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    The Boeing 737 is still a cable and pully aircraft. Its an antique piece of trash that should have been discontinued 20 years ago.

    Even the Russians have built a FBW midsized. Boeing should have purchased the MC-21 program from Russia



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    Quote Originally Posted by OhOh View Post
    Some have already ordered more economic planes to replace their less viable planes.
    They did that a long time ago. Now they don't have any money to pay for them.

    Delta posts $5.4B loss as coronavirus pandemic batters airline industry

    Delta's loss compared with a year-ago profit of $1.5B
    Delta posts $5.4B loss as coronavirus pandemic batters airline industry | Fox Business

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    Almost 5,000 Thai Airways International employees have signed up for the company's early retirement programme, as concerns mount over the airline's ability to reduce its operating costs to match falling revenues.
    The scheme had been welcomed by employees, almost 5,000 of whom have applied, the airline's acting president, Chansin Treenuchagron, said on Thursday. Applications for the scheme closed on Oct 28. Employees whose applications were approved will receive severance checks equivalent to 2-14.33 months of pay, depending on their position, in addition to other benefits.
    The airline's furlough programme, meanwhile, will run from Nov 1 to April 30. The programmes were among the ailing flagship carrier's efforts to turn its balance sheets around.
    Earlier this month, THAI announced that despite the fact that 80% of its 19,000 employees had agreed to pay cuts or go on unpaid leave, the financially-struggling airline only has enough financial reserves to last until December. As of the end of June, the company's debts stood at 332.2 billion baht. Its debt rehabilitation was approved by the bankruptcy court on Sept 14.

    Near 5,000 THAI staff to retire early

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    I missed this. Gosh, they'll just fly off the shelves. What a brilliant time to sell.

    Bankrupt Thai Airways International has put 34 passenger aircraft from its fleet up for sale, hoping to find buyers by Nov 13.

    Aircraft listed on the sale notice posted
    on its website include 10 Boeing 747-400s manufactured between 1993-2003, six Boeing 777-200s built in 1996-1998, and six Boeing 777-300s manufactured from 1998-2000.


    Others are six Airbus A340-600s built from 2005-2008, three A340-500s that left the production line in 2005-2007, two Boeing 737-400s made in 1992-1993, and one Airbus A300-600 built in 1993.


    The airline said it expected to deliver the planes to buyers by the second quarter of next year. The deadline for those interested in buying the aircraft is Nov 13.

    THAI did not provide other details.The sale is believed to be part of a plan to modernise the fleet.
    Thai Airways puts 34 planes up for sale

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    And there are other bargains to be had.



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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    Boeing 747-400s
    I want one
    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    The deadline for those interested in buying the aircraft is Nov 13.


    Do they come with cutlery ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by helge View Post
    Do they come with cutlery ?
    Yes, but with a surcharge...

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    Quote Originally Posted by helge View Post
    I want one




    Do they come with cutlery ?
    I expect they'd throw in some of that shit in my second post if you asked nicely.


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    30 year old planes . . .


    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    Gosh, they'll just fly off the shelves.

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    China not yet prepared to let 737 Max fly again

    By LUO WANGSHU in Beijing and AI HEPING in New York | China Daily Global | Updated: 2020-11-20 07:22

    "China's civil aviation authority said on Thursday that it has not yet set a time for the Boeing 737 Max to fly again in China, despite its US counterpart having given the green light to the jet's operation in the United States. On Wednesday, the US Federal Aviation Administration cleared the 737 Max for flight after nearly two years of being grounded following two crashes that killed 346 people.

    The jet was grounded around the world after an Ethiopian Airlines jet crashed six minutes into its flight from Addis Ababa in March 2019. That happened less than five months after another Boeing 737 Max flown by Indonesia's Lion Air plunged into the Java Sea in October 2018.

    China, with a fleet of 97 Boeing 737 Max jets, grounded the planes on March 11, 2019, the first country to do so after the crashes.
    With FAA approval, the first to fly the plane will be American Airlines, which has scheduled a 737 Max round-trip flight from Miami to New York's La Guardia Airport on Dec 29. United Airlines expects to schedule flights on the Max in late January or February.

