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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    Is it supposed to mean something?
    Your initial TD report did not identify the plane as a 373.

    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    The aircraft, en route from Dubai, skidded off the runway and broke in two at Calicut airport upon landing, India's aviation authority said
    Although in the original BBC article you quoted:

    The exact sentence was:

    "The Boeing 737, en route from Dubai, skidded off the runway in rain and broke in two after landing at Calicut airport, aviation officials said."

    White similar, Yellow edited,
    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    Kerala plane crash: Air India plane breaks in two at Calicut runway - BBC News
    Who has been editing?

    The BBC has not published it edited the article.
    Last edited by OhOh; 22-08-2020 at 09:19 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OhOh View Post
    Your initial TD report did not identify the plane as a 373.
    Well that's not really surprising is it?

    Did you read the link?

    Retard.

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    Five things to know about Thai Airways' rehabilitation
    Troubled carrier faces bumpy road, even if court approves process next month
    Five things to know about Thai Airways' rehabilitation -
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    I know it says "entire fleet" and then expands this to "entire Boeing 777 fleet" which is a completely different thing. It has 80 or 90 short haul aircraft. But still, that is a depressing long term view.

    Hit hard by the coronavirus pandemic, Air New Zealand has decided to ground its entire fleet for a year at least, according to local media.

    Air New Zealand said it is grounding its entire Boeing 777 fleet until September 2021 due to the ongoing impact of COVID-19, newshub.com.nz reported on Thursday.

    In March, the state airlines decided to cut 3,750 jobs, nearly 30% of its 12,500-strong workforce.

    New Zealand has 1,792 coronavirus cases, including 120 active cases and 39 imported as well as 24 fatalities.


    The pandemic has hit the country’s economy, badly affecting businesses.


    The data released by the government in June for first quarter of the current fiscal showed New Zealand's economy shrunk by 1.6% -- the largest drop in 29 years.


    The Organization for Economic Co-operation and Development (OECD) in its latest report praised the government’s swiftness in suppressing the coronavirus but said the country’s economy would be among the worst hit by the pandemic.


    The OECD report warned that New Zealand’s gross domestic product (GDP) is expected to shrink by nearly 9% this year.


    However, interestingly, Statistics New Zealand last month said the unemployment rate had fallen to 4%, down from 4.2%.


    The pandemic has hit most of the countries globally, and only China has performed growth in the post-coronavirus period.


    The virus has claimed more than 905,000 lives in 188 countries and regions since it broke out in China in December. The US, Brazil and India are currently the worst-hit countries.


    Nearly 28 million COVID-19 cases have been reported worldwide, with recoveries surpassing 18.81 million, according to figures compiled by the US’ Johns Hopkins University.
    Coronavirus: Air New Zealand grounds entire fleet

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    The Honest Pre-flight Safety Demonstration. Not the one the air lines how you





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    Oh my word. They should really be taking an arse-reaming for that.

    Two fatal crashes of Boeing 737 Max aircraft were partly due to the plane-maker's unwillingness to share technical details, a congressional investigation has found.

    It blames a "culture of concealment" at Boeing, but says the regulatory system was also "fundamentally flawed".
    Boeing said it had "learned many hard lessons" from the accidents.

    But families of the victims accused the company and the regulator of continuing to hide information.


    The US report
    is highly critical of both Boeing and the regulator, the Federal Aviation Authority (FAA).


    "Boeing failed in its design and development of the Max, and the FAA failed in its oversight of Boeing and its certification of the aircraft," the 18-month investigation concluded.


    The Boeing 737 Max has been grounded since March 2019 after two crashes, in Indonesia and Ethiopia, caused the deaths of 346 people.


    The nearly 250-page report found a series of failures in the plane's design, combined with "regulatory capture", an overly close relationship between Boeing and the federal regulator, which compromised the process of gaining safety certification.


    "[The crashes] were the horrific culmination of a series of faulty technical assumptions by Boeing's engineers, a lack of transparency on the part of Boeing's management, and grossly insufficient oversight by the FAA."
    Boeing's 'culture of concealment' to blame for 737 crashes - BBC News

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    Air Asia is branching out to make ends meet:

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    It's terrible, would not recommend a listen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Plan B View Post
    It's terrible, would not recommend a listen.
    Maybe you could set it to a Youtube dog walking video.

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    Now you can check if your flight is on a flying coffin.

