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    ^ Apologies, I linked to the wrong emergency from OhOh, this is the one that was a non event...

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    Boeing 777 makes an emergency landing in Moscow after engine sensor problem

    February 26, 2021 3:48 PMUpdated 2 hours ago

    "A Rossiya Airlines Boeing 777 cargo plane made an emergency landing at Moscow’s Sheremetyevo airport on Friday due to a problem with an engine control sensor, the airline said.The plane was a 15-year-old 777-300ER, according to flight tracking website FlightRadar24, which means it has General Electric engines.

    Those are different from the Pratt & Whitney PW4000 engines under scrutiny after an engine fire aboard a United Airlines 777 on Saturday which prompted the suspension of operations involving planes using those engines.

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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    You forgot the skim.

    ....and the general ill-fitted Thai business practices.
    Can only subsidize quasi-royal projects for so long before the realization kicks in.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HuangLao View Post
    ....and the general ill-fitted Thai business practices.
    Can only subsidize quasi-royal projects for so long before the realization kicks in.
    Like giving all your mates free upgrades to business and first at the expense of paying customers?

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    London’s Heathrow airport will charge departing passengers an extra 8.90 pounds ($12.40) in an effort to claw back costs as the coronavirus crisis depresses air travel.
    The tariff is permitted by the U.K.’s aviation regulator under a protocol that allows the hub to cover costs for utilities, baggage and check-in services. Heathrow makes “zero profit” from such activities, with the fees covering operating and maintenance expenses, it said in a statement Sunday.
    Heathrow has been hit particularly hard by the pandemic since it relies on long-haul markets that have been all-but wiped out. The airport last week posted a 2 billion-pound loss for 2020 after passenger numbers tumbled 73%, a decline it says has left it unable to cover the costs of providing some services.
    The new per-passenger levy, or Airport Cost Recovery Charge, is due to be imposed for the rest of this year and was agreed with airlines as the preferred way for Heathrow to recover its costs, according to the so-called general notice dated Feb. 4 that details the price increases.
    Heathrow, controlled by interests including Spanish builder Ferrovial SA, the Qatar Investment Authority, private-equity firm Alinda Capital Partners and China Investment Corp., will also charge a 4.44-pound tariff for each item of passenger luggage.
    That sum is lower than one flagged on Dec. 16 as a result of some baggage-related costs having been included in the passenger levy, according to the general notice.
    The Civil Aviation Authority is separately considering whether Heathrow should be allowed to raise the fees it charges airlines on a limited basis prior to a longer-term regulatory settlement that starts next year. Heathrow has been seeking an adjustment it says would lift fares by 1.20 pounds per passenger.
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    Heathrow Imposes Passenger Charges to Cover Pandemic Costs - BNN Bloomberg

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    ^ On the positive side breathing is still free at Heathrow.

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    ^Unless you got under a Heavy cop... ("I can't breath").

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    Cat on plane to Doha forces flight to return to Khartoum

    A Sudanese flight crew was surprised when they found an odd kind of passenger was in their cockpit, half an hour after the Tarco flight took off from Khartoum International Airport bound to Hamad International Airport in Doha. It was a cat!

    A source told the Al-Sudani that the flight took off from Khartoum Airport, on its way to the Qatari capital and after half an hour had passed, a cat was spotted in the cockpit. It's alleged that the cat attacked the captain, which forced him to turn the flight back towards Khartoum Airport, in a unique incident.

    Information obtained by Al-Sudani revealed that the plane was standing in the hanger at Khartoum Airport the first night before it was to fly to Doha and, according to sources, the cat must have gotten into the cabin of the plane during the cleaning work or the engineering review of the aircraft.

    Cat on plane to Doha forces flight to return to Khartoum

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    Quote Originally Posted by lom View Post
    ^ On the positive side breathing is still free at Heathrow.
    It's just as well. People are complaining about queues up to 7 hours at Heathrow immigration. Seven hours! It's worse than third world.

    Heathrow Airport seven-hour queues '''inhumane''', say passengers - BBC News

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    ^^

    Part of a worldwide cat conspiracy:

    Cat on a fast train roof holds up London to Manchester service | UK news | The Guardian

    After a two and a half hours, the standoff came to an end when a bin was pulled up beside the carriage, giving the animal a platform on which to disembark.
    The feline appeared unbothered as it alighted the train, according to station staff, who described it as “swaggering off” into the night as though it had other places to be. It is still not known how the cat reached the top of the train in the first place.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shutree View Post
    It's just as well. People are complaining about queues up to 7 hours at Heathrow immigration. Seven hours! It's worse than third world.