    The FAA approval only covers US domestic flights, operated by American, United and Southwest Airlines. Flights to or within other countries, such as China and Canada, will need further approval by their civil aviation regulators.

    Asked when China would lift its grounding order, the Civil Aviation Administration of China said on Thursday that there has been no change in its position of late October, when Feng Zhenglin, director of the administration, said at a news conference that China will ensure there have been safe and reliable modifications made before considering allowing the planes back in Chinese airspace.

    Before that, he said, three conditions must be met:

    1. Updated designs must pass airworthiness inspection;

    2. pilots must receive adequate training for them;

    3. the cause of the crashes must be clear and modifications made that have proved effective.


    Senior Engineer Shu Ping, director of the Aviation Safety Institute of the Academy of Civil Aviation Science and Technology, said the US approval is a basis for discussion about China allowing the troubled jet to carry passengers again.

    "But the US FAA's approval does not mean other countries have to follow," Shu said.

    Canadian Minister of Transport Marc Garneau said the 737 Max will stay on the ground until several requirements have been satisfied.

    The FAA's approval order stipulates that before the plane can fly,

    the agency must approve pilot training procedures for each US airline that is operating it;

    planes must be updated with critical software;

    and its computers must meet FAA specifications.


    Investigators discovered that a safety feature meant to prevent the plane from climbing too fast and stalling had improperly forced the aircraft's nose down despite pilots' attempts to right it, causing the crashes.

    When the 737 Max, the best-selling plane in Boeing's fleet, does return to service, it will face an air travel market decimated by the COVID-19 pandemic."


    China not yet prepared to let 737 Max fly again - World - Chinadaily.com.cn



    Important differences in Chinese (passenger safety), ameristani (time is money,) and Canadian (awaiting "advice" from a foreign entity), stated requirements .
    Last edited by OhOh; 20-11-2020 at 08:33 AM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OhOh View Post
    and Canadian (awaiting "advice" from a foreign entity
    Where did you get that from?

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    Quote Originally Posted by OhOh View Post
    China not yet prepared to let 737 Max fly again
    But it's going to let its Boeing knock-off take to the air.


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    Quote Originally Posted by lom View Post
    Where did you get that from?
    Quote Originally Posted by OhOh View Post
    737 Max will stay on the ground until several requirements have been satisfied.
    Canada, a UK vassal and an ameristani pawn.

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    This is not to you lom.


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    The threat:

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    Am I bovvered by a banana republic peon with no balls, who crawls along the seabed eating algae.?


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    Aaaaaaaaaaaaaand off he waffles because his fairy story is pulled up again.


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    There's an app for that.
    Or there will be:

    IATA Travel Pass incorporates four open sourced and interoperable modules, which can be combined for an end-to-end solution:
    • Global registry of health requirements – enables passengers to find accurate information on travel, testing, and eventually vaccine requirements for their journey.
    • Global registry of testing/vaccination centers – enables passengers to find testing centers and labs at their departure location which meet the standards for testing and vaccination requirements of their destination.
    • Lab App – enables authorized labs and test centers to securely share test and vaccination certificates with passengers.
    • Contactless Travel App – enables passengers to (1) create a ‘digital passport’, (2) receive test and vaccination certificates and verify that they are sufficient for their itinerary, and (3) share testing or vaccination certificates with airlines and authorities to facilitate travel. This app can also be used by travelers to manage travel documentation digitally and seamlessly throughout their journey, improving travel experience.

    IATA and International Airlines Group (IAG) have been working together in the development of this solution and will undertake a trial to demonstrate that this platform combined with COVID-19 testing can reopen borders.The first cross-border IATA Travel Pass pilot is scheduled for later this year and the launch slated for Q1 2021.
    IATA Travel Pass set to help international passengers | Airlines.



    It would be nice to not have to keep my Yellow Fever cert stashed with my passport.

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    I'd be fine with that if it speeds (well enables) the whole travel process.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Plan B View Post
    There's an app for that.
    Or there will be:



    IATA Travel Pass set to help international passengers | Airlines.



    It would be nice to not have to keep my Yellow Fever cert stashed with my passport.
    Have you ever been asked for your yellow fever certificate?

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    Quote Originally Posted by panama hat View Post
    Don't certs about malaria etc.. have to be shown when entering certain areas? I'm not sure.

