Thread: Bad guys really do get the most girls

Bad guys really do get the most girls

• 18 June 2008
• NewScientist.com news service
• Mason Inman

NICE guys knew it, now two studies have confirmed it: bad boys get the most girls. The finding may help explain why a nasty suite of antisocial personality traits known as the "dark triad" persists in the human population, despite their potentially grave cultural costs.

The traits are the self-obsession of narcissism; the impulsive, thrill-seeking and callous behaviour of psychopaths; and the deceitful and exploitative nature of Machiavellianism. At their extreme, these traits would be highly detrimental for life in traditional human societies. People with these personalities risk being shunned by others and shut out of relationships, leaving them without a mate, hungry and vulnerable to predators.
But being just slightly evil could have an upside: a prolific sex life, says Peter Jonason at New Mexico State University in Las Cruces. "We have some evidence that the three traits are really the same thing and may represent a successful evolutionary strategy."
Jonason and his colleagues subjected 200 college students to personality tests designed to rank them for each of the dark triad traits. They also asked about their attitudes to sexual relationships and about their sex lives, including how many partners they'd had and whether they were seeking brief affairs.
The study found that those who scored higher on the dark triad personality traits tended to have more partners and more desire for short-term relationships, Jonason reported at the Human Behavior and Evolution Society meeting in Kyoto, Japan, earlier this month. But the correlation only held in males.
James Bond epitomises this set of traits, Jonason says. "He's clearly disagreeable, very extroverted and likes trying new things - killing people, new women." Just as Bond seduces woman after woman, people with dark triad traits may be more successful with a quantity-style or shotgun approach to reproduction, even if they don't stick around for parenting. "The strategy seems to have worked. We still have these traits," Jonason says.
This observation seems to hold across cultures. David Schmitt of Bradley University in Peoria, Illinois, presented preliminary results at the same meeting from a survey of more than 35,000 people in 57 countries. He found a similar link between the dark triad and reproductive success in men. "It is universal across cultures for high dark triad scorers to be more active in short-term mating," Schmitt says. "They are more likely to try and poach other people's partners for a brief affair."
Barbara Oakley of Oakland University in Rochester, Michigan, says that the studies "verify something a lot of people have conjectured about".
Christopher von Rueden of the University of California at Santa Barbara says that the studies are important because they confirm that personality variation has direct fitness consequences.
"They still have to explain why it hasn't spread to everyone," says Matthew Keller of the University of Colorado in Boulder. "There must be some cost of the traits." One possibility, both Keller and Jonason suggest, is that the strategy is most successful when dark triad personalities are rare. Otherwise, others would become more wary and guarded

This is how it works;-- the arseholes get the girls pregnant and then piss off. Then the girls latch onto some shy type guy and bonk his brains out till he marries her and brings the kid up as his own.

After a few years the missus decides she would rather be bonking the arsehole type dudes again and cleans out Mr shy guys bank account, plus takes the house and kids.

Seen it happen many times.
These psychologists are only telling us stuff we already know, except they can put up statistical evidence to prove it where as we only have anecdotal life experience to go on.

I like bad boys! xxx

I like bad girls.

Bad girls get more guys, it works both ways.

I like good girls who fuck like rabbits.

What do ladyboys do then?

The tough guys get the sex and the soft guys get to take care of the kids for the next 15 to 20 years. You see a lot of it in Thailand too.

Thai lady talk;-- " I no like Thai man. Thai man butterfly. Farang man good heart".

^ Gotta spread some repo first.

Originally Posted by Rigger

^ yep like I say treat them mean keep im keen.
You have to give your missus a bit stick now and then other wise they loose all respect for you. You have to show them whos boss as they like a firm hand and like a man to make decesions for them.
Ask any middle aged guy in Australia that shaved his head, grew a goati and bought a harley. I bet they say they pull alot more woman now than ever before.
Anyway I better go hang out the washing

Have to agree with Rigger on this one.

Sean Penn and Jack Nickelson seem to do well (with the ladies) and are not adonis's but seem to have the right nasty charisma(excluding Madonna).
What was Sean Thinking?

Mines normally washed and hung out to dry by 7.00 in the morning.

Early starter I am told to be.

Guess I'm gonna try to be the bad one. The significant other got at least 7 sisters. (last time I counted anyway). I got my eye on at least 3 of them. Time to check out the "Bad guy" theory...

Originally Posted by Travelmate

Guess I'm gonna try to be the bad one. The significant other got at least 7 sisters. (last time I counted anyway). I got my eye on at least 3 of them. Time to check out the "Bad guy" theory...

First lesson and in your case.

Learn to sleep exclusely on your stomach. And get rid of the pigs and ducks if you have any.

Originally Posted by Loy Toy

Originally Posted by Travelmate

Guess I'm gonna try to be the bad one. The significant other got at least 7 sisters. (last time I counted anyway). I got my eye on at least 3 of them. Time to check out the "Bad guy" theory...

First lesson and in your case.

Learn to sleep exclusely on your stomach. And get rid of the pigs and ducks if you have any.

fair point. better hide the machete, knives, scissors and any other sharp edged objects before testing this theory out.

Originally Posted by The Gentleman Scamp

I like old girls. old girls had more guys, it works both ways.

Interesting thinking Scamp....

Originally Posted by Frankenstein

I like good girls who fuck like rabbits

Then they might have a chance to come as well....

Originally Posted by Travelmate

Guess I'm gonna try to be the bad one. The significant other got at least 7 sisters. (last time I counted anyway). I got my eye on at least 3 of them. Time to check out the "Bad guy" theory...

In all sincerity I would urge you to rethink your plan.

Fucking the wife's/partners sisters is most likely to cause a major family rift and could well result in your death as well.

Get your jollies outside of the family and do as the Thais do;-- lie and deny!
Its standard practice and your wife will understand despite the fact that she will feel its her duty to try and catch you out at every opportunity. That's just the way Thais are, they expect everyone is as lying and cheating as themselves.

But DO NOT fuck around with your sisters in law or the game will be for real and someone will end up getting hurt real bad.

Don't do it mate! It ant worth it. If not for your own safety, think of the damage you would cause to the family relationship between your wife and her sisters.

Originally Posted by Dalton

Originally Posted by Frankenstein

I like good girls who fuck like rabbits

Then they might have a chance to come as well....

Bad boys let their woman come. Never!

Pull out on their gravy stroke they do.

Originally Posted by Panda

Originally Posted by Travelmate

Guess I'm gonna try to be the bad one. The significant other got at least 7 sisters. (last time I counted anyway). I got my eye on at least 3 of them. Time to check out the "Bad guy" theory...

In all sincerity I would urge you to rethink your plan.

Fucking the wife's/partners sisters is most likely to cause a major family rift and could well result in your death as well.

Get your jollies outside of the family and do as the Thais do;-- lie and deny!
Its standard practice and your wife will understand despite the fact that she will feel its her duty to try and catch you out at every opportunity. That's just the way Thais are, they expect everyone is as lying and cheating as themselves.

But DO NOT fuck around with your sisters in law or the game will be for real and someone will end up getting hurt real bad.

Don't do it mate! It ant worth it. If not for your own safety, think of the damage you would cause to the family relationship between your wife and her sisters.

hmm words to the wise.