well when she turned up we were poorer than France
Now we are richer.
She deserves a state funeral for beating the Frogs at least
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well when she turned up we were poorer than France
Now we are richer.
She deserves a state funeral for beating the Frogs at least
I disagree.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gerbil
There was no other choice but to elect the Tories with Thatcher in charge.
The Unions ran Britain, not the elected government.
The Unions had already brought down the Tories with Edward Heath in charge.
The Labour party with Harold Wilson and James Callaghan in charge was just a glove puppet for the Unions. The Unions supplied Labour with cash and votes. "He who pays the piper, calls the tune", and that was exactly what the Unions did.
The best thing Thatcher did was make illegal Union voting by a show of hands and flying pickets. She made secret ballots, law.
This took away the fear of the moderate, non-militant union members who just wanted to work to support their families, by stopping the intimidation by the die-hard unionists who could quite plainly see who was voting against them at union meetings.
The moderate workers and their families were threatened by these bullies which is why the unions were so powerful.
After secret ballots came in, the unions lost their power and common sense reigned.
I wouldn't imagin Phosporus to be used in hand grenades due to the inability to control it's dispersal. More likely to be used in artillery shells.Quote:
Originally Posted by DaveRobin
I know someone who was there. I think the 'grenades' were supposed to be used to mark landing zones or something. Anyway, there are pics on the net with argies who had phos burn right through them.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ivor Biggun
She busted the unions (excellent, IMO) and she handbagged all the losers. I admired her choices and yep, I paid council tax.
curbing the Unions so she could re-affirm her power is one thing, but destroying them so she could destroy their industries was despicable,
UK has lost a lot but you guys never realized it because you had your oil and Sovereign Funds that paid it all, a magic trick that only conservatives would pull
it might take 20 years, but eventually you guys will become desperate enough to fully join the EU and give allegiance to Germany and France,
She created the YTS "Youth Training Scheme" which is really a legalised form of slavery.
^^ That won't go down well, but IMO that's why they haven't joined thus far...
Great! The sooner the better. Boom tish!Quote:
Lady Thatcher to be Honored with State Funeral
Seriously though, I wonder what her supporters and the proponents of her 'tough economic love' programmes think about this use of tax-payer monies?
It's funny how some Americans have this "romantic" view of a PM, without having to suffer her for years,
another myth and other funny illusions they love to have, like they were living in Disneyland
The majority of the Brits hate her, and rightly so
Utter rubbish imo. It was just apprenticeships renamed. I was on an apprentice (YTS) carpenter and joiner course for three years. I got my qualifications free, plus a work placement. If you were any good, most employers topped up your wages. Once qualified, you could then go and compete against the big boys, and earn good money.Quote:
Originally Posted by Travelmate
Not reallly alot were only kept on for a short period. I did an apprenticeship whilst there was a lad that joined on the YTS. Needless to say I was paid more than that sucker for the same job and also he was shown the door once course was complete. It's cheap labour. period. You just got caught with it that's all.Quote:
Originally Posted by astasinimUtter rubbish imo. It was just apprenticeships renamed. I was on an apprentice (YTS) carpenter and joiner course for three years. I got my qualifications free, plus a work placement. If you were any good, most employers topped up your wages. Once qualified, you could then go and compete against the big boys, and earn good money.Quote:
Originally Posted by Travelmate
I did a YTS scheme that launched me on a new career which I'm sill pursuing today.
Crap!Quote:
Originally Posted by Butterfly
Thats why they voted for Major?
Strange - I would have thought the first duty of any Government should be to safeguard it people against any form of aggression, regardless of its origin.......:confused:Quote:
Originally Posted by Boon Mee
Amazing - in the rest of the world, water starts to turn to ice at exactly 0 deg C.......:rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by DaveRobin
But as DD said - don't let facts ruin a good story......;)
^^^^^^ (bloody connection)
A drop in the ocean compared to the wealth created directly and indirectly by her policies.
