NKorea vows to attack Japan if rocket intercepted

**phuketbound** · 03-04-2009, 07:23 AM

SEOUL (AFP) - North Korea's military threatened Thursday to attack "major targets" in Japan if Tokyo tries to shoot down a satellite it intends to launch as soon as this weekend.

"If Japan recklessly 'intercepts' the DPRK's (North's) satellite for peaceful purposes, the KPA will mercilessly deal deadly blows not only at the already deployed intercepting means but at major targets," said a statement from the Korean People's Army (KPA).

Japan, South Korea and the United States see the North's plan to launch a communications satellite some time between April 4 and 8 as a disguised test of a Taepodong-2 ballistic missile which could in theory reach Alaska or Hawaii.

US defence officials said Thursday they had detected "propellant activity" at a North Korea rocket, but said it was uncertain that Pyongyang had begun fuelling ahead of its planned launch.

A US defence official speaking on condition of anonymity told AFP "it's ambiguous" if North Korea has begun fuelling the rocket.

But CNN quoted a senior US military official as saying the North had begun fuelling its rocket in a sign it could launch as early as this weekend.
Japanese Prime Minister Taro Aso was later Thursday quoted as saying by the Kyodo news agency that it could be on Saturday.
Japan and the United States have deployed anti-missile Aegis destroyers to monitor the launch.

Tokyo has also deployed Patriot guided-missile units on land, and says it will try to bring down the rocket should it start falling toward Japanese territory.
Tokyo may toughen existing bilateral sanctions by halting all exports to Pyongyang and tightening restrictions on financial transactions, said government spokesman Takeo Kawamura.

Japan also said it would call for an emergency meeting of the UN Security Council if North Korea went ahead with the launch.
"Japan will request an urgent meeting of the Security Council to discuss this issue," Yukio Takasu, its ambassador to the UN, told reporters.

Recent satellite photos appear to confirm the North has indeed mounted a satellite atop the missile, US experts say.
But the US and its regional allies say a satellite launch also tests missile technology, and the North would breach a UN resolution passed after its 2006 missile launches and underground nuclear test.

South Korean President Lee Myung-Bak and US President Barack Obama called Thursday for "stern, unified action" by the international community in response to any launch when they met in London on the sidelines of the G20 summit, according to the Seoul presidential office.
South Korea is actively considering playing a full part in the US-led Proliferation Security Initiative if the rocket is fired, its foreign ministry said.

The initiative aims to halt ships suspected of carrying weapons of mass destruction and related materials. The North's Minju Joson newspaper responded that any such move would amount to a "declaration of war."

Yonhap news agency, quoting a government source, said the North has moved a MiG-23 squadron -- between 12 and 24 planes -- to the northeast, where the Musudan-ri launch site is located. On Wednesday Pyongyang threatened to shoot down US spy planes monitoring the site.
Seoul's defence ministry declined comment.

More than 100 people demonstrated in central Seoul, torching North Korean flags and a miniature replica of a missile. "Punish Kim Jong-Il over missile launch," they shouted about the North's leader.
Pyongyang has said that even a UN discussion of its launch -- let alone new sanctions -- would trigger the breakdown of international nuclear disarmament talks.

UN resolutions bar Pyongyang from missile-related activities.
However, the North has signed on to international space treaties and analysts believe China and Russia would block any new sanctions move on the grounds that the resolutions do not cover satellite launches.
Moscow urged North Korea's neighbours on Thursday to hold back from military action over the issue.

Meanwhile Taiwan called on North Korea to exercise restraint in launching the rocket, saying the plan had threatened peace in the region.
"As a member of Northeast Asia, we're very concerned about it," the country's foreign ministry said in a statement.

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**blackgang** · 03-04-2009, 07:48 AM

Ain't that the shits, been on their knees to those crazy bastards since 1951 and licking a lot of asscrack.
Time it was finished, and a few conv. bombs inside DPRK and nukes ready for back up.
People starving to death ain't got that good a life at best so not do to much colateral damage of any importance really.
Them cocksuckers is nuts anyway, and it's gotta happen one day anyway.