    Yellow fever? Maybe if you leave certain places in Africa that have the virus? No idea.
    I've been to Central and South America, the US and Europe and my yellow fever cert has never been mentioned. I always carry it with me though cos there are tales of people being refused boarding at the airport.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hallelujah View Post
    I always carry it with me though cos there are tales of people being refused boarding at the airport.
    Definitely better safe than sorry.

    I do believe this covid cert is going to be copied quicker than Skidmark saying something stupid.

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    Oh dear it appears the airline industry watchdog IATA suggests foreign countries should open their borders, without quarantine, to enable it's members to make more profits.

    Air passenger traffic (meaning PROFITS) won’t return to pre-pandemic levels until 2024 at earliest, IATA warns

    29 Nov, 2020 13:52

    "The Covid crisis has challenged the global airline industry to fight for survival in 2020, the International Air Transport Association (IATA) said this week. It added that the industry’s huge losses will continue into 2021.

    “This crisis is devastating and unrelenting. Airlines have cut costs by 45.8 percent, but revenues are down 60.9 percent. The result is that airlines will lose $66 for every passenger carried this year for a total net loss of $118.5 billion. This loss will be reduced sharply by $80 billion in 2021. But the prospect of losing $38.7 billion next year is nothing to celebrate,” said IATA Director General and CEO Alexandre de Juniac.

    He added: “We need to get borders safely re-opened without quarantine so that people will fly again. And with airlines expected to bleed cash at least until the fourth quarter of 2021, there is no time to lose.”

    According to the IATA, in the face of a half-trillion-dollar revenue drop (from $838 billion in 2019 to $328 billion), airlines cut costs by $365 billion (from $795 billion in 2019 to $430 billion in 2020).

    “The history books will record 2020 as the industry’s worst financial year, bar none. Airlines cut expenses by an average of a billion dollars a day over 2020 and will still rack-up unprecedented losses. Were it not for the $173 billion in financial support by governments, we would have seen bankruptcies on a massive scale,” said de Juniac.

    While the industry will see an improved performance in 2021 compared to 2020, “the road to recovery is expected to be long and difficult.” The association warned that passenger volumes are not expected to return to 2019 levels until 2024 at the earliest, with domestic markets recovering faster than international services.

    The financial damage of this crisis is severe. Government support has kept airlines alive to this point. More is likely needed as the crisis is lasting longer than anyone could have anticipated. And it must come in forms that do not increase the already high debt load which has ballooned to $651 billion,” de Juniac said."

    Air passenger traffic won’t return to pre-pandemic levels until 2024 at earliest, IATA warns — RT Business News

    Possibly the western financial elite would consider sharing their wealth with the desperate tourists/the worlds citizens, rather than buying up, for peanuts, the affected companies.Alternatively the airlines could pay the cost/accept the "repayable governments handouts" of the alleged 97% effective vaccines, on the table and being shipped today.

    Whats another 600THB loss per passenger, when their already losing 2,000THB per passenger, touted above. Along with the health insurance/funeral costs for the tourists and those the tourists infect whilst on "holiday".
    Last edited by OhOh; 29-11-2020 at 11:21 PM.

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    If that means cartel style pricing until 2024, fuck them.

    Mind you I have a wad of cash I would have spent on tickets in Moderna and Xilinx stock and XRP.


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    THAI Reveals New Flight Starting at Christmas- Chiang Mai, Bangkok, Phuket

    Thai Airways will resume domestic flights between Bangkok and Chiang Mai and Bangkok and Phuket from 25th December 2020 after suspending them for almost nine months because of COVID-19.


    The last time the national carrier flew from the capital to the two tourist provinces was 1st April 2020.


    There will be three flights a week, on Fridays, Saturdays and Sundays, on both routes and the new schedules will run until 28th February, the source said.


    He added that the flights would operate with the wide-bodied Boeing 777-200ER aircraft, with a full onboard service on offer and miles being earned by Royal Orchid Plus members.

    The resumption of domestic flights follows the airline’s announcement last month that it would be relaunching scheduled international flights from 1st January 2021 to 27th March 2021.