Anyway, the government spends tax-payers monies on things far more ludicrous than a state funeral.
I do see problems on the day though. Most Brits have a strong opinion about her.
Does that mean that Blair will also get one as he did 10 years too?
Maybe.
He also will be a historical figure. He finally made the Labour party electable again. He dropped many of old Labours dearly held policies that held it back ie. unilateral nuclear disarmament and nationalization.
Before Blair, there was an idealogical difference between the two parties when it came to ownership of the means of wealth creation (large public companies that provided necessary goods and services).
With Blair, the Labour party finally endorsed the free market, the importance of business interests and fiscal responsibility. Basically he nicked the Tory manifesto. He is a self confessed admirer of Margaret Thatcher.
they didn't vote for Major, she was ousted from her own party, the party voted for Major, not the BritsQuote:
Originally Posted by good2bhappy
John Major won the 1992 election when he was already leader of the Conservative Party.
Thatcher was ousted as leader of the Conservatives in November 1990.
we know but Butterfly is a Belgian so you can excuse him!
he did ? forgot about it, so yes, he was elected by the Brits thenQuote:
Originally Posted by Sir Burr
what a disaster he was,
^ Chairman of Surrey CC, Disaster?
^^ A Belgian waffler evidently.
^ did you know french fries come from Belgium?
And the mighty and noble duffle-coat.Quote:
Originally Posted by good2bhappy
And the saxaphone, I believe.
Liquid water is most dense, essentially 1.00 g/cm³, at 4 °C and becomes less dense as the water molecules begin to form the hexagonal crystals of ice as the temperature drops to 0 °C. IE between 0 and 4 C water is slush.Quote:
Originally Posted by WhiteshivaAmazing - in the rest of the world, water starts to turn to ice at exactly 0 deg C.......:rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by DaveRobin
But as DD said - don't let facts ruin a good story......;)
Basic stuff mate.
Lady Thatcher to be Honored with State Funeral
Ya Know, there is just a whole lot of supposition there,, Just suppose tho that there is no more UK or GB after the mossies take over the country, kill off all the royalty and turn the rest into servants and asslickers, and from the looks of things, it will not be to much longer before they do take over.
so they might just throw her carcas out on the trash heap.
No 'romance' going on here, B-fly. Just recognizing quality when we see it. The Hildabeast for example would have sorely loved to be looked-upon as Thatcher was but the quality is absent there. Actually, there's nobody currently on the political scene either side of the 'pond' with the cojones Thatcher & Ronnie had...Quote:
Originally Posted by Butterfly
Germany want the UK to join so we can put a halt to France's stupidity.Quote:
Originally Posted by Butterfly
Complete bollocks.Quote:
Originally Posted by Butterfly
You really don't know shit about anything, do you?Quote:
Originally Posted by Butterfly
^ typical arrogant know-nothing Brit holligan,
She was outsed by her party, then Major replaced her before the public elected the conservatives again out of fear for change,
I piss in your ass :)
^^Its a bit like the recent exposing of Butterfly on economic matters that I have done. I wonder what his specialist subject actually is...
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Originally Posted by Butterfly
There we have it. Specialist subject revealed!
Don't flatter yourself, and stop projecting. I might have been wrong about the "island" politics of the funny rosbeef people, but extending this to my disagreement with you and the exposing of your ignorance on these matters is a bit silly,Quote:
Originally Posted by bkkandrew
surely you can do better than that,
have you tried googling Econ 101 ? sounds like you need it
^^have you seen his posts in the computer forum????:(
^Yes..:rofl:
^^ you wouldn't know NickA, you are computer illiterate, and MtD is a fucking web developer, what does he know ? :)
just love to push ignorant twats like you and bkka, :1st:
of course you did stalker ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by bkkandrew
how about you do a nice compile for us, and see if you can debate or claim otherwise ?
Push? Push us where?:confused:Quote:
Originally Posted by Butterfly