    Heathrow Airport seven-hour queues '''inhumane''', say passengers - BBC News
    It's very simple: Don't go there.

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    Airline IT provider hacked, Star Alliance and OneWorld frequent flyer data breached

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    The hack of a company that manages ticket-processing and frequent-flyer data for major global airlines — including Star Alliance and OneWorld members — has compromised the personal data of an unspecified number of travellers.

    Key points:

    • Singapore Airlines, New Zealand Air and Lufthansa were among those affected.
    • Some airlines urged frequent-flyer customers to change their account passwords
    • SITA provides IT services for the airline industry


    The hackers were able to access some computer systems at Atlanta-based SITA Passenger Service System for up to a month before the incident's seriousness was confirmed on February 24, a spokesman for the company's Geneva-based parent company said.

    The spokesman, Sandro Hofer, would not say how many airlines were affected — SITA says it serves more than 400 airlines and is industry owned.

    The company said that Singapore Airlines, New Zealand Air and Lufthansa were among those affected.

    HERE
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    American Airlines Boeing 737 MAX flight from Miami safely lands at Newark airport after captain shut engine down due to a problem with oil pressure

    An American Airlines Boeing 737 Max made an emergency landing Friday afternoon at Newark airport in New JerseyNewark airport in New Jersey

    Pilots noticed a possible problem with an engine oil pressure indicator

    The plane was traveling from Miami, landed safely and taxied to the gate under its own power

    There were no injuries among the 95 passengers and six crew members

    Boeing Max was grounded worldwide for nearly two years after two crashes that killed 346 people

    Investigators have focused on a flight-control system, not the engines

    Federal regulators approved changes Boeing made to the flight system, and American resumed flying its Max jets in late December

    Since then, United and Alaska Airlines have put passengers on Max planes, and Southwest Airlines plans to resume flights with the planes next week

    American Airlines Boeing 737 MAX flight from Miami lands Newark airport after oil pressure problem | Daily Mail Online

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    Unsurprising when its been left idle for years.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wakey View Post
    Unsurprising when its been left idle for years.
    Unsurprising when minor technical problems occur pretty well every day in the airline industry. Do you not fly much?

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    I believe the saying is "beggars can't be choosers".

    The labour union at Thai Airways International (THAI) has lodged a petition with the Labour Ministry complaining about the struggling airline's new employment contracts, saying they are unfair and illegal.

    THAI plans to cut its workforce from 19,500 people to 13,000-15,000 within five years so the new scheme involves revising contracts while seeking 6,000-7,000 voluntary redundancies.

    Chansin Treenuchagron, the airline's acting president, said the new contracts were part of company efforts to restructure and come back stronger. The airline was asking for workers' cooperation.


    He insisted that those who agreed to the new contracts did not have to resign first, and said those chosen to continue working for the airline would have job security.


    According to Mr Chansin, the airline made sure the contract scheme was in compliance with the law and fair to employees under the current circumstances.


    Siripong Sukrakanchanachoke, the labour union president, and Nares Puengyam, a union adviser, met Labour Minister Suchart Chomklin to convey the airline staff's concerns about new employment terms and conditions.

    THAI's staff are being urged to agree to new contracts in which salaries and benefits will be cut. The new terms are part of the airline's efforts to reduce operating costs under its debt rehabilitation plan.


    Mr Siripong said the revised contracts were unfair and breached the State Enterprise Relations Act and the employees have no idea if they will be reassigned or where they will end up.


    Mr Nares said he warned those responsible for implementing the rehabilitation plan about changes which were not in line with the State Enterprise Relations Act.


    He also said attempts were under way to coerce employees into agreeing to the new employment terms. He warned that staff must not be forced or intimidated into agreeing to new contracts.


    Mr Suchart said the ministry would ensure employees' rights were protected. He said the airline's executives had guaranteed severance pay would be made to those who faced being laid off.


    THAI executives planned a staff meeting to clarify the new employment terms this week, so employees could make an informed decision about their future. Those who wanted to stay on with the airline would have to apply to do so between March 11-19 and the result would be announced on April 1. However, many THAI employees consider the changes to employment contracts as an attempt to force them to quit.


    Meanwhile, Apantri Charoensak, vice president of the Thai Labour Solidarity Committee, on Thursday led a group of Suvarnabhumi airport security guards to file a complaint with the Labour Ministry over unfair treatment.


    She said about 300 workers were forced to sign resignation letters between April 23-30 last year to ease job transfers from ASM Management Co to AOT Aviation Security Co Ltd. She said the transfer move was sudden and employees, who rushed to sign the new contracts as they were afraid of losing their jobs, found out later their years of service were not carried over to the new firm and the terms of employment were also changed.


