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    Baltimore Bridge hit by large ship in the dark bodies sought in nightime river

    90m clip here how the collapse


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    BBC News has ‘experts’ attributing the disaster to design flaws already known to be common In boh the ship and the bridge.

    The water was busy eating cars and people, including pedesstrians seen on the bridge. Search and rescue ongoing for missing bodies. The water was cold and air temp reported to be around 9 degrees farenheit at the time.

    First responders doing all the hard work. Local talking heads doing lots of handwringing, and praying of course.This is USA after all.
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    Ship leased by Maersk.
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    BBC News has ‘experts’ attributing the disaster to design flaws already known to be common In boh the ship and the bridge.
    The Pillars wasn't protected against collision, which will be Maersk's excuse for not paying compensation.

    They are btw best friends with Pentagon.

    Sad shit, eh

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    Thebridge I a common, butvery old design in which interconnecting section collapse on impact. Many like this one around still in use.

    Cargo container ships only have one screw. This ship is believed to have lost power. It may or may not have had a tugboat or a local pilot attached when it hit the bridge.

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    ^ I was once on a vessel that grounded on a rock when leaving port... with a Norwegian pilot onboard. The skipper still lost his job, despite having relinquished power to the pilot.

    This vessel... Singapore registered, Indian crew, Maersk cargo (?) and you can bet the owners will be hidden by a raft of companies.

    Maritime law is complicated and you don't get a more litigious society than The States. The only winners here will be the lawyers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mendip View Post
    ^ I was once on a vessel that grounded on a rock when leaving port... with a Norwegian pilot onboard. The skipper still lost his job, despite having relinquished power to the pilot.

    This vessel... Singapore registered, Indian crew, Maersk cargo (?) and you can bet the owners will be hidden by a raft of companies.

    Maritime law is complicated and you don't get a more litigious society than The States. The only winners here will be the lawyers.
    Agreed. Maritime law and lawyers will definitely profit from this one. Sounds like a major clusterfuck.

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    Of course not to condused with Sino-Tibetan haven Da Li in Tunnan where teh Naxi peoples zonked on the local china white grow grass in the cop shop car park.About half way to the Pandas from here.

    I imagine planty of other bridges examined, like the American nuclear sub and the Irish light house we know who was in the wrong

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    Quote Originally Posted by Switch View Post
    Cargo container ships only have one screw.
    DALI, Container ship, IMO 9697428 | Vessel details | BalticShipping.com

    If this is the same Dali, it had thruster, if that is worth anything at all, in that situation


    Quote Originally Posted by Switch View Post
    This ship is believed to have lost power.
    Oh


    Quote Originally Posted by Switch View Post
    It may or may not have had a tugboat or a local pilot attached when it hit the bridge.
    Pilot yes.

    Tug no


    Greek owned ship

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    Some remarkably dumb twitter posts blaming the event on illegal immigration.

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    Here's one.

    Baltimore Bridge hit by large ship in the dark  bodies sought in nightime river-screenshot_20240327_094402_chrome-jpg

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    All 6 workers missing after bridge collapse presumed dead, authorities say


    Authorities say all six workers missing after a Baltimore bridge collapsed Tuesday are presumed dead and the search for them has been suspended until Wednesday morning.


    Col. Roland L. Butler Jr., superintendent for Maryland State Police, said Tuesday evening that the search and rescue mission was transitioning to one of search and recovery. He says divers would return to the site at 6 a.m. Wednesday when challenging overnight conditions were expected to improve.

    Baltimore Key bridge collapse live updates: 6 workers presumed dead, search resumes Wednesday | AP News

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    All maritime workers, any chance the ships systems could have been hacked?

    NWW and all (New World Weapons)

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    I always apprecite a tug, a thruster not so much.

    In the event of total power loss the inertia indicates the captain ( a ship is not a democracy) did not have sufficient free pratique at those knors to avoid a bridge unable to withstand such a massive load.

