Thread: While we are freezing, South Austalia is burning

we have had bush fires here for ever, but the bleeding hearts and beuracrats have led to all of this crap, no back burning, no regular under growth control, no fire breaks, i can,t even do a burn off to control the build up on my block with out filling in a shit load of forms, i just got back fromn my block from clearing and cutting all morning ,we,ve had a shit load of rain, at least we are on the tail of summer so hopefully no great dry/scrub fires, but at least i know i,ve kept my place clear as had my new neighbours

my heart goes out to those poor buggers down south, just hope for a nice southerly change with a bit of rain

Originally Posted by nedwalk

just hope for a nice southerly change with a bit of rain

none expected today, mercury is at about 43 degrees again.

this happens every year
hot and dry and some dickheads go out and light fires.

part and parcel of living in the countryside

According to a report I saw the other night, the Qld floods and the southern heatwave are being caused by the same weather system which is based in the Indian Ocean.

For a few years we've had the 'El Nino' effect from the Pacific Ocean and now we have this 'effect' from the other side. Can't win, can we?

Seems like it. What I don't understand is people that go and build houses in the danger areas.

Originally Posted by jandajoy

What I don't understand is people that go and build houses in the danger areas.

or if they do they should be spending the money to make their property fire safe for the environment they are in

Originally Posted by jandajoy

So what's new.

Shit happens every year in one area or another.

Don't understand the fuss.

65 dead so far, this doesn't happen every year.

Originally Posted by MeMock

Originally Posted by jandajoy

So what's new.

Shit happens every year in one area or another.

Don't understand the fuss.

65 dead so far, this doesn't happen every year.

exactly they are saying that this is as bad as the ash wednesday fires.

correction,

worse.

AT least 65 people are dead in the bushfires ripping through Victoria, in a disaster which has eclipsed the state's Ash Wednesday devastation of two decades ago.
Authorities are continuing a grim search for more bodies as horrific eyewitness accounts emerge from devastated communities. It was estimated at least 700 homes had been lost - 550 of them in the Kinglake area.
Victoria Police authorities had confirmed 65 deaths. But the final toll could be much higher as authorities move deeper into the affected towns.
Prime Minister Kevin Rudd announced emergency relief funding for the state, saying "Hell in all its fury had visited ... many good people lie dead".
Whole towns have been destroyed and thousands of people left homeless with record temperatures and fierce winds sparking devastating infernos.
The town of Marysville was reported to have been wiped out, but the Country Fire Authority (CFA) said many residents had made it to emergency shelter in a local park.
More destruction and power blackouts are possible, with up to a dozen fires still burning out of control. And it has been reported that arsonists are suspected of relighting some fires after fire crews had brought them under control.
The worst bushfire to strike Victoria was the 1983 Ash Wednesday disaster when 47 people were killed in the state.
Facing the fires? Tell us your story below. Most of the bodies were discovered in towns northeast of Melbourne - eight at Kinglake, six at Kinglake West, five each at St Andrews and Flowerdale, four each at Callignee and Wandong, three each at Humevalem, Taggerty and Hazelwood, two at Hazeldene and one each in Arthurs Creek, Strathewan, Upper Callignee, Jeealang, Long Gully, Yea and Bendigo.
At least six bodies were found in the one car at Kinglake, with reports that others may have been trying to escape the fire in cars.
Police have not yet given the gender or ages of the victims, but one Kinglake resident said three members of the same family, believed to include a 14-year-old girl, a nine-year-old boy and an uncle, had died in the same house.
"It rained fire," another Kinglake resident told Sky News.
Strathewen resident Mary Avola said her husband of 43 years, Peter Avola, was among those killed. "He was behind me for a while and we tried to reach the oval but the gates were locked," she told Melbourne's Herald Sun.

"He just told me to go and that's the last time I saw him."
Firefighter Richard Hoyle described the scene as "a holocaust". "The road is riddled with burnt-out cars involved in multiple collisions and debris," he said.
Raylene Kincaide, of Narbethong, said her home had been destroyed and there was little left of the town. "Everyone we know has lost everything they had," she said on ABC radio.
More than 20 people have been admitted to Melbourne's Alfred Hospital with burns and three are in a critical condition. Seven of the injured have burns to more than 30 per cent of their bodies.

Anyone concerned about family or friends in fire areas should call the CFA on 1800 727 077.

Premier John Brumby has described the disaster as "the worst day in our history". He called the bushfires "a monster that couldn't be controlled".
The CFA said the communities of Kinglake, Kinglake West, Toolangi, Glenburn, Strathewen, Chum Creek, Dixons Creek, Castella, Pheasant Creek, Doreen, Yan Yean, Woodstock, Mernda, Mittons Bridge, Hurstbridge, St Andrews, Panton Hill, Arthurs Creek, Smiths Gully, Christmas Hills, Healesville, Yarra Glen, Coldstream, Tarrawarra, Steels Creek, had been and still may be directly impacted upon by the fire.

