Thread: Israel launches preemptive strikes on Iran

‘We Now Have Complete And Total Control’: Trump Confirms U.S. is Part of Conflict With Iran

President Donald Trump appeared to offer confirmation that the United States is now participating in Israel’s attack on Iran in a Tuesday social media post.


Amid escalating tensions and the exchange of bombings after Israel attacked Iranian nuclear facilities last week, Trump has faced questions about the extent of U.S. involvement in the conflict. In a new post on Truth Social using the term “We,” Trump wrote: “We now have complete and total control of the skies over Iran. Iran had good sky trackers and other defensive equipment, and plenty of it, but it doesn’t compare to American made, conceived, and manufactured “stuff.” Nobody does it better than the good ol’ USA.”

Politico White House reporter Jake Traylor confirmed with a White House official that “we” in Trump’s post is indeed referring to the United States.

The Trump administration was initially wary of Israel’s strikes that set off the latest round of fighting, with Secretary of State Marco Rubio was quick to insist that Israel acted “unilaterally.” Yet as the White House realized the strikes had been a success, Trump publicly backed Israel’s escalation, according to the New York Times.


The conflict has sparked a bitter debate within Trump’s MAGA movement — between the pro-Israel hawks who want to see war with Iran and the America First isolationists who argue Trump ran on ending U.S. involvement in foreign wars.


This new social media post taking credit for seizing control of Iranian skies will do little to disabuse the world that the United States is inching towards greater involvement in this war.


UPDATE 12:30 p.m.: Minutes after publishing, Trump added in another post to social media: “UNCONDITIONAL SURRENDER!”

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Iranian news outlet claims Iran has launched Fattah missiles toward Israel

Iran’s semi-official Mehr News Agency claims Iran has launched Fattah missiles toward Israel.


CNN cannot verify the claim.


What is that missile? Last year, Iranian media reported that Tehran used a new missile, the Fattah-1, in its attacks on Israel at the time. Tehran describes the Fattah-1 as a “hypersonic” missile – meaning it travels at Mach 5, or five times the speed of sound (about 3,800 miles per hour, 6,100 kilometers per hour).


But analysts point out that almost all ballistic missiles reach hypersonic speed during their flights, especially as they dive towards their targets.


Fabian Hinz, a research fellow at the International Institute for Strategic Studies, who wrote on the subject, said the Fattah-1 appears to have a warhead on a “maneuverable reentry vehicle,” which enables it to make adjustments to avoid missile defenses during a short portion of its dive to its target.

Live updates: Israel-Iran missile attacks, strikes on Tehran and Trump weighs US options | CNN

Just saw on the news some serious US military hardware is on the way to the Middle East. The Nimitz, strato tankers, and stealth bombers loaded with bunker busters among the arms.

The leaders want to live like they're in the Stone Age, seems like they're about to get their wish.


Another 20 years of military machinery and rebuilding contracts about to be sold in the US.

Originally Posted by malmomike77

If it makes you feel better, I bet city you are staying in has killed only marginally less migrant labour building the shitehole than Israel has so far killed

That’s a tu quoque fallacy.

Originally Posted by bsnub

They were attacked, you fucking mong. Defensive operations are ongoing. Attacking and wiping out terrorist scum and the government that support them.

You do realise what a preemptive strike is?

So sad.

Off to hang out with the child rapist they adore.

Some news outlets have been critical of Trump for apparently engaging in the Iran conflict, against his stated policy of military conservatism and geo-political isolationism. They are also saying it will fracture his base.

It is kind hard for Trump to win with the media and his detractors if he gets damned either way.

I think he was more referring to 'boots on the ground' when he criticised and rejected the neo-con stance of previous US military interventionism. I think bombing campaigns are still acceptable in his view.

I will be happy if the Iranian regime is stopped from further development of nuclear weapons by a US military show of force. The policy of appeasement has been an abysmal failure.

Originally Posted by bsnub

Iranians cheering and chanting "This is the final battle, Pahlavi will return." in the streets of Tehran. Pahlavi is the former Shah of Iran...

Even happier if the military action becomes a catalyst for regime change.

