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    Quote Originally Posted by malmomike77 View Post
    there is risk in everything we do, being afraid to do anything because it carries risk is going to severely limit your enjoyment of life
    I would think the risk of him getting a slap every time he opens his stupid mouth probably makes him agoraphobic as well.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Backspin View Post
    Anyone who's watched more than 10 crash investigations will be thinking flap settings when they see this crash
    Originally Posted by malmomike77
    So because you watched some videos you feel confident in giving your opinion on a air crash?

    That is sad.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Backspin View Post
    ^ Anyone who's watched more than 10 crash investigations will be thinking flap settings when they see this crash
    Anyone that's watched these investigations will know that it takes more than one single event to end in disaster. They will also know that it's pointless guessing without some data.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Troy View Post
    Anyone that's watched these investigations will know that it takes more than one single event to end in disaster. They will also know that it's pointless guessing without some data.
    It's skidmark we're talking about.

    He's pasting someone else's opinions as his own. Again.

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    Well the investigation proper can begin.

    The black box and cockpit voice recorder of the plane that crashed in Nepal have been found, a Kathmandu Airport official has said.

    <snip>

    Teknath Sitaula, a Kathmandu Airport official, said the so-called black boxes "are in a good condition now. They look
    good from outside". The data on the recorders may help investigators determine what caused the plane to crash.
    Black box and cockpit voice recorder from plane that crashed in Nepal found | World News | Sky News

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    Quote Originally Posted by Troy View Post
    Anyone that's watched these investigations will know that it takes more than one single event to end in disaster. They will also know that it's pointless guessing without some data.
    What I said :

    The plane entered an aerodynamic stall. A flamed out engine shouldnt have caused this on its own

    My guess is that this plane was overloaded and had had technical difficulty and the pilots had the wrong flap settings in the moment

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    Quote Originally Posted by aging one View Post
    So because you watched some videos you feel confident in giving your opinion on a air crash?
    I have only been in one...security landing, so I guess the videos are my only foundation aswell
    Quote Originally Posted by Troy View Post
    Anyone that's watched these investigations will know that it takes more than one single event to end in disaster. They will also know that it's pointless guessing without some data.
    You can always guess
    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    He's pasting someone else's opinions as his own. Again.
    This is not my opinion then.

    As you posted earlier, it does look like the...was it Taiwan, accident.


    Flameout and wrong engine on idle ?

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    Investigation after near collision of two planes at New York’s JFK airport




    Federal Aviation Administration looks into close call on Friday evening between American Airlines and Delta aircrafts





    The American Airlines plane appeared to surprise a Delta aircraft accelerating for takeoff. Photograph: Eduardo Muñoz/Reuters





    Samira Asma-Sadeque
    Mon 16 Jan 2023 19.06 GMT













    The Federal Aviation Administration is investigating a close call at JFK international airport on Friday evening in which two planes nearly collided on the runway.
    The incident took place between a Delta Air Lines aircraft bound for the Dominican Republic and an American Airlines flight.

    At about 8.45pm, as the Delta plane was accelerating down the runway for takeoff, the American Airlines plane appeared to surprise it by crossing the runway ahead.
    In a statement, the FAA said that “air traffic controllers noticed another aircraft crossing the runway in front of the departing jetliner”.
    “Delta 1943 cancel takeoff clearance!” an air traffic controller announced twice.


    The Delta flight responded by slowing down and eventually coming to a halt. At their closest the two planes reportedly passed within just 1,000ft of each other.
    A passenger on the Delta flight told NBC News there was a “split second of panic” on board that sparked “audible reaction” from those on the flight.
    “I felt the adrenaline, and there was total quiet on the plane – and then there was relief when the plane came to a stop,” Brian Healy said.
    The National Transportation Safety Board (NTSB) announced on Sunday that it is also investigating the “runway incursion”.
    The Delta Air Lines flight had 145 passengers and six staff members onboard. After the incident the flight was postponed util Saturday morning, and Delta arranged for the passengers’ accommodation during the wait.
    Delta said it is cooperating with authorities in the investigation.
    “The safety of our customers and crew is always Delta’s number one priority,” it said in a statement. “We apologize to our customers for the inconvenience and delay of their travels.”


    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2023/jan/16/investigation-near-collision-planes-new-york-jfk-airport

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    Quote Originally Posted by helge View Post
    You can always guess
    I think the idea posted on pprune is the most likely scenario. The aircraft was flying its intended course to land on runway 30 when there was a late pilot decision to switch to runway 12. They were probably too high and too fast when the decision was made and bled too much energy in the turn leading to a stall. Pilot error.

    However, we shall see when the report comes out.

    ^ That one looks like a very lucky escape.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Troy View Post
    I think the idea posted on pprune is the most likely scenario. The aircraft was flying its intended course to land on runway 30 when there was a late pilot decision to switch to runway 12. They were probably too high and too fast when the decision was made and bled too much energy in the turn leading to a stall. Pilot error.

    However, we shall see when the report comes out.

    ^ That one looks like a very lucky escape.