    The British Airline Pilots' Association (BALPA) has told American aviation regulators that the Boeing 737 Max needs better fixes for its infamous MCAS software, warning that a plane crash which killed 149 people could happen again.
    Airlines, in contrast, are broadly happy with proposed changes to the Boeing 737 Max, even as trade unions bellow at the US Federal Aviation Administration (FAA) that more needs to be done.
    In public comments submitted to the FAA's notice of proposed rulemaking (NPRM), BALPA warned that one of the proposed workarounds for a future MCAS failure could lead to a repeat of the crash of Ethiopian Airlines flight ET302.
    MCAS – Manoeuvring Characteristics Augmentation System – is a software system intended to counteract the effect of hanging bigger and more powerful engines off the Boeing 737 airframe. The new engines gave the airliner different flying characteristics from previous models. With Boeing relying on regulators certifying the 737 Max as an incremental advance rather than a whole new design, MCAS was necessary to get it through FAA certification without regulators imposing expensive training requirements on the new aircraft before pilots could fly it.
    The NPRM, published here, proposes various fixes to the 737 Max design, its software and procedures for pilots to follow in the event of a problem. One of those procedures includes disabling the airliner's automatic trim system, operated by MCAS when the software kicks in, and having the two pilots use a manual backup trim wheel instead of the aircraft's powerful electric motors.
    BALPA said: "Requiring both crew members to turn the trim wheel simultaneously in a non-normal scenario is extremely undesirable and goes against all philosophies of having one pilot fly and one run the QRH [quick reference handbook: reading out the emergency checklist]. No flight control system should require both pilots to operate it at any stage, let alone in an emergency."
    The trade union added: "It is felt that this should be reconsidered (particularly in light of the smaller diameter trim wheel as fitted to the MAX to enable the new larger screens to fit, and as per the scenario observed in the Ethiopian Airlines accident).
    ET302 crashed after its pilots, who were fully aware of MCAS after the earlier crash of Lion Air flight 610 (the first 737 Max crash), tried without success to override the flawed software system. MCAS works by automatically trimming the 737 Max's nose downwards if it senses that the aircraft is about to stall, a dangerous condition that normally comes about when the nose is pointing too high and the speed is too low. In ET302's case that MCAS activation was false, however.
    Its pilots disabled electric trim motors that had been activated by MCAS and, crash investigators believed, tried to use the manual trim wheel in the cockpit to physically undo what the software had done – following Boeing procedures published after the Lion Air crash. Thanks to the aircraft's excessive speed, built up as MCAS forced its nose to point downwards at the ground, the pilots were unsuccessful. Aerodynamic forces on the control surfaces made it impossible for them to rotate the trim wheel and point the airliner's nose back at the sky.
    Meanwhile, back with the FAA's NPRM, the Joint European Max Operators' Group, which includes Ryanair, Norwegian, and Tui, among other airlines, made some minor suggestions for textual edits while reassuring the FAA that they "are not intended to impact on the planned RTS [return to service] programme" for the 737 Max. Some airlines believe all will be well when their Maxes are allowed to fly again. ®
    Bootnote

    The 737 Max will be known as the 737-7, 737-8 and 737-9. In Ryanair's case it will be known as the 737-8200, a reference to the base -8 Max model having been fettled to fit 200 seats rather than the stock -8's 180ish.

    International Air Transport Association aeroplane type codes will be B37M, B38M and B39M should you want to avoid booking a flight on one.
    https://www.theregister.com/2020/09/...max_faa_balpa/

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    OCPB helping customers receive refunds on canceled flights

    BANGKOK(NNT)-In response to flight cancellations due to the COVID-19 situation, many customers have received refunds from airlines, thanks to the Office of the Consumer Protection Board (OCPB), as the agency is following up on related legal issues.


    The Prime Minister’s Office Minister, Anucha Nakasai, who oversees the OCPB, today attended the 6th OCPB meeting of 2020. The meeting discussed consumer complaints about airlines, after their flights were canceled because of the pandemic.


    Mr. Anucha said after the meeting that the OCPB had held discussions with airline operators regarding refunds, while representing consumers in legal action. He also delivered his work policy to the OCPB and urged the agency to work more proactively and to exercise Section 21 to help speed up the investigation of consumer complaints.


    In 2019, the OCPB was able to help more than 10,000 consumers receive refunds worth over 100 million baht in total.

    National News Bureau Of Thailand

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    Short documentary report on 2013 intentional plane crash. There are some fuct up individuals in this world.. This was before the depressed queer kraut crashed the GermanWings place in the same manner.

    This incident just never made international news. If it did, then the GermanWings crash could have been avoided

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    If you thought the flights to nowhere were silly, try Singapore Airlines.

    They are going to charge you for eating on the plane without it even leaving the ground.

    Singapore Airlines To Launch Stationary A380 Plane Restaurant - Simple Flying

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    Airline food in cramped seating - where do I sign ?

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    Hungry Antonov munches UK America's Cup hull.

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    Should be an exhilarating sight tinged with an element of sadness.

    "It was like landing a block of flats from the 2nd floor" indeed.

    LONDON (Reuters) – British Airways will bid farewell to its final London-based Boeing 747s on Thursday with a rare synchronised dual take off for the “Queen of the Skies”, the jet which brought long-haul flights to the masses.

    Once the world’s largest operator of the 747, BA has now retired its entire jumbo jet fleet after the COVID-19 pandemic curtailed most air travel, accelerating the move to more fuel-efficient planes.

