Of course! Lesbians are any woman who is actually in a position of authority over him or shows no interest in him at all.Originally Posted by November Rain
Of course! Lesbians are any woman who is actually in a position of authority over him or shows no interest in him at all.Originally Posted by November Rain
Apparently the RAN prohibits sexual relations at sea. It would be interesting to see the uproar if lesbians or gays were reprimanded for this.
Last night I was discussing this and the rugby players scandal with my sister. Apparently someone intoxicated cannot legally give consent, therefore having sex with a drunk woman could be considered rape. However it's gray area and a jury would never convict. To make things clear ppl are suggesting creating a law making it illegal to have sex while intoxicated.
wooo back , we don't need that many frustrated folks with access to lethal weapons ,To make things clear ppl are suggesting creating a law making it illegal to have sex while intoxicated.
no sir , no way .....................................
HMAS Success, which has a crew of 220, is currently on exercises in South East Asia.
I reckon all bets were off when the HMAS Success docked in the Andamen for some R&R!
And I reckon any sailor with the name of Cess must of been cheating and or bull-shiting about his name!
Same as slags then
Originally Posted by Lily
Not all of them are strictly 100% clit lickers all the time. Some of them have the occasional hankering for a bit of hard cock like normal women. A question of degrees I guess. We all like to categorize people into neat absolute boxes as it helps to remove those confusing grey areas. I am sure a lot of self confessed lezzos have transgressed to the other side on occasions. Quite an achievement for any bloke who could swing em over even temporarily (however ugly they might be), and certainly worthy of the very highest points score.
^ This is the level of debate these days in Australia. It's as if regretting having sex with someone can be construed as rape.
Its not really a gray area. Basically, the chic has to be so pissed she doesn't understand whats happening before its considered non consent. Which means virtually passed out. If the woman responds positively to sexual advances its regarded as inferred consent and by the same token, if she reacts negatively, its regarded as non consent. Just being drunk is no excuse for doing something you would normally consider wrong. If the law accepted that excuse it would open the door to all kinds of criminal defences. People get drunk by choice and knowing it may affect their judgement. They have to take responsibility for that choice.
Men in Australia are now being encouraged not to have sex with with women under the influence.
My sister has a PHD and works abused children, according to her responding to sexual advances while under the influence didn't amount to consent.
She also said that a jury never gives a conviction in a rape case, but had to back track when I asked how men ended up in prison for rape.
My father and BIB weren't game to enter the discussion unless it was to back up the ladies. In Australia going against the grain of political correctness is not tolerated and men will find themselves in trouble for it.
I am an Aussie mate and I can assure you that consensual sex with a drunk woman is not considered as rape. The woman would have to be so drunk as to be incapable of giving consent to make it rape. Shit if they did what your sister reckons why the hell would blokes be buying the girls drinks all night?
Your sister is talking out of her arse. Being drunk is no excuse for regrettable behaviour under law by either men or women. You make the choice to get drunk knowing it will impair your judgement and you are responsible for what actions you take after that. Turn it around and ask your learned sister if the woman was sober and the blokes judgement was impaired by alcohol, -- would it be considered rape if he regretted it in the morning? I'll bet she says "no, -- thats different".
Yeah.Originally Posted by dirtydog
What a wanker you are.Originally Posted by Panda
Not trueOriginally Posted by Smithson
Not true eitherOriginally Posted by Smithson
You are lying! If you were not, your sister would have told you that less than eighty percent of rapes are reported, of those less than fifty per cent of perpetrators are actually charged and of that, less than five per cent are convicted and even of the convicted only fifty per cent of them actually do any time. Of that tiny percentage of people who do time, it is not their first offence. If your sister doesn't know that or is not prepared to stand up for it, she is in the wrong job.Originally Posted by Smithson
Are you saying that men dont rape? That no man should be goaled for rape?
You, and your father actually argued about that with your sister who works with abused children????
Who is abusing those children your sister works with?
Oh, surely not men?
No, it cant possibly.
No... no Australian man would ever rape.................................unless she deserved it, of course.Originally Posted by Smithson
Mini skirts does it every time......Originally Posted by Lily
Well, Jesus......................what they expect?Originally Posted by dirtydog
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Yes they are, the AFL has a campaign which includes this.Not true eitherOriginally Posted by Smithson
If you read carefully you'll see my father wasn't backing me up, pls don't be so quick to bite.You are lying!Originally Posted by Smithson
My point was that men are convicted, which is true. Otherwise I pretty much agree with you.
Of course there are Australian men who rape and do other horrible things. But it's a quantum leap to say that a woman under the influence cannot give consent, so it's therefore rape.
There would also be an outcry if gay men or lesbian women were reprimanded for having sex in the navy, even though it's against their rules. When men plan or try to have sex with women, all the sudden there is a need for an inquiry.
The fact that the job involves killing ppl is ignored. Are the ppl calling for an inquiry only concerned with the Australia women?
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Dont get so upset about rape Lilly. You got to be in the very low risk category there.
Ridiculous thing to say, Panda. Rape is about power to degrade, power to humiliate and power to force, not sexual interest.Originally Posted by Panda
Oh, and lesbians (not the silly little bints here - Dees - that swing according to who has the money/best lifestyle to offer them) generally do not want men. Hard though that may be to believe, true gays (male or female) have sex with their own gender and far prefer it that way. To most, it would be unthinkable (not to mention nauseating) to have sex with the opposite gender.
They should never have allowed women on warships. I told them this was coming 20 years ago.
This comment proves to me that you aren't a woman. Why shouldn't they be allowed on navy ships? Just because they may be bought for money?
I agree that if they consent then why not, but it seems like they didn't really know that they were caught in some sort of 'sex game' either. Men are such pigs.
Perhaps I should have put a smilie on the end of my post to indicate it was a tongue in cheek dig at our resident geriatric, feminazi troll.
Old Lil has probably been walking up and down dark streets late at night with a tazer and pepper spray in her hand bag in the hope of getting even with those evil rapists hiding in the bushes. Perhaps one day she will get lucky.
Really? I may not be as prolific in posting my pics around the place as you, but they're on here if you look.Originally Posted by phuketbound
No, because I used to be a Navy wife. And a Navy brat, before that. I also met a lot of women that join the forces (particularly lower ranks, officers seem to be genuinely interested in their careers) simply to get men. Putting men & some women together in such close quarters (have you ever been on a warship???) for long periods of time is asking for trouble. As Sabang says, this is what you get. And, instead of getting all feminist about these women's rights (the sailors), ask yourselves what the wives and girlfriends of these guys are thinking right now. Whether they suspect their partner of being involved. Also, you have practical issues of assigning space in very cramped conditions. And the bad PR when something like this happens.Originally Posted by phuketbound
Women should not be onboard Navy vessels.
^ How about confirmed lesbians who would rather comit Harri Kari than have sex with someone of the opposite gender?
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