    A mistake with the auto throttle settings or something , yes. But hand flying an aircraft into a stall like that , unlikely. (the ART doesn't have modern auto throttles but does have other systems similar to it)

    Like this.

    Last edited by Backspin; 17-01-2023 at 09:11 AM.

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    I was in a crash landing flying from Katmandu to Patna India on my second flight on a Nepalese turbo in the 1970s, walked off the wing and right out of the airport to the station, nobody dead, sued or badly injured, I think the wheel had failed to properly descend. No one checked the passenger list or entry, Loss of bags , I had none was causing a great brouhaha and head wobbling, those were the days. This was the least remarkable part of my path from Lumbini to Bhoddgaya which could fill a book.

    RIP to all the victims at least having recovered both flight recorders possible causes may emerge, bit like my lunch , too early to predict.
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    The co-pilot of Nepal's fatal plane crash had lost her husband who was a pilot in another Yeti Airlines accident 16 years ago.
    Anju Khatiwada, 44, was the co-pilot on Sunday's fatal flight from Kathmandu which crashed into a gorge in clear weather near Pokhara airport killing at least 70 people.

    Ms Khatiwada's career in aviation was prompted by the death of her husband Dipak Pokhrel, who died on a Yeti Airlines flight in 2006 which came down minutes before landing.

    Nepal plane crash: Co-pilot's husband also died in Yeti Airlines accident 16 years ago | World News | Sky News
    I'm not saying lightning strikes twice or anything, but...

    On 21 June 2006, when approaching Jumla Airport, Nepal, a Yeti Airlines DHC-6 Twin Otter crashed into the ground after the crew decided to abort the landing and perform a go-around for an unknown reason. Eyewitnesses said that the plane appeared to have stalled while making a tight turn on the threshold of runway 27 and ploughed into the ground in a ball of fire on the eastern edge of the runway.

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    Quote Originally Posted by david44 View Post
    I was in a crash landing flying from Katmandu to Patna India on my second flight on a Nepalese turbo in the 1970s, walked off the wing and right out of the airport to the station, nobody dead, sued or badly injured, I think the wheel had failed to properly descend. No one checked the passenger list or entry, Loss of bags , I had none was causing a great brouhaha and head wobbling, those were the days. This was the least remarkable part of my path from Lumbini to Bhoddgaya which could fill a book.

    RIP to all the victims at least having recovered both flight recorders possible causes may emerge, bit like my lunch , too early to predict.
    Did you piss yourself or anything

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    Quote Originally Posted by david44 View Post
    I was in a crash landing flying from Katmandu to Patna India on my second flight on a Nepalese turbo in the 1970s, walked off the wing and right out of the airport to the station, nobody dead, sued or badly injured, I think the wheel had failed to properly descend. No one checked the passenger list or entry, Loss of bags , I had none was causing a great brouhaha and head wobbling, those were the days. This was the least remarkable part of my path from Lumbini to Bhoddgaya which could fill a book.

    RIP to all the victims at least having recovered both flight recorders possible causes may emerge, bit like my lunch , too early to predict.
    On the hippie trail?

    Did you piss yourself or anything

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    Quote Originally Posted by Backspin View Post
    On the hippie trail?

    Did you piss yourself or anything
    Is he Indian?

    which leads to... the man from Wells Fargo

    Air India fined over 'peegate' scandal
    Drunk bank executive accused of urinating on female passenger but no action taken for weeks.
    21 January 2023

    Air India has been fined $37,000 for its handling of an incident in which a drunk bank executive was accused of urinating on a female passenger, Indian media have reported.

    The man allegedly relieved himself on the 72-year-old woman seated in business class on a Nov 26 flight from New York to New Delhi, an incident dubbed “peegate” by the media.

    The flight’s pilot also had his licence suspended for three months for “failing to discharge his duties” to ensure safety and discipline.

    The banker, Indian national Shankar Mishra, was allowed to disembark as normal when the aircraft landed in India and no immediate action was taken.

    The US bank Wells Fargo fired him from his job as vice-president of its Indian operations after the “deeply disturbing” allegations.

    Mishra has been refused bail. His lawyer, Ramesh Gupta, told a hearing last week that the woman, an Indian classical dancer, had in fact urinated on herself.

    Another inebriated man was accused of urinating on the blanket of a woman on a flight from Paris to India last month but no action was taken after he issued a written apology, reports said.

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    Kathmandu: The pilots of the Yeti Airlines aircraft that crashed in Nepal's resort city of Pokhara may have failed to fully deploy the wing flaps while attempting to land, leading to a stall, a media report said today.

    Failure To Deploy Full Flaps May Have Caused Plane Crash In Nepal: Report
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    Freaky new jet engines possibly in the pipeline...


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    Direct Flights From Chiang Mai To Osaka To Be Launched By Thai Vietjet

    BANGKOK – On February 16, 2023, Thai Vietjet will launch direct flights between Chiang Mai and Osaka, with fantastic promotional tickets starting at just THB 3,799 per person (approx.. USD 116.32).


    A321 aircraft will fly the new direct route, which will take around 5 hours to complete, between Kansai International Airport and Chiang Mai International Airport.