    According to Ms Apantri, women on staff were not allowed to use toilets during their eight-hour shift and many suffered urinary tract infections as a result. They were also denied a one-hour lunch break. Those taking sick leave without a doctor's certificate would see their pay deducted while employees aged over 50 saw their leave days slashed from six days to four.
    THAI union says new contracts are illegal

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    Sobering news for millions across the globe..

    Unemployment impact of coronavirus on industries supported by air transport worldwide in 2020, by region (in millions)*
    Job loss in millions
    Middle East 0.9
    Africa 2
    North America 2
    Latin America 2.9
    Europe 5.6
    Asia Pacific 11.2

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joe 90 View Post
    on industries supported by air transport
    That's a fairly large umbrella.

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    They already have the FDR, so I don't know what this will add.

    Divers recover missing cockpit voice recorder from crashed Indonesia passenger jet

    The cockpit recorder was found near where the flight data recorder was recovered three days after the crash


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    Indonesian navy divers have recovered the missing cockpit voice recorder from a Sriwijaya Air jet that crashed into the Java Sea in January.

    If the recorder is not damaged, it may be able to help investigators understand the actions taken by the pilots before the accident. Officials said it could take them up to a week to be able to listen to the recording.

    The Boeing 737-500 crashed shortly after take off from Jakarta on 9 January, killing all 62 people on board. Navy divers had recovered the flight data recorder from the jet three days after the accident.

    Transportation minister Budi Karya Sumadi said the cockpit recorder was also found near where the flight data recorder was recovered. It was buried under 1 metre of mud.

    Divers had to remove debris and carry out “desludging” operations to reach the voice recorder, said rear admiral Abdul Rasyid Kacong, the navy’s western region fleet commander, according to AP.

    The recorder has been given to the National Transportation Safety Committee which is overseeing the investigation into the crash.

    Officials said they had planned to abandon the search operation on Wednesday if they hadn’t found the recorder by then. “There’s a mud sucker that works like a vacuum cleaner. We extracted the mud down to one meter deep. Last night, when it was the last night of the search, we found it,” the committee’s chief Soerjanto Tjahjono was quoted as saying byThe New York Times.

    A preliminary report from the National Transportation Safety Committee last month said that a malfunctioning automatic throttle may have caused the pilots to lose control. It didn’t conclude the exact cause of the crash.

    The lead investigator said at the time that the left engine’s throttle lever had moved backward on its own while autopilot was engaged, reducing the power output of that engine just before the jet plunged into the sea, according to AP.

    The Boeing 737-500 was out of service for almost nine months last year due to travel restrictions related to Covid-19. It only began commercial flights in December after inspections.
    Divers recover missing cockpit voice recorder from crashed Indonesia passenger jet | The Independent

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    ^ It will tell the investigating team what was happening in the cockpit at the time of the accident. The pilots appear to have been distracted, possibly looking for a route through the storms. Whatever the distraction, they failed to notice the throttle misalignment and the yoke moving to the right. They appear to have been caught by surprise when the autopilot tripped out and failed to recover the plane in time. Perhaps the team will discover something else that may lead to additional training being added to the syllabus.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Troy View Post
    ^ It will tell the investigating team what was happening in the cockpit at the time of the accident. The pilots appear to have been distracted, possibly looking for a route through the storms. Whatever the distraction, they failed to notice the throttle misalignment and the yoke moving to the right. They appear to have been caught by surprise when the autopilot tripped out and failed to recover the plane in time. Perhaps the team will discover something else that may lead to additional training being added to the syllabus.
    I suppose you're right but shouldn't that already be on the simulator syllabus?

    I flew that airline from Bali to Flores a couple of years ago on my Komodo Dragon adventure. The aircraft was a bit fucking tatty, maybe it was the same one.

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    Boeing sounds alarm on new problem with its troubled 737 Max, advises grounding of jets again

    9 Apr, 2021 14:32

    "Just a few months after Boeing’s 737 Max aircraft were allowed to return to the skies the company announced a new problem with the ill-fated jets, calling for dozens of planes to be grounded over issues with the electrical system.

    “Boeing has recommended to 16 customers that they address a potential electrical issue in a specific group of 737 MAX airplanes prior to further operations,”

    the Chicago-based manufacturer said in a statement on Friday.


    The multinational said it was working with the US Federal Aviation Administration (FAA) on the “production issue.” It also said that the problem doesn’t affect the entire fleet, but a specific group of planes.