^^^^

Mohamad safa is a clown and a lair. Nothing he posts on Twitter is anywhere close to being based in reality. No wonder you swallow his lies, Willy. Your credibility has hit a rock bottom. You clearly support the IRGC terrorists, even though the Iranian people clearly want them gone. Utterly pathetic.

Originally Posted by Looper

Some news outlets have been critical of Trump for apparently engaging in the Iran conflict

That fat orange clown was not involved in the operation and Israel most definitely did not inform him about it because that administration of bozo's is not to be trusted. Now that he sees, the Israelis have been successful in Iran he is trying to ride Bennie Netanyahu's coat tails to take credit if in fact Khomeini is killed.

Reza Pahlavi, Crown Prince of Iran, speaks about the path to transitioning Iran to a democracy after the fall of the current regime...

The Islamic Republic in Iran is collapsing. When it does, we have a plan to transition our country to the democracy the Iranian people deserve.

https://x.com/PahlaviReza/status/1934975735875453014

Originally Posted by bsnub

Reza Pahlavi, Crown Prince of Iran, speaks about the path to transitioning Iran to a democracy after the fall of the current regime...

Let's hope it is the first of many in the region over the coming decade(s).

Originally Posted by taxexile

this chance to rid iran of these theocratic tyrants must be grabbed.

Not according to Willy and his ilk. They support these regimes.

Originally Posted by Edmond

Let's hope it is the first of many in the region over the coming decade(s).

Finally my little friend we agree on something.

Originally Posted by misskit

‘We Now Have Complete And Total Control’: Trump Confirms

"We"!

He wants to claim some credit. Coont.

Nothing preemptive on this. Iran has attacked Israel through proxies in Lebanon and Yemen for a long time.

High time they get the response directly. Like the West, USA, should have done a long time ago.

Originally Posted by Takeovers

Iran has attacked Israel through proxies in Lebanon and Yemen for a long time.

That is the truth. Pallywood supporters like Willy support these proxies, let us not forget that HAMAS is one of these, so his wife who is muslim pumps him full of lies.

Originally Posted by Takeovers

High time they get the response directly.

Indeed.

his wife who is muslim pumps him

"snigger"

Originally Posted by Takeovers

Like the West, USA, should have done a long time ago.

“Jaw, jaw is better than war, war.” (Harold Macmillan. He wasn't right about everything, in this case, rephrasing Churchill, he was showing statesmanship.)

Should the West do the same with North Korea? No easy answers.

Originally Posted by bsnub

That fat orange clown was not involved in the operation and Israel most definitely did not inform him about it

The US is Israel's number 1 sponsor.

It is very unlikely that Israel does many militarily offensive things without either

1. Covert consent of the US administration
2. Explicit behest of US administration

The have in the past occasionally stepped out of line and irked the US but mostly only in situations of extremis

Israel is likely a US proxy in many operations providing plausible deniablity to the US for prosecution of operations to further US strategic regional goals.

Originally Posted by Shutree

Should the West do the same with North Korea? No easy answers.

Apples to oranges, and not relevant to this thread.

Originally Posted by taxexile

"snigger"

You caught that.

Originally Posted by Takeovers

Nothing preemptive on this. Iran has attacked Israel through proxies in Lebanon and Yemen for a long time.

High time they get the response directly. Like the West, USA, should have done a long time ago.

Oh for fucks sake, Israel has been stealing land from the Arab population for decades. They are nationalstic zealots that deserve no sympathy whatsoever!

Originally Posted by bsnub

Finally my little friend we agree on something.

Amazing isn't it.

Ya basketball headed bullpooper.

Originally Posted by bsnub

That fat orange clown was not involved in the operation and Israel most definitely did not inform him about it because that administration of bozo's is not to be trusted. Now that he sees, the Israelis have been successful in Iran he is trying to ride Bennie Netanyahu's coat tails to take credit if in fact Khomeini is killed.

100%

That’s why Brigadier Bone Spurs left the G7 early.
None of our allies trust this administration with anything sensitive, much less war plans. PATRÓN Pete Hegseth would have had a Facebook post about it, before the ink was dry.