^^ Scotland Yard has been investigating a British link.
No surprise, they are living in Britain unchecked and with all the freedoms a British passport affords them.
The sooner the repatriation begins the better.
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^^ Scotland Yard has been investigating a British link.
No surprise, they are living in Britain unchecked and with all the freedoms a British passport affords them.
The sooner the repatriation begins the better.
And who exactly would you wish to "expatriate" to satisfy your racial/religious prejudices?Quote:
Originally Posted by EmperorTud
There are more than 2 million British citizen of Asian descend, more than 700.000 of those from Pakistan.
And more than 1.5 million Muslims.
If any sizable portion of those were 'terrorists' or militants and reciprocate your sentiments, the UK would be a pile of dust by now.
No prejudices here my friend, only the danger of radical Islam.Quote:
Originally Posted by spiff
Yes and radical forms of Islam are an increasing attraction to a lot of them.Quote:
Originally Posted by spiff
Stroller doesn't buy the notion of radical islam.
He suggests it's a myth perpetuated by racists and ethnocentric zealots. :rolleyes:
'Britons' role' in attacks probed
https://teakdoor.com/images/imported/2008/11/967.jpg Militants attacked the Indian city on Wednesday
UK officials have confirmed they are investigating reports of Britons being among those who carried out the attacks in Mumbai.
It follows a report on Indian news channel NDTV that there were British citizens among the militants.
British security sources have told the BBC they are asking their Indian counterparts for information.
But Foreign Secretary David Miliband said it was "too early to say" whether any of those involved were British.
'Debriefed and questioned'
According to UK officials, no hard evidence of British nationals being among the attackers had yet been provided by Indian authorities, BBC security correspondent Gordon Corera said.
Mr Miliband said: "I'm afraid I can't tell you anything about the names or origins or sources of this attack at this stage.
"Obviously the Indian authorities are focusing on ending the incident before they are focusing on where it came from.
"I think it's right to say that at least one of the perpetrators is still alive and is being questioned by the Indian authorities, and obviously we'd want to follow that up as well.
"But it's too early to say where the people came from," he added.
One British national, Andreas Liveras, died and at least seven Britons were hurt in the attacks on the Indian city, which left at least 130 people dead.
Prime Minister Gordon Brown said it was too soon to say whether Britons were involved, and Home Secretary Jacqui Smith said British authorities had "no knowledge" of any home-grown links.
BBC NEWS | UK | 'Britons' role' in attacks probed
Indian security forces say two of the terrorists held British passports. Not yet confirmed.
Any terrorists still alive?
You reckon those nice Indian interrogators will supply down pillows and a Godiva chocolate before bedtime?
:rofl:
....this longing to hate
So, who exactly do you wish to expatriate, because of "the danger of radical Islam"? Every Muslim in the UK? Or could some of them stay, as long as they prominently display a sign identifying them as a Muslim and the potential menace they pose to others, say, something like a star?Quote:
Originally Posted by EmperorTud
Of course I am not advocating a similar route your country took against the Jews during the 30's.Quote:
Originally Posted by spiff
But those preachers of hate, and those that follow their doctrine at places like Finsbury Park Mosque and many other places throughout the UK should be repatriated with due haste.
It's interesting you made the Nazi connection as these people are every bit as intolerant and dangerous as the Nazis were.
Either you are really as thick as the brainwashed army Muppet I imagine you to be, or you are presenting a pretty good impersonation of a clueless retard from provincial Middle-America for trolling purposes.Quote:
Originally Posted by Texpat
Thank goodness that elitist commie Hussein is your new commander in charge. :D
Good, I didn't think you would go as far as agree.Quote:
Originally Posted by EmperorTud
No, they are not as dangerous as the Nazis, they are a minute minority with no chance of ever becoming a mainstream political force. I am not sure of the implications of "repatriating" British subjects, or if it is a legal option at all, besides the ethical issues of such proposal.
Foreign nationals with non-permanent residence permits used to be fairly easy to get rid of, as I recall from my time in the UK, but legal practice has changed over the last 2 decades I gather. In some cases it is difficult to understand why certain persons aren't locked up or forced to continue their activities outside the UK.
There are several issues here, amongst them the liberal British traditition of hospitality to political refugees and controversial thinkers and agitators such as Karl Marx (not that I consider any Islamic theorist to be in the same intellectual league), and the tendency to stereotype an ethnic and religious minority, as can be frequently witnessed.
WASHINGTON, Nov. 28 (UPI) -- British officials say they were checking out the possibility that at least two British citizens were involved in the Mumbai terror attacks.
