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The UK is made up of England and a few small colonies, sooner we get rid of the whinging Welsh and the blood sucking Scots, the better
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The UK is made up of England and a few small colonies, sooner we get rid of the whinging Welsh and the blood sucking Scots, the better
Mate, Maggie's economy theory was so successful it created a whole new school of theory - Dutch [Elm] DiseaseQuote:
Originally Posted by Marmite the Dog
State funeral for the devil worshipers, street parties for the sane.
^
What do you mean by that?
Mai khao jai krup.:)
What about privatisation? An economic philosophy that spread around the world. First put into practice by Thatcher.
Yes, I realise there have been some dismal failures ie. British Rail.
But, what about companies that went from a drain on tax-payers money to become world class companies? ie. British Airways, British Gas and the BAA.
She was a supporter of Robert Nozik's Night Watchman State
From the NY Times October 15th 1995:Quote:
Originally Posted by Gallowspole
"NORTHEAST England is littered with dead and dying industries of yore. There are the coal mines, now just holes in the ground, that fueled the Industrial Revolution. There are the shipyards, now largely desolate, that helped Britannia rule the waves. There are the steel mills, now almost silent, that once roared with the nation's economic might.
But alongside those industrial dinosaurs, a new economy is emerging. Lucky Goldstar, the South Korean electronics company, just opened a gleaming new, $45 million television and microwave-oven factory in the area."
The full article:
http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9D00E5DD1039F936A25753C1A9639582 60&sec=&spon=&pagewanted=all
seeyountee ??Quote:
Originally Posted by Gallowspole
Is that glaswegian?
Two points is all you can get out in one breath? :)Quote:
Originally Posted by jandajoy
edited: I just noticed this goes on for 12 pages. I'm a bit behind the times. Sorry about that.
Quote:
Originally Posted by DaveRobinFrom the NY Times October 15th 1995:Quote:
Originally Posted by Gallowspole
"NORTHEAST England is littered with dead and dying industries of yore. There are the coal mines, now just holes in the ground, that fueled the Industrial Revolution. There are the shipyards, now largely desolate, that helped Britannia rule the waves. There are the steel mills, now almost silent, that once roared with the nation's economic might.
But alongside those industrial dinosaurs, a new economy is emerging. Lucky Goldstar, the South Korean electronics company, just opened a gleaming new, $45 million television and microwave-oven factory in the area."
The full article:
http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9D00E5DD1039F936A25753C1A9639582 60&sec=&spon=&pagewanted=all
I thought Thatcher was deposed of well before 1995.
She was betrayed in 1990
A bit too basic, apparently.:) Ice forms at 0 deg C, not 4. The expansion of water when cooling from 4 to 0 is due to the molecular structure of water (or more specifically the hydrogen bond), and has nothing to do with ice crystallizing.Quote:
Originally Posted by DaveRobinLiquid water is most dense, essentially 1.00 g/cm³, at 4 °C and becomes less dense as the water molecules begin to form the hexagonal crystals of ice as the temperature drops to 0 °C. IE between 0 and 4 C water is slush.Quote:
Originally Posted by WhiteshivaAmazing - in the rest of the world, water starts to turn to ice at exactly 0 deg C.......:rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by DaveRobin
But as DD said - don't let facts ruin a good story......;)
Basic stuff mate.
If you don't believe me, chill a glass of water to, say 2 deg C and see how many ice crystals you find.:rolleyes:
Doesn't Boyle's law also effect liquids changing state?
Remember Argentina ? didn't they privatize all their profitable industries by selling them at discount to dodgy business men ? the country went bankrupt shortly after. And obviously the British Rail disaster is now an annal case about the evil of privatizationQuote:
Originally Posted by Sir Burr
She was put to rest in 1990, the fucking bitch.Quote:
Originally Posted by good2bhappy
Nope.Quote:
Originally Posted by good2bhappy
You gotta love how on TD a thread on the politics and legacy of Thatcher* can evolve into a discussion of Boyle's Law.** :)
*Something I know little about
**Something I know even less about.
I thought there was a lot of gassing
I wrote that water starts to turn to ice at 4 C. It does. It may not be a solid until 0 C but that's not what I said but that's what are trying to say I said. You said it starts to turn to ice at 0 C and that's incorrect. You are suggesting that at 1 C water has no ice crystals but drop 1 C to 0 C and suddenly it's a solid - baa. Extremely frustrating talking with beneficiaries of Thatchers Care in the CommunityQuote:
Originally Posted by WhiteshivaA bit too basic, apparently.:) Ice forms at 0 deg C, not 4. The expansion of water when cooling from 4 to 0 is due to the molecular structure of water (or more specifically the hydrogen bond), and has nothing to do with ice crystallizing.Quote:
Originally Posted by DaveRobinLiquid water is most dense, essentially 1.00 g/cm³, at 4 °C and becomes less dense as the water molecules begin to form the hexagonal crystals of ice as the temperature drops to 0 °C. IE between 0 and 4 C water is slush.Quote:
Originally Posted by WhiteshivaAmazing - in the rest of the world, water starts to turn to ice at exactly 0 deg C.......:rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by DaveRobin
But as DD said - don't let facts ruin a good story......;)
Basic stuff mate.
