

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    Slain at the hands of vicious blacks over a seemingly trivial matter rather seems to prove his opinions of his fellow countrymen

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    3000+ whites murdered in racial attacks since 1994.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tom Sawyer View Post
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    Maybe I'm just dumb, or know nothing about SA. But that sounds like total rubbish to me. Secret eh?

    There is a big rich black class, owning a lot of corporations etc. Money to raise the standard of living has to be generated by good business, and handled with intelligence.

    Your post sounds like a tired 'blame everything on the white man' mantra.
    I don't care what you think the 'post sounds like' - it's a fact. It was secret at the time (e.g. no one was paying much attention to it) - but the terms of the deal became public very soon after the victory over apartheid.
    If it's a fact, then howzabout a link?
    Ever heard of Google? Okay - search for Naomi Klein, "The Shock Doctrine" - a NY Times best seller for around a year or sift through the many academic papers on the ANC (socialism and neo liberalism, post-apartheid, etc)
    What axactly are you saying? Your initial response to my post rambled about some secret deal that had the poor blacks by the balls again, and I couldn't quite make out wtf you're trying to get at, which is rare for me, I normally can decipher even the most confused ramblings.

    If t is another 'it's all the white man's fault', don't bother. That mantra is stale and increasingly shown for the stupid self-flagellation it is around the world. Blacks are quite capable of fucking things up themselves ya know, surprising as that may seem to the dying breed of pseudo-intellectual pinko apologists.


    Klein was born in Montreal, Quebec and brought up in a Jewish family with a history of left-wing activism. Her parents moved to Montreal from the U.S. in 1967 as war resisters to the Vietnam War.[1] Her mother, documentary film-maker Bonnie Sherr Klein, is best known for her anti-pornography film Not a Love Story.[2] Her father, Michael Klein, is a physician and a member of Physicians for Social Responsibility. Her brother Seth Klein is director of the British Columbia office of the Canadian Centre for Policy Alternatives.
    Her paternal grandparents were communists who began to turn against the Soviet Union after the Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact and had abandoned communism by 1956. In 1942 her grandfather Phil Klein, an animator at Disney, was fired as an agitator after the Disney animators' strike,[3] and went to work at a shipyard instead. Klein's father grew up surrounded by ideas of social justice and racial equality, but found it "difficult and frightening to be the child of Communists," a so-called red diaper baby.[4]
    Klein's husband, Avi Lewis, also comes from a leftist background. He is a TV journalist and documentary filmmaker. His parents are the writer and activist Michele Landsberg and politician and diplomat Stephen Lewis, son of David Lewis, one of the founders of the Canadian New Democratic Party, son in turn of Moishe Lewis, born Losz, a Jewish labour activist of "the Bund" who left Eastern Europe for Canada in 1921.[5]
    Klein and her husband live in Toronto.


    Professional apologist. Whether she has any connection with Africa I don't know, not interested.
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    What the Fck are you talking about?

    I'm not excusing this attack on Eugene whatever..

    I'm talking about your suggestion about blaming the white guys (I'm a white guy too - and not a Jew - what was that all about pal??)

    My main point is that since the end of Apartheid by ANC they were unable to bring about social and employment changes because a deal was done with de klerk's boys to turn over the keys to the country, but they'd taken the engine out of the car.

    So what? Well, it means that guys like Eugene who is holding the keys and wagging them in the face of some guys sweating their balls off for someone who is truly a cnut who tihnks they are complete non-humans, then doesn't pay them - and who has killed other farm workers himself - deserves what he gets from their view.

    You think that's odd?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tom Sawyer View Post

    My main point is that since the end of Apartheid by ANC they were unable to bring about social and employment changes because a deal was done with de klerk's boys to turn over the keys to the country, but they'd taken the engine out of the car.
    I see, so my reading of your post was right in the first place. Another knee-jerk apologist.

    Sorry, I'm way over-tired of debating knee-jerk apologists. Your post in another thread confirms your naivete. The whole discussion is 100% predictable.

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    So then - what exactly am I apologizing for? As for jerking - have a good night!

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    Eugene Terreblanche is dead... OK, er, next post...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Beadle View Post
    3000+ whites murdered in racial attacks since 1994.
    I'm surprised it wasn't very many more considering the way they treated the majority population during the years of apartheid.

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