**kingwilly** · 03-04-2009, 09:00 AM

but looking at it from a different perspective,

Why shouldn't North Korea be allowed to test a rocket? The US is allowed to test their own.

And last time NK tested a nuclear weapon the world was surprised, this time they have politely warned the whole world what they are doing.....

seems like the west wants it both ways....

don't surprise us, now you'll told us what you are doing we want you to stop...

**TSR2** · 03-04-2009, 09:05 AM

^

Yes but NK has a history of threats and blackmail etc etc
Kim is a nutter,

**Rattanaburi** · 03-04-2009, 09:05 AM

^ I agree with KingWilly. Does that mean Japan can test fire its missles over North Korea, China, Russia, and into the Arctic Ocean?

**kingwilly** · 03-04-2009, 09:09 AM

Originally Posted by TSR2

Yes but NK has a history of threats and blackmail etc etc

US has a history of using nuclear weapons on civilians.

Originally Posted by TSR2

Kim is a nutter,

so was George W Bush.

**TSR2** · 03-04-2009, 09:11 AM

Originally Posted by kingwilly

so was George W Bush.

True but he can be /was replced, not so Kim

**blackgang** · 03-04-2009, 09:33 AM

Originally Posted by kingwilly

US has a history of using nuclear weapons on civilians.

For a person that has no real idea what he is talking about, you sure let your bigotry prove how much you do not know or understand, be the same as my 13 year old daughter talking Foreign policy with Barak Obama.

**sabang** · 03-04-2009, 09:37 AM

It's not possible to stop NK launching a satellite, and sure it is also potentially a ballistics test for other payloads. They did announce it in accordance with international law, and surveillance backs up that the payload is a satellite.

It's a deeply paranoid, impoverished, nutter regime still living in the Korean War. It is also contained in a virtual ring of iron by the US & Sth Korean military presence over the border and Japans substantial armed forces. China acts as a moderating influence too. Little benefit in getting involved in a conflict with them, the regime will implode in due course anyway.

**panama hat** · 03-04-2009, 11:01 AM

Originally Posted by blackgang

Originally Posted by kingwilly

US has a history of using nuclear weapons on civilians.

For a person that has no real idea what he is talking about, you sure let your bigotry prove how much you do not know or understand, be the same as my 13 year old daughter talking Foreign policy with Barak Obama.

BG re-writing history? Are you suggesting that the US didn't detonate nuclear bombs over Hiroshima and Nagasaki?

I believe that N. Korea wants to use a trajectory that passes over Japan, KW, and that is not acceptable.

**phuketbound** · 03-04-2009, 11:40 AM

^Not acceptable is an understatement.

KW,, how the hell can you compare Kim Jong Ill to Bush? Bush had at least some sanity..(how much I'm not sure), but Kim is a dictator. He doesn't care that the U.S, Japan and SK will start a war if they go anywhere near Japan.

The only thing that frightens me is that SK is caught in the middle between NK and Japan. Don't mess with nuclear warheads imo.

**kingwilly** · 03-04-2009, 11:45 AM

Originally Posted by panama hat

I believe that N. Korea wants to use a trajectory that passes over Japan, KW, and that is not acceptable.

I know, I'm playing devil's advocate a little, here.

**panama hat** · 03-04-2009, 12:27 PM

^ Monkey-thief!

**Norton** · 03-04-2009, 12:34 PM

Originally Posted by phuketbound

NKorea vows to attack Japan if rocket intercepted

Two countries mentioned in the OP title and suddenly it's about the US, again.

**panama hat** · 03-04-2009, 12:40 PM

No, now it's about Monkeys

**kingwilly** · 03-04-2009, 12:42 PM

Originally Posted by panama hat

^ Monkey-thief!

I thought it was for me!