    Chief Executive Alex Cruz said it would “be a difficult day for everybody at British Airways as the aircraft leaves our home at Heathrow for the very last time.”


    For over 50 years, the 747 has been the world’s most easily recognised jetliner with its humped fuselage, four engines and 16 main wheels.


    It took its maiden flight in 1969 and soon secured its place in history as the jet which allowed more affordable air travel due its size and range.


    Passengers have included John Paul II, who arrived for the first visit to Ireland by a pope on an Aer Lingus 747 in 1979. Ayatollah Ruhollah Khomeini returned to Iran from exile on an Air France jumbo during the same year’s Islamic Revolution.


    BA’s predecessor airline BOAC first introduced the 747 on the London-New York route in 1971, and at its peak BA had a fleet of 57 747-400s.


    Former pilots have relayed how the jet initially took some getting used to, from a cockpit positioned almost 30 feet above the ground and more when angling the nose higher just before touching the runway.


    “It was like landing a block of flats from the 2nd floor,” Hugh Dibley, a former BOAC captain, told Reuters.


    On Thursday the final two 747s will take off from Heathrow at 0730 GMT with a rarely seen synchronised dual take off on parallel runways before one conducts a fly-past along the southerly runway, weather permitting.


    BA’s Cruz said the company wanted to pay tribute to the jets and the millions of customers and BA colleagues who had flown on them.


    The owner of British Airways, IAG <ICAG.L>, is battling to survive after the pandemic wiped out much of the global flying market.
    BA's jumbos bid farewell with rare dual take off for 'Queen of the Skies' - Metro US

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    British Airways will bid farewell to its final London-based Boeing 747s on Thursday with a rare synchronised dual take off for the “Queen of the Skies”, the jet which brought long-haul flights to the masses.
    They lied. They took off one after the other.

    Disappointing.

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    Tit? Tit you say? Have some Tat!

    BRUSSELS/PARIS/WASHINGTON (Reuters) - The European Union on Tuesday won the right to impose tariffs on $4 billion of U.S. goods in retaliation against subsidies for planemaker Boeing BA.N - deepening a record trade spat that has already prompted Washington to slap duties on EU imports.


    EU wins tariff clearance on $4 billion of U.S. imports in Boeing case | Reuters

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    Boeing had 161,000 employees at the start of the year. WIthin a few months they will be reduced to 20,000. This is from my mate who is rather high up in Boeing. The Subsidies are not being used to keep people off of the streets and in work.

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    Airlines won't be able to fill the aircraft they've already got for the foreseeable future.

    Why would they buy new ones?

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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    Airlines won't be able to fill the aircraft they've already got for the foreseeable future.

    Why would they buy new ones?
    and if they would, would they then buy the Boeing 737MCAS?

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    Quote Originally Posted by pseudolus View Post
    Boeing had 161,000 employees at the start of the year. WIthin a few months they will be reduced to 20,000. This is from my mate who is rather high up in Boeing. The Subsidies are not being used to keep people off of the streets and in work.
    Are you sure that shouldn't read, Reduced by 20,000? They are down to 145k now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Troy View Post
    Are you sure that shouldn't read, Reduced by 20,000? They are down to 145k now.
    Globally down to 20,000.

    The position is clearly one to get more money and another war. After all, less than 50% of Boeing revenue comes from commercial aircraft.

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    Just beginning to understand how systems of Corpocracy work, are we?

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    Quote Originally Posted by pseudolus View Post
    Globally down to 20,000.

    The position is clearly one to get more money and another war. After all, less than 50% of Boeing revenue comes from commercial aircraft.
    Nutjob's off his meds again.



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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    Airlines won't be able to fill the aircraft they've already got for the foreseeable future.

    Why would they buy new ones?
    Some have already ordered more economic planes to replace their less viable planes.

    Quote Originally Posted by aging one View Post
    Over a billion people, hundreds of new airports coming online, so the next step
    AO was illustrating the Chinese markets potential growth.

    To illustrate China's position here is Boeings forecast for new plane purchase over the next 20 years. It's an annual forecast produced every year to illustrate the normal Boeing v Airbus competition.

    Airbus have yet to release their annual forecast.

    Pontifications: Boeing’s latest forecast raises more doubt than hope

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    At the top is China, the only individual country that Boeing is forecasting positive new sales growth.

    The author of the article suggests Boeing's numbers are somewhat overstated to placate Boeing's shareholders.

    "Demand for new aircraft will not stay depressed permanently – this is a certainty. But troubling details in Boeing’s latest forecast make it clear the CMO is an aspirational guide, not one for planning."

    The article can be found here for more breakdowns of the forecast details;

    Pontifications: Boeing’s latest forecast raises more doubt than hope - Leeham News and Analysis

    There are many posts and educated readers discussions at the Leeham site regarding the economics of replacing planes.

    Leeham News and Analysis - There's more to real news than a news release.
    Last edited by OhOh; 14-10-2020 at 11:44 PM.

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