Meanwhile, counter-terrorism officials in Europe, the United States and India said the terrorists likely included Islamist networks based in Pakistan -- and may have received support in the past from Pakistan's intelligence agencies, The Washington Post reported Friday.
2 Mumbai attackers may be British - UPI.com
The only good Muslim Fundamentalist is a DEAD ONE:)
...and those that forgot to take their meds.Quote:
Originally Posted by Texpat
The way the barbarian Indians do things, as opposed to our bedtime storytellers, I expect any of the terrorists that committed and then survive these atrocities to talk away about any and everything their captors wish to discuss...the only way to stop them talking would be a gun to the head.Quote:
Originally Posted by Texpat
Looks like Brit mozzie fundamentalists are up there in the scum premier league of rotting infidel carcasses, breathing down Saudi necks.
I think we should cheat a bit by giving them more freedom and tolerance than the Saudis enjoy, then we can be number one and whenever a major atrocity occurs people can intuitively think Blighty not raghead.
Anti-terror police were last night investigating a “British connection” with the Mumbai fanatics.
BUTCHERS OF MUMBAI ARE BRITS
They were examining links between Britain’s Islamic community and the killers who slaughtered at least 160 victims.
Highly-placed sources in India claimed that at least seven of the killers, who caused carnage in India’s commercial centre, had strong British connections.
Two of them were said to come from Leeds, as did two of the four London July 7 bombers.
Another of the gunmen – all believed to be from Pakistani backgrounds – was alleged to have links to Bradford in West Yorkshire and a fourth to Hartlepool on Teesside. Investigations are also underway in Dewsbury, Yorkshire.
Daily Express | UK News :: Butchers of Mumbai are brits
Now wheres that idiot Obsidion who had the audacity to call me a racist bigot who was over reacting to news that home grown terrorists were the real problem Britain faces. There are literally hundreds of suspected cells under observation at any one time in west Yorkshire alone. So my question is, how did they slip through the net? Is it because we have such a problem, that security forces cant keep up with the amount of potential terrorists out there.
It's all just a misunderstanding.
Ant and Stroller and Reach Around will be round shortly to explain it all away.
Indian Police. Say man arrested for Mubai bombings is an Indian counter-insurgency police officer.
Source Sky news.
Link: Mumbai Terror Attacks: Counter-Insurgency Police Officer Arrested | World News | Sky News
PS my first century Wahoooo
Jailed American Testifies About Islamist Involvement in Mumbai Attacks
NEW DELHI—
An American in a U.S. jail for his role in the 2008 terror attacks that killed 166 people in Mumbai, India, told an Indian court a Pakistan-based Islamic terror group made two failed attempts to mount terror strikes in the city in the months prior to the assault.
David Headley, who is serving a 35-year-sentence for his role in making preparations for the attacks, testified in an Indian court via video link from an undisclosed location in the United States.
Headley’s deposition is expected to give India more ammunition as it continues to press Pakistan to act against those who planned the Mumbai terror strikes, which New Delhi has long blamed on the banned Lashkar-e-Taiba (LeT).
Mumbai attacks
In 2008, 10 heavily armed gunmen mounted coordinated raids that lasted three days on the city’s main rail station, a Jewish center and five-star hotels.
Prosecutor Ujjwal Nikam told reporters Headley said he joined the LeT in 2002 after listening to lectures by Hafiz Saeed, the group’s founder who urged waging “jihad” to free Kashmir from Indian rule.
“They said they should do the jihad. Then I asked the meaning of jihad and he said to fight against the Indian army,” Nikam quoted Headley as saying.
Headley has an American mother and a Pakistani father.
Nikam said Headley, who scouted for locations during seven visits to Mumbai prior to the strike, also revealed he met with officials of Pakistan’s spy agency, the Inter-Services Intelligence.
The 2008 attacks in Mumbai continue to strain relations between the two rivals, with India blaming Pakistan for not doing enough to punish those responsible, and Islamabad saying New Delhi has failed to provide sufficient evidence to win convictions.
Last week, the Indian foreign ministry reacted strongly after Saeed warned of more terror attacks of the kind mounted last month on an Indian air base in Pathankot.
"Saeed is a globally designated terrorist. It is a matter of grave concern that he can enjoy freedom in Pakistan," the statement said.
Tensions
The Pathankot attacks put strains on ties between the two countries just as they appeared to be improving.
Talks between their foreign secretaries have been postponed and no new date has been set for the dialogue.
Kiren Rijiju, India’s junior Home Minister, said Headley's testimony would lead to a logical conclusion in the Mumbai case.