    The company has pledged to provide further directions on “appropriate corrective actions.”
    “The recommendation is being made to allow for verification that a sufficient ground path exists for a component of the electrical power system,” the corporation said.Boeing neither specified which 16 airlines are affected by this alert nor disclosed the number of planes with the problem.

    The Boeing 737 MAX passenger airliner made headlines after two nearly new planes crashed within five months. The fatal crashes, which occurred in Indonesia and Ethiopia, killed all 346 people on board.


    The incidents prompted a lengthy safety review and all the jets were grounded worldwide for 20 months, from March 2019 through November of 2020.

    In November, the FAA cleared Boeing’s 737 MAX to fly, having approved the fixes that the manufacturer made to the malfunctioning safety system, which was blamed for the crashes. Several countries, including China, haven’t cleared the plane to fly yet.

    Boeing reportedly had to sustain damages exceeding $20 billion as a result of the tragedies caused by its latest generation, single-aisle workhorse."


    Boeing sounds alarm on new problem with its troubled 737 Max, advises grounding of jets again — RT Business News

    The Worst case:

    Top 16 airlines by deliveries:


    (Chinese identified airlines deleted, 0 flying)
    Airline Delivered
    Southwest Airlines[n 4] 60
    American Airlines 39
    United Airlines 27
    GECAS 25
    Air Canada 24
    Norwegian Air Shuttle 18
    Air Lease Corporation 15
    TUI Group 15
    flydubai 14
    Lion Air[n 2] 14
    Turkish Airlines 12
    WestJet 12
    SMBC Aviation Capital 11
    Aviation Capital Group 100
    Aeroméxico 60
    SilkAir 6
    Total delivered 452

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...and_deliveries

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    ^ From the Seattle Times:

    A minor change in Boeing’s 737 MAX manufacturing process that was insufficiently vetted caused an electrical system problem that on Friday temporarily grounded more than 60 of the aircraft — out of almost 200 MAXs that have returned to service since December.

    While this latest manufacturing flaw is unrelated to the flight-control system implicated in two fatal crashes that grounded the MAX for nearly two years, it slows the positive momentum that had begun to build as more MAXs took to the air and new orders came in from United, Alaska and Southwest.

    The problem, according to two people with knowledge of the modified manufacturing process, arose when a backup electrical power control unit was secured to a rack on the flight deck with fasteners — in place of the rivets previously used.

    This change was executed in such a way that it did not provide a complete electrical grounding path to the unit. The lack of secure electrical grounding could potentially cause malfunctions in a variety of electrical systems, such as the engine anti-ice system and the auxiliary power unit (APU) in the plane’s tail.

    Boeing said it discovered the issue “on a production airplane during normal build activity” and that inspections are needed to verify “that a sufficient ground path exists” for this control unit.

    The Federal Aviation Administration (FAA) said Boeing notified it late Thursday that it was recommending certain MAX airplanes be temporarily removed from service.

    After Boeing informed airlines late Thursday evening, Southwest grounded 30 of its MAXs. American grounded 17, and United 16.

    Boeing said 16 customers worldwide are affected.

    FAA spokesperson Ian Gregor said Boeing’s manufacturing switch from rivets to fasteners was “a minor design change” that did not require approval by either the federal safety agency or the internal Boeing organization that represents the FAA and assures compliance with regulations.

    This latest problem adds to the long litany of missteps currently afflicting Boeing.


    Manufacturing flaws have grounded more than 80 of the widebody 787 Dreamliners for months; design flaws mean the vision system on the Air Force’s KC-46 military aerial refueling tanker must be completely revamped; and quality issues have delayed the Starliner spacecraft program.


    And in a previously unreported problem, Boeing recently found a potential defect in a batch of 20 to 40 motors that move the horizontal stabilizer on all 737s, including the MAX and earlier models.

    New electrical flaw grounds more than 60 737 MAXs, adding to Boeing’s woes | The Seattle Times

    A manufacturing problem only affecting those aircraft that have rolled off the assembly line since the grounding...

    ...or as someone on pprune put it: "grounded because they weren't grounded"...

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    if electrical ground path was so important for the operation of this unit I would have expected dedicated cabling rather than rivets

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    Quote Originally Posted by baldrick View Post
    if electrical ground path was so important for the operation of this unit I would have expected dedicated cabling rather than rivets
    Ask yourself which is cheaper?

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    Quote Originally Posted by baldrick View Post
    if electrical ground path was so important for the operation of this unit I would have expected dedicated cabling rather than rivets
    In former times, bonding straps would have been used if a unit is secured with fasteners because they can become loose. They are not required if the unit is permanently secured using rivets.

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