Gays are born gay

[dirtydog]

Scans see 'gay brain differences'

The study suggests sexual preference is set in the womb


The brains of gay men and women look like those found in straight people of the opposite sex, research suggests.
The Swedish study, published in the Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences journal, compared the size of the brain's halves in 90 adults.
Gay men and straight women had halves of a similar size, while the right side was bigger in lesbian women and straight men.
A UK scientist said this was evidence sexual preference was set in the womb.


Scientists have noticed for some time that homosexual people of both sexes have differences in certain cognitive abilities, suggesting there may be subtle differences in their brain structure.
This is the first time, however, that scientists have used brain scanners to try to look for the source of those differences.
A group of 90 healthy gay and straight adults, men and women, were scanned by the Karolinska Institute scientists to measure the volume of both sides, or hemispheres, of their brain.
When these results were collected, it was found that lesbian women and straight men shared a particular "asymmetry" in their hemisphere size, while straight women and gay men had no difference between the size of the different halves of their brain.
In other words, structurally, at least, gay men were more like straight women, and gay women more like straight men.
A further experiment found that in one particular area of the brain, the amygdala, there were other significant differences.
In heterosexual men and lesbian women, there were more nerve "connections" in the right side of the amygdala, compared with the left.
The reverse, with more neural connections in the left amygdala, was the case in homosexual men and straight women.
The Karolinska team said that these differences could not be mainly explained by "learned" effects, but needed another mechanism to set them, either before or after birth.

'Fight, flight or mate'

Dr Qazi Rahman, a lecturer in cognitive biology at Queen Mary, University of London, said that he believed that these brain differences were laid down early in foetal development.
"As far as I'm concerned there is no argument any more - if you are gay, you are born gay," he said.
The amygdala, he said, was important because of its role in "orientating", or directing, the rest of the brain in response to an emotional stimulus - be it during the "fight or flight" response, or the presence of a potential mate.
"In other words, the brain network which determines what sexual orientation actually 'orients' towards is similar between gay men and straight women, and between lesbian women and straight men.
"This makes sense given that gay men have a sexual preference which is like that of women in general, that is, preferring men, and vice versa for lesbian women."

BBC NEWS | Health | Scans see 'gay brain differences'

[Roc]

Does that mean ugly blokes like yourself
were born ugly!?

[Rigger]

So I guess I dont have to worry about catching gayness from all the pooves here then

[jandajoy]

Dr Qazi Rahman, a lecturer in cognitive biology at Queen Mary, University of London, said that he believed that these brain differences were laid down early in foetal development. "As far as I'm concerned there is no argument any more - if you are gay, you are born gay," he said. The amygdala, he said, was important because of its role in "orientating", or directing, the rest of the brain in response to an emotional stimulus - be it during the "fight or flight" response, or the presence of a potential mate. "In other words, the brain network which determines what sexual orientation actually 'orients' towards is similar between gay men and straight women, and between lesbian women and straight men. "This makes sense given that gay men have a sexual preference which is like that of women in general, that is, preferring men, and vice versa for lesbian women."

I wonder which way the good doctor swings.

[Loy Toy]

So I guess I dont have to worry about catching gayness from all the pooves here then

I'm gay about Lesbians. Does that make me a poove or I must have some pink brain matter?

[Bugs]

A group of 90 healthy gay and straight adults, men and women, were scanned by the Karolinska Institute scientists to measure the volume of both sides, or hemispheres, of their brain.

Hardly a statistically relevent study - 90 whole people scanned to compare four different groups (gay men, straight men, gay women, straight women).

[GooMaiRoo]

If being gay is genetic, wouldn't those genes have dropped off over the course of human history due to gay people producing less children than straight people? Just a thought.

[Rigger]

So I guess I dont have to worry about catching gayness from all the pooves here then

I'm gay about Lesbians. Does that make me a poove or I must have some pink brain matter?

Makes you a lesbian trapped in a pooves body

[Loy Toy]

So I guess I dont have to worry about catching gayness from all the pooves here then

I'm gay about Lesbians. Does that make me a poove or I must have some pink brain matter?

Makes you a lesbian trapped in a pooves body

What never had a "menage et toi" Digger and the 2 girls get it on and don't like.
Gotta luv it

Motor cycle fumes syndrome turns man's brain into moron thread.

[jandajoy]

I'm gay about Lesbians. Does that make me a poove or I must have some pink brain matter?

The sheer confusion in this statement suggests you've no need to worry about brain matter of any hue.

[Loy Toy]

I'm gay about Lesbians. Does that make me a poove or I must have some pink brain matter?