Information provided by Headley, which included information about his background and the "working systems, supports, backups. ... It will help us," Rijiju said.
The United States has turned down India’s request for Headley’s extradition, but a conditional pardon given by an Indian court in December allowed him to become a witness.
His deposition came in connection with the trial of an Indian national, Sayed Zabiuddin Ansari, who is allegedly one of the plotters in the Mumbai terror attacks.
Jailed American Testifies About Islamist Involvement in Mumbai Attacks
Analysts Not Surprised by Release of Suspected 2008 Mumbai Attacks Mastermind
WASHINGTON — Anti-terrorism analysts in Washington and New Delhi are critical of Pakistan's decision to release a man accused of masterminding the 2008 Mumbai terror attacks that killed 160, but some say they are not surprised by the move. U.S. officials say Hafiz Saeed is a terrorist.
He was set free by Pakistani authorities after 11 months of house arrest in the eastern city of Lahore on Friday. Earlier last week, a judicial panel of Lahore High Court said there was not enough evidence to continue Saeed’s detention.
While the news of Saeed’s release has caught worldwide attention, some experts on South Asian affairs say Pakistan's move was bound to happen - sooner or later. “I see Saeed's release as totally unsurprising. This is a story that's played out multiple times in recent history: He is put under house arrest only to be released,” Michael Kugelman, a Washington-based South Asian analyst associated with the Woodrow Wilson Center told VOA.
“Pakistani legal authorities had said all along that there was not sufficient evidence to keep him detained, so it was just a matter of time before he was released,” Kugelman added.
Hafiz Saeed is the head of Jamaat-ud-Dawa group (JuD) and Falah-e-Insaniat foundation (FIF), both of which have been declared terrorist organizations by the U.S. and the U.N. Security Council. Jamaat-ud-Dawa is widely believed to be the front of Hafiz Saeed’s Lashkar-e-Tayyiba (LeT) which was included into the U.N.’s terrorist groups list in 2005.
US ‘deeply concerned’
U.S. State Department spokesperson Heather Nauert said Saeed should be arrested and charged for his crimes. “The United States is deeply concerned that Lashkar-e-Tayyiba (LeT) leader Hafiz Saeed has been released from the house arrest in Pakistan. LeT is a designated Foreign Terrorist Organization responsible for the death of hundreds of innocent civilians in terrorist attacks, including a number of American citizens,” Nauert said.
India, which alleges Saeed was mastermind of Mumbai carnage in 2008, has also reacted strongly to his release. India’s Foreign Ministry spokesman said that a “self-confessed and U.N.-proscribed terrorist was being allowed to walk free and continue with his evil agenda.”
Some political analysts in India also seem to be agitated by Saeed’s release and say it will only further complicate the already strained relations between the two rival nations.
“His release only reinforces the popular belief in India that the Pakistani establishment is either not interested or it’s incapable of putting Saeed on trial in the Mumbai case,” Vinod Sharma, Delhi based political editor of the Hindustan Times told VOA. “In either case it increases the trust deficit between the two countries."
Insufficient evidence, says Pakistan
Lawmakers in Pakistan dismiss the allegations and maintain India and the U.S. provided insufficient evidence to put Hafiz Saeed behind bars or declare him a terrorist.
“The criticism by the United States is wrong and India’s anger makes no sense as Pakistan is a democratic country where courts are powerful and work with full authority,” Abdul Qayyum, a prominent member of the ruling party PML-N told VOA. “Until and unless there is solid evidence against Hafiz Saeed, how can you arrest or punish him? We have strict rules for terrorists and we do not spare them at any cost,” Qayyum added.
Some experts on South Asian affairs point out that Hafiz Saeed’s release orders came out within days after the U.S. Congress removed a provision from the National Defense Authorization Act 2018 that delinks Lashkar-e-Tayyiba (LeT) from the Haqqani Network to reimburse Pakistan for its cooperation in the war on terror.
Ashley Tellis, a senior fellow with the Carnegie Endowment for International Peace in Washington called the amendment an “unfortunate move." "It will give Pakistan a way to differentiate between good and bad terrorists and they will make less effort to satisfy the United States against the war on terror,” Tellis told VOA.
https://www.voanews.com/a/analyst-on...d/4137508.html
It was 9 years ago since the Mumbai terror attack, I remember watching " I'm a Celebrity get me out of here " and thinking that the contestants didn't know what was happening outside the studio.
Yep, same planet, different world.
When this happened, I was on my way to Nagaland. The yellowshits had the airport shut down and my friend and I were stuck in Bangkok. Ended up going to Koh Chang instead. Never made it to Nagaland. :(