    Beginning on Tuesday, Thursday, and Saturday of each week, Thai Vietjet will run three round-trip flights per week, as per the following flight schedule:
    Chief Executive Officer of Thai Vietjet Woranate Laprabang said: “The planned new service launch between Chiang Mai and Osaka marks another crucial turning point for Thai Vietjet.

    Chiang Mai has long been recognized as one of Thailand’s top tourist attractions, along with Bangkok and Phuket. More than 10 million tourists visited in 2018, with more than 30% coming from outside the country.


    Despite an increase in the number, particularly in the post-pandemic period, there are now just a handful of direct international services that transport travelers abroad to Chiang Mai.

    We are confident that by introducing our new service at this time, we will be able to give Thai tourists a chance to travel to Osaka as well as Japanese tourists, particularly those from Osaka, the chance to travel affordably and in luxury to the lovely city of Chiang Mai.”


    Osaka is the second-largest city after Tokyo in Japan’s Honshu island’s Kansai area. The city is well recognized for its delectable local cuisine, retail districts, neon-lit neighborhoods, renowned amusement park, and many other things.

    Chiang Mai is a popular tourist destination due to its stunning mountain landscape and unique Lanna culture.


    Tourists can partake in elephant bathing in elephant camps, trekking through the jungle, and enjoying the peace at the summit of Chiang Dao Mountain, which is 2,195 meters above sea level.


    They can also learn about the magnificent Lanna traditional culture.


    Thai Vietjet announces an alluring special with prices beginning at THB 3,799 (about USD 116.32) (including of taxes and fees) to fly on Thai Vietjet’s Chiang Mai-Osaka flights in honor of the planned new service between Chiang Mai and Osaka.


    The booking window for the promotional tickets is from January 17 to January 28, 2023, and the travel window is from February 16 to October 31, 2023. (not available on public holidays).

    Thai Vietjet presently runs a daily direct flight between Bangkok and Fukuoka in addition to the Chiang Mai-Osaka service. During the Covid-19 outbreak,


    Thai Vietjet has been offering passengers the highest level of safety while operating at full capacity.


    To minimize any dangers to the health of passengers and employees, the carrier also rigorously adheres to CAAT and Thai Ministry of Public Health regulations when disinfecting its whole fleet of aircraft.

    Direct Flights From Chiang Mai To Osaka To Be Launched By Thai Vietjet

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    British airline Flybe has ceased trading and all scheduled flights have been cancelled.
    In a statement posted on its Twitter account Flybe said: "We are sad to announce that Flybe has been placed into administration.

    British airline Flybe ceases all trading and cancels scheduled flights | UK News | Sky News

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    The last 747 gets delivered today

    Boeing's last commercial 747 is set to be delivered today, more than 50 years after the iconic plane helped change air travel forever.

    Driving the news: The last "Queen of the Skies," as they're sometimes called, is a freighter variant made for cargo operator Atlas Air.

    Why it matters: The 747 — the world's first twin-aisle passenger jet — came to symbolize the era in which mass travel by air became not just possible, but commonplace.


    • Yet advances in airplane design and engine technology eventually led airlines to favor more efficient twin-engine designs, like Boeing's 777 and Airbus' A350.


    What they're saying: "On the ground, it's stately, it's imposing," Iron Maiden lead signer and — fun fact! — 747 pilot Bruce Dickinson told Reuters. "And in the air it's surprisingly agile."

    Yes, but: The 747 isn't disappearing from the wild blue yonder anytime soon.


    • Germany's Lufthansa and South Korea's Korean Air both still offer 747 passenger service — though many other airlines, like British Airways and KLM, have retired their fleets.
    • Cargo operators such as Atlas, however, are still flying their 747s.
    • And the president of the United States will keep flying on (heavily modified) 747s for the foreseeable future.


    The intrigue: Today's delivery comes at a sensitive moment for Boeing, which is still recovering from the 737 Max debacle and has suffered numerous delays in its Starliner spacecraft program.

    The bottom line: It's a big day in aviation history, and plenty of avgeeks — including yours truly — will be pouring one out in the 747's memory.
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    Quote Originally Posted by S Landreth View Post
    It's a big day in aviation history, and plenty of avgeeks — including yours truly — will be pouring one out in the 747's memory.
    Wouldn't call myself an avgeek but rather a very prolific busness traveller. My first flight on 747 was 1975. The size of it blew me away. The funky spiral staircase especially impressed.

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    ^I flew on one only once (don’t remember where or when) and it had a straight stairway.

    747-300

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    I have flown a Korean Air 747 twice in the last couple of months. I never pay attention to the airplane model before I board but when I get on it is alway a WOW, this is a big airplane!

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    Quote Originally Posted by misskit View Post
    I have flown a Korean Air 747 twice in the last couple of months. I never pay attention to the airplane model before I board but when I get on it is alway a WOW, this is a big airplane!
    Wait till you're sipping a cocktail at the bar on the A380.


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    Quote Originally Posted by aging one View Post
    So because you watched some videos you feel confident in giving your opinion on a air crash?

    That is sad.
    Looks like it was flap settings innit

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