The sheer confusion in this statement suggests you've no need to worry about brain matter of any hue.

What exhaust pipe have you been sucking down lately Jangaloy.

Just joking man. My biggest fan returns. Hail Janga

[jandajoy]

What exhaust pipe have you been sucking down lately Jangaloy.

I refer you to my previous statement

[Mr Earl]

Not all gays are born gay, many are recruited from the ranks of disaffected heterosexuals in western countries populated by whining, demanding, perpetually dissatisfied wimen.

[Butterfly]

^ is that your coming out Earl ?

[Loy Toy]

A lotta of that type of grey matter floating around in Thailand.

Gay capital of the world, grey matter wise.

[ChiangMai noon]

nothing new here.

of course gay folk is born gay.

thought it was only the god botherers that thought otherwise.

[buriramboy]

I wonder if anyone who shags ladyboys would be prepared to undergo the scan to settle the arguement once and for all if they are gay or not???

[tsicar]

thank you for the informative post. i have obviously been fed incorrect information.
i am horrifiied to learn that i have been wrong all these years!
i was under the impression that the sex of a mammal was determined by things called x and y chromosomes, and by the presence of an appendage, or lack thereof in the groin area. so far have not heard of any scientist managing to discover a gay gene, nor does there seem to have been a gay chromosome, or wierd arrangement of x and y chromosomes discovered in gay people.
i doubt brain size has anything to do with it- we all know that women have smaller brains than men (medical fact, by the way) this makes them FEMALE, not gay!
i have met many men who i suspect have far smaller brains than normal, but not one of these has ever admitted to being gay, and none i know of seemed to display any feminine characteristics.
now, assuming that this new study is correct:
does this only apply to the "feminine" partner in an homosexual relationship? (you know, the one that does the bending over)
what about the guy who does the "fudgepacking"? is his brain normal size, or is he gay, too?
does this prove that gay people are stupider than straight people? most mammals are assumed to be more, or less intelligent depending on the size of their brains.
this study has me totally confused. can anybody explain what this all means, in english?

[Loy Toy]

I wonder if anyone who shags ladyboys would be prepared to undergo the scan to settle the arguement once and for all if they are gay or not???

Or too drunk and desperate to go out and find a new one and when you find out the chick you thought you brought back had a dick.
Like my mate in Bangkok said, "Just roll em over and give em one up the poper".
Wouln't call him a poove though. He is 215 kgs when I last saw him and at his wedding a few years back.

[Butterfly]

I wonder if anyone who shags ladyboys would be prepared to undergo the scan to settle the arguement once and for all if they are gay or not???

there is no such thing as heterosexuality or homosexuality, it's all human conventions, nothing to do with the reality of nature

[buriramboy]

I wonder if anyone who shags ladyboys would be prepared to undergo the scan to settle the arguement once and for all if they are gay or not???

Or too drunk and desperate to go out and find a new one and when you find out the chick you thought you brought back had a dick.
Like my mate in Bangkok said, "Just roll em over and give em one up the poper".
Wouln't call him a poove though. He is 215 kgs when I last saw him and at his wedding a few years back.

That wouldn't be Big Dave from Jools bar on Soi 4 would it???

[dirtydog]

Butterfly will be telling us next beastiality is a normal thing for someone to do

[Loy Toy]

I wonder if anyone who shags ladyboys would be prepared to undergo the scan to settle the arguement once and for all if they are gay or not???

Or too drunk and desperate to go out and find a new one and when you find out the chick you thought you brought back had a dick.
Like my mate in Bangkok said, "Just roll em over and give em one up the poper".
Wouln't call him a poove though. He is 215 kgs when I last saw him and at his wedding a few years back.

That wouldn't be Big Dave from Jools bar on Soi 4 would it???

Someone who resembled him I can only say.
Jools Bar WAS an open forum in itself. Things have changed a bit I have heard.

Bars open on the dark side tonight? Any Katoeys or gay brain matter people out that way floating around?

[jandajoy]

I wonder how many people get into being gay cos they find affection and companioship? Maybe the sexual aspects come later. What does "being 'gay'" really mean?

[Whiteshiva]

A group of 90 healthy gay and straight adults, men and women, were scanned by the Karolinska Institute scientists to measure the volume of both sides, or hemispheres, of their brain.

Hardly a statistically relevent study - 90 whole people scanned to compare four different groups (gay men, straight men, gay women, straight women).

I think you would find that 20-25 of each group would in fact give you sufficient data to be statistically significant, depending of course, on how these individuals were selected.