If you don't believe me, chill a glass of water to, say 2 deg C and see how many ice crystals you find.:rolleyes:
From the Department of Energy United States Government:
"From about 4 C to water's freezing point at 0 C, the
molecules are no longer able to so easily slip past each other as they
did in the liquid phase. They begin to really "feel" the intermolecular
attraction of hydrogen bonding which occurs between the hydrogen atoms
of one water molecule and the oxygen atoms of nearby molecules. Thus,
they begin to take on an orderly crystalline arrangement that we
recognize as ice."
Link: http://www.newton.dep.anl.gov/askasci/gen99/gen99817.htm
"See you Jimmy"! was the expression I heard most often...;)Quote:
Originally Posted by DaveRobinseeyountee ??Quote:
Originally Posted by Gallowspole
Is that glaswegian?
...sometimes followed by a quick head-butt.:rolleyes:
^ahh, the good olde Glaswegian Kiss :)
Interesting that you left out the sentences which followed immediately after your quote, part of the same paragraph actually:Quote:
Originally Posted by DaveRobinI wrote that water starts to turn to ice at 4 C. It does. It may not be a solid until 0 C but that's not what I said but that's what are trying to say I said. You said it starts to turn to ice at 0 C and that's incorrect. You are suggesting that at 1 C water has no ice crystals but drop 1 C to 0 C and suddenly it's a solid - baa. Extremely frustrating talking with beneficiaries of Thatchers Care in the CommunityQuote:
Originally Posted by WhiteshivaA bit too basic, apparently.:) Ice forms at 0 deg C, not 4. The expansion of water when cooling from 4 to 0 is due to the molecular structure of water (or more specifically the hydrogen bond), and has nothing to do with ice crystallizing.Quote:
Originally Posted by DaveRobinLiquid water is most dense, essentially 1.00 g/cm³, at 4 °C and becomes less dense as the water molecules begin to form the hexagonal crystals of ice as the temperature drops to 0 °C. IE between 0 and 4 C water is slush.Quote:
Originally Posted by WhiteshivaAmazing - in the rest of the world, water starts to turn to ice at exactly 0 deg C.......:rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by DaveRobin
But as DD said - don't let facts ruin a good story......;)
Basic stuff mate.
If you don't believe me, chill a glass of water to, say 2 deg C and see how many ice crystals you find.:rolleyes:
From the Department of Energy United States Government:
"From about 4 C to water's freezing point at 0 C, the
molecules are no longer able to so easily slip past each other as they
did in the liquid phase. They begin to really "feel" the intermolecular
attraction of hydrogen bonding which occurs between the hydrogen atoms
of one water molecule and the oxygen atoms of nearby molecules. Thus,
they begin to take on an orderly crystalline arrangement that we
recognize as ice."
Link: http://www.newton.dep.anl.gov/askasc...9/gen99817.htm
The description above basically refers to the transition that takes place at 0 degress C.Quote:
The ice latticework simply takes up more space than the slightly more compact and disordered liquid state. Water expands when it freezes.
Water is unusual in this regard. Most substances shrink when they pass from the liquid to solid state.
When water cools it is a 100% liquid until it reaches 0 deg C. At that point ice crystals will start forming, and no matter how much heat you remove from it, the temperature will remain at exactly 0 deg C until all the water has turned to ice. Hence any mixture of ice and water will be at exactly 0 deg C. This is elementary physics, dude!
This is probably too complicated for you Dave, but if any readers should be geeky enough to be interested, here is a typical phase diagram (water shown as a green dotted line, most other mediums will have characteristics as the normal green line). Critical point for water is 374 deg C and 217 atm (bar), the triple point is 0 deg C and 6 mbar (0,006 atm). In other words, a phase transition from ice to water to steam (or the other way around) at atmospheric pressure would be a straight horizontal line just above Ptp on the graph below.
https://teakdoor.com/images/smilies1/You_Rock_Emoticon.gif
The transition from one phase to another, at a given pressure, takes place at one temperature only. Notice that there is no shaded transition zone - it happens at a particular temperature, which can be determined with great accuracy. For water at atmospheric pressure, the solid-liquid transition happens at 0 deg C and the liquid-vapour transition happens at 100 deg C.
Another decade of Thatcher and there would have been very few home owners left in the middle or working class bracket. The Assured Tenancy Business Expansion Scheme gave wealthy shareholders a massive tax break, and guaranteed returns while mortgage lenders had incentives to foreclose on anyone who fell even slightly behind on mortgage payments. It was becoming Dickensian.
I represented some of poor sods who were being repossessed and the wealthy investors who were picking up the handouts to grab their houses and the transfer of assets from the poor to the wealthy was becoming obscene. It was no surprise to see her replaced.
Only when her ghost is laid to rest will the Conservatives become electable again.
True, but some things will remain the same - like the freezing point of water at 0 deg C.Quote:
Originally Posted by Thormaturge
Just thought I should point that out.....:deadhorsebig:
Thatcher's legacy - leaving the Conservative party unelectable for a decade.
... and still they haven't twigged. :rolleyes:
Funny how they were elected after she left office!!!!!!!!!!!!