Originally Posted by MeMock

65 dead so far, this doesn't happen every year.

Agreed. It's a bad one.

Originally Posted by Lily

Originally Posted by jandajoy

faucet

Do we have 'faucets' in Aus?

Don't be a stupid f*ckin' smart ass.

You sound like a Brit.

The death toll is now the worst in Australian history, exceeding 1983. And more to come.

76 killed in deadliest-ever Australian wildfires - washingtonpost.com

HEALESVILLE, Australia -- Towering flames razed entire towns in southeastern Australia and burned fleeing residents in their cars as the death toll rose to 76 on Sunday, making it the country's deadliest fire disaster.
At least 700 homes were destroyed in Saturday's inferno when searing temperatures and wind blasts produced a firestorm that swept across a swath of the country's Victoria state, where all the deaths occurred.

From NASA-

First of all, Jandajoy, have you ever visited Australia? A comment of "Why would any one build thier house in a danger area?" is a bit of a give away that you have not been there. Most farming communties are based in areas that are prone to bush fires and comming from a farming family, i have wittnessed these many times. From a small scub fire started by a stupid cockatoo chewing on power lines to full scale bushfires started by some dumbass for kicks. Yes, risks aree there, but next time you chomp into your toast on a sunday morning or your roast leg of lamb for Sunday dinner, spare a thought of where that wheat or lamb came from. I bet it was from one of those fools that built there house in a danger area. My parents were some of the fortunate ones that managed to get out of Marysville before the fires hit, only to be greated with the news that there retirement nest egg, that they had built by7 years of farming in Australia, was no more. Imagine being told that what you had worked and i do mean worked for years gone. Yes they are 2 of the lucky ones, as my dad but it, to be alive and what was destoyed can be rebuilt. that comment in itself descibes my old man and his shear determination he has shown all his life. So please spare a thought for those people before you make rash and heartless comments.

84 dead and still rising.

Originally Posted by beenaroundawhile01

First of all, Jandajoy, have you ever visited Australia? A comment of "Why would any one build thier house in a danger area?" is a bit of a give away that you have not been there. Most farming communties are based in areas that are prone to bush fires and comming from a farming family, i have wittnessed these many times. From a small scub fire started by a stupid cockatoo chewing on power lines to full scale bushfires started by some dumbass for kicks. Yes, risks aree there, but next time you chomp into your toast on a sunday morning or your roast leg of lamb for Sunday dinner, spare a thought of where that wheat or lamb came from. I bet it was from one of those fools that built there house in a danger area. My parents were some of the fortunate ones that managed to get out of Marysville before the fires hit, only to be greated with the news that there retirement nest egg, that they had built by7 years of farming in Australia, was no more. Imagine being told that what you had worked and i do mean worked for years gone. Yes they are 2 of the lucky ones, as my dad but it, to be alive and what was destoyed can be rebuilt. that comment in itself descibes my old man and his shear determination he has shown all his life. So please spare a thought for those people before you make rash and heartless comments.

You gotta love these folk who don't bother doing any research whatsoever.

I souldn't bite but any thing about this you find funny i am sure others do not. be carefull boy.

Originally Posted by beenaroundawhile01

I souldn't bite but any thing about this you find funny i am sure others do not. be carefull boy.

Fok off twat. I've lived remote bush in Aus for quite long enough thank you. I've been in fires, seen fires and helped put out fires. I stand by all I've said.

Originally Posted by jandajoy

You gotta love these folk who don't bother doing any research whatsoever.

Well, I have to wonder too. Have you never stepped outside Sydney or Melbourne?

How dare you call people 'idiots' because they choose to live outside of your little world.

Laugh away; you are the idiot.

Quit all your sniping. To date the death toll is up to 84.
Share your thoughts to the dead and their families.
Australians like to live in the bush. I'm certain that those who do take a lot of precautions to protect themselves from nature, but sometimes as in this incident nature is out of control.
My sypmathies to all those suffering.

Originally Posted by jandajoy

Fok off twat. I've lived remote bush in Aus for quite long enough thank you. I've been in fires, seen fires and helped put out fires. I stand
by all I've said.

YEah, right. Pull the othe leg!

Originally Posted by Lily

YEah, right. Pull the othe leg!

Do you really want to go here Lilo?

Al right mate I'll call your bluff. What fires? where and when? Don't make yourself look like a dick. I was pleasent in my request for you to show some consideration for those who have lost a lot and all you have done is laughed and showen what an illimformed and unkowning "twat you are"

Thanks Lily, My thoughts ARE with those that have lost lives and property. things that can not be replaced. All i was doing was showing the harsh reality and the attitude of ozzie battlers.