I tried to send you a green...

couldn't - I blame the USA

**panama hat** · 03-04-2009, 01:00 PM

It was for BG, but now you may have it . . . and I will accept a promissory green . . . and blame Obama

**Bugs** · 03-04-2009, 02:02 PM

Originally Posted by sabang

It's not possible to stop NK launching a satellite, and sure it is also potentially a ballistics test for other payloads. They did announce it in accordance with international law, and surveillance backs up that the payload is a satellite.

It's a deeply paranoid, impoverished, nutter regime still living in the Korean War. It is also contained in a virtual ring of iron by the US & Sth Korean military presence over the border and Japans substantial armed forces. China acts as a moderating influence too. Little benefit in getting involved in a conflict with them, the regime will implode in due course anyway.

If indeed it can be viewed as also a ballistics missile test, then NK will be in violation of a 2006 security council resolution - which is waht the US, Japan, and SK all contend.
INSIDE JoongAng Daily

“The two leaders agreed that the missile firing will be an undeniable violation of UN Security Council Resolution 1718,” the spokesman said. “President Obama particularly said a new resolution to sanction the North is under preparation.”

In which case of course after NK does violate the UN security council resolution, some of the UN members will impose sanctions, and some of course will not - because there is so much unity and UN resolutions hold so much power. And maybe, just maybe, if everybody gets together and agrees that NK have been really bad boys, they will collectively shake thier fingers at NK and pass yet another useless UN resolution.

It also allows the UN member nations to impose economic and trade sanctions against the North as punishment for missile-related activities.

Or maybe not - maybe there will be no real international response at all after NK violates that UN resolution - at least not a response everyone agrees upon, or one that will have any affect what so ever on what NK does or does not do in the future.

While South Korea, the United States and Japan have seen North Korea’s attempt to launch a long-range missile as a violation of the UN resolution, China and Russia, which have veto power in the UN Security Council, have been reluctant about imposing more sanctions on the North over the latest crisis.

Maybe all of this will push Japan into giving China an ultimatum - either keep NK in check (stop nuclear development, and no more missile tests) or Japan will amend their constitution, ramp up military spending, develop nukes of their own, and drastically improve their militaries offensive capabilities. Playing tough guy has worked for NK - why not for Japan? And maybe Japan can throw in a requirement for China to help to get NK to cough up the details on the rest of those abducted by NK from Japan in the 70's and 80's?

Or maybe things will go back to normal. Thousands of NK's will continue to starve, little kim will continue to threaten to hold his breath until he turns blue if the west does not give NK what they want, and NK will continue to develop their nuclear and missile capabilities. So that when the power struggle really kicks into high gear when little kim becomes dead kim, some nutter can nuclear weapons to secure his position as the next kim.

**good2bhappy** · 03-04-2009, 02:05 PM

Originally Posted by blackgang

be the same as my 13 year old daughter talking Foreign policy with Barak Obama.

She probably would talk more sense

**kingwilly** · 03-04-2009, 02:13 PM

Originally Posted by panama hat

and I will accept a promissory green . .

deal.

IOU

**kingwilly** · 03-04-2009, 02:15 PM

Originally Posted by Bugs

If indeed it can be viewed as also a ballistics missile test,

and if it is not a ballistic missile test?

is this yet another example of the US plus SK and Japan acting like bully boys?

**good2bhappy** · 03-04-2009, 02:20 PM

it seems it takes about 3 days on the launch pad to get it ready.
How can that be much of a threat?

**Happyman** · 03-04-2009, 02:31 PM

If - and this is only a thought - it is a genuine satellite launch vehicle test- and if - it fails in flight -and if- the trajectory of the failed missile shows an impact within Japan - and if - the Japanese shot it down over the sea (even over international waters) as they have said they would (justifiable IMO) - what would the " Dear Leader"do - declare war on the world like he said he would ????

**good2bhappy** · 03-04-2009, 03:24 PM

^ talk

**Mid** · 03-04-2009, 04:44 PM

Why shouldn't North Korea be allowed to test a rocket?

after they can feed their own , stop executing those who wish to leave etc we could address your question .

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