    It will fly one flight every Friday to Frankfurt and London, and a Sunday flight to Copenhagen and Sydney. THAI will also fly one Wednesday flight to Seoul, a Thursday flight to Manila, one to Taipei on Fridays and one to Osaka on Saturdays.


    Bangkok-Tokyo flights will be available three times a week, on Monday, Wednesday and Saturday, while the Bangkok-Hong Kong flights will be available every day.


    The airline is seeking to make up losses worth more than 300 billion baht in the Central Bankruptcy Court.


    Meanwhile, Somdet Susomboon, director-general of the Department of International Trade Promotion, says THAI will support exporting Thai fruit and vegetables to Asia and Europe until the end of next year under an agreement between the Commerce Ministry, the Agriculture and Cooperative Ministry and the Transport Ministry.


    Mr Susomboon said the major markets for Thai produce were Hong Kong, South Korea, Japan and Europe.


    Also, Pattaya mayor Sonthaya Khunpluem says the seaside town’s Fireworks Festival on 27th November – 28th November was a huge success, attracted between 100,000-200,000 visitors a day, boosting local tourism and resulting in 100% hotel occupancy rate.


    Mr Khunpluem estimated that during the two-day festival, about 2,000 baht was spent by each person per day, generating more than 400 million baht.

    THAI Reveals New Flight Starting at Christmas- Chiang Mai, Bangkok, Phuket | Chiang Mai One

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    Airbus has committed to equipping all of its in-production aircraft types with line-fit emergency locator technology (ELT) inspired by a European Union Aviation Safety Agency (EASA) regulatory mandate related to the disappearance of Malaysia Airlines flight MH370.

    Under a new agreement with Paris, France-based aircraft ELT manufacturer Orolia, Ultima-DT will be installed on a standard basis on all Airbus commercial aircraft programs, including the A220, A320 family, A330, and A350 according to a Dec. 9 press release.


    The technology will be installed on Airbus aircraft as part of a single source, multi-year program contract awarded to Orolia.

    As per the (ICAO) Autonomous Distress Tracking (ADT) mandate was birthed as part of its Global Aeronautical Distress and Safety System (GADSS) initiative and European Union mandate, all new aircraft delivered from January 2023 shall be able to autonomously report their location anywhere in the world and determine the end of flight location to help rescue teams rapidly locate the aircraft and recover flight recorders.


    Every Airbus Passenger Jet to Receive MH370-Inspired ELTs Beginning in 2023 - Aviation Today

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    Some positive news for Thai Airways for a change.

    British Airways has cut more than 15 long-haul routes that were due to operate next year.
    Destinations including Sydney, Bangkok, Kuala Lumpur, Seoul, Calgary, Abu Dhabi and the Seychelles have all been dropped by the airline.
    The carrier has been badly hit by the collapse in demand caused by the coronavirus pandemic, with long-haul routes the worst affected.
    Its owner IAG swung to a pre-tax loss of 6.2 billion euros (£5.6 billion) for the nine months to the end of September.
    British Airways cuts more than 15 long-haul routes including Sydney and Bangkok - Grimsby Live

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    FUCK ... deeper and deeper!

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    Boeing 'inappropriately coached' pilots in 737 MAX testing, US Senate report says


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    The Boeing 737 MAX has recently begun flying again after being cleared by the US aviation agency.(AP: Elaine Thompson, File)

    Boeing officials "inappropriately coached" test pilots during recertification efforts after two fatal 737 MAX crashes killed 346 people, according to a lengthy new US congressional report.

    Key points:

    • A whistleblower said Boeing representatives gave advice to test pilots in flight simulations
    • The report accuses Boeing and the Federal Aviation Administration of trying to cover up important information
    • The committee's chair said the report highlighted failed leadership and lack of oversight in the aviation agency


    The report from the Senate Commerce Committee raised questions about whether this year's testing of a key safety system known as MCAS — tied to both fatal crashes — was contrary to proper protocol.

    The committee concluded Federal Aviation Administration (FAA) and Boeing officials "had established a pre-determined outcome to reaffirm a long-held human factor assumption related to pilot reaction time".

    "It appears, in this instance, FAA and Boeing were attempting to cover up important information that may have contributed to the 737 MAX tragedies," the report said.


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