    RIP
    let us not forget the poor Latinos on the night shift repairing American infrastructure, Maersk and the lawyers still be aguing when Fort Amisted witnesses the replacement around 2028-30

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    Quote Originally Posted by david44 View Post
    I always apprecite a tug, a thruster not so much.

    In the event of total power loss the inertia indicates the captain ( a ship is not a democracy) did not have sufficient free pratique at those knors to avoid a bridge unable to withstand such a massive load.

    RIP
    let us not forget the poor Latinos on the night shift repairing American infrastructure, Maersk and the lawyers still be aguing when Fort Amisted witnesses the replacement around 2028-30
    All sounds suspect to me and on the morning we start to hear about what our gov's found the CCP have been up to......hmmmmmmmmm deeply suspect. I actually just had to deal with a mainlander peasant today at work, they are so unbelievably childish and their use of false threats is hilarious.
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    And surprise surprise!

    A bunch of right wing US nutters have a nutty right wing conspiracy theory about it.

    Online conspiracy circles galvanize to proclaim Baltimore bridge collapse a ‘black swan event’ | Baltimore bridge collapse | The Guardian

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    As its 3 decades since I was on the Bridge of a bulk carrier pre internet just Inmarsat I cannot be sure a remote cyber attack could stop a ship, but with AI everywhere it will soon be possible.

    I cannot ssee China would wish to stop containerss full of their exports being able to access port of Baltimore via the tideway.

    Of course real cynics may see it as an embarrassssment for Biden regime and a boost for teh Trumpanzees ? While Trump seems softer on Russsia and Stormy he always sseemss "gung Ho" if you will, the art of the "EEL"

    Such conspiracie sure to blossom esp if Trump loses and extremists like Marjorie Taylor Greene are given airtime.

    The "black box' may yield the answers, whether those culpable can be identified but can only think of a few states with the know how outside the 5 eyes, India,France Israel wouldn't Russia China yes , doubt Iran , N Korea or other foes have the tech

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    Quote Originally Posted by happynz View Post
    Some remarkably dumb twitter posts blaming the event on illegal immigration.
    i suppose our small boat problem doesn't wreck bridges.

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    Quote Originally Posted by malmomike77 View Post
    i suppose our small boat problem doesn't wreck bridges
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    I am surprised and saddened by all the terrorist conspiracy theorist. Stranger things happen at sea. This was just a bit closer to shore. I doubt we will ever be told what the actual cause was. I can't see a total electrical failure as there are multiple electrical circuits and many generators. All generators would have to "drop off the board" at once.

    That being said our second engineer did for some reason stop the maid freshwater cooling pump only to discover it would not self prime on restart. Oops. Mid river with tugs just released.
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    Quote Originally Posted by malmomike77 View Post
    i suppose our small boat problem doesn't wreck bridges.
    One thing for sure, if this had happened in the UK there wouldn't have been any casualties because there's not a chance any workers would be out fixing potholes in the road.

    This disaster was the major topic of conversation on the way home from school yesterday, with the daughter and one of her classmates. I was trying to prepare them in case they are ever in a car that plunges into water. First, keep your seatbelt on until the initial impact is over, or until the car has rolled over, because you're never getting out if you've been knocked unconscious. Second, get your windows down as soon as possible, while the electrics still work. This is a big problem with cars these days that have electric windows and no manual crank... once the electrics go due to water immersion you're pretty well buggered.

    And that's not only the windows... the central locking comes on in many cars a few seconds into your journey, so if the electrics go, you're locked in with windows up. Also, even if that's not the case, you'll never open a car door underwater due to the water pressure, and it's much easier to watch the water level gradually rise while sat next to an open window than a closed window and door. I would imagine.

    Get the windows down, let water poor in (which it would eventually, anyway) and then simply release your seatbelt and swim through the open window.

    I knew that my helicopter underwater escape training would become relevant one day.

    To be honest I'm not sure if the kids appreciated my prep talk or whether I traumatised them, but at least they're now prepared if ever I pick them up from school one day pissed, and end up driving into Korat city moat.

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