At least 40 killed in 'terrorist attack' at concert hall near Moscow

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Originally Posted by OhOh

A link to what the US/UK "detailed information" was conveyed to the Russians, by whome and too whom, would support your allegation.

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FFS you idiot.

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On March 7, the U.S. government went public with a remarkably precise warning: The U.S. Embassy in Moscow was monitoring unspecified reports that “extremists have imminent plans to target large gatherings in Moscow, to include concerts.” It warned U.S. citizens in Moscow to avoid big events over the next 48 hours.

US gave advance notice of Moscow attack. What is '''duty to warn'''? | AP News

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And of course your stupid high-heeled war criminal's response was typical.

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Putin’s public reaction was dismissive. Three days before the attack, he condemned what he called “provocative statements” from the West about possible attacks within Russia. Such warnings were aimed at intimidating Russians and destabilizing the country, he said.

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Natalia Prilutskaya is a Russia researcher at Amnesty International. She has no doubt that the four suspects have been tortured and believes that Russia has "crossed a red line".

"In the past, torture was denied or torture victims hid and hid away. But now the Russian authorities have almost made a parade out of it. This is a very worrying sign for the Russian justice system," she told P1 Morgen.

The same is the opinion of Jens Modvig, chief physician at the Danish Institute Against Torture, Dignity, and former chairman of the UN Committee against Torture.

"You actually get the impression that the Russian state is interested in exposing this brutal treatment that they have apparently been subjected to. Nothing has been done to hide it, he says.

The Kremlin declined to answer questions about whether the men had been tortured.

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of course they have been tortured, is there anybody saying that they dont deserve it or should be treated humanely?

the video of them cutting the throats of shot victims as they lay injured is more than enough to justify any amount of torture the russians wish to perform on them before they are incarcerated.

Good to see a country with some balls.


Instead of leaked photos of soldiers electro-dancing hooded lads and stacking high corpses of 'enemy combatants' not prisoners of war in Abu-Garby, they put it straight out there.

Cutting off his ear and making him eat it. :) Don't fok with Russia.

indeed edmond.

we live in a world where sadly the increasingly powerful influence of human rights snowflakes and deluded social justice warriors is empowering those whose only desire is to bring chaos, mayhem, turmoil and tumult into our lives.

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Cutting off his ear and making him eat it.

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all things considered, i thought the russian showed remarkable restraint and the islamist pig should be grateful it wasnt worse.

Someone is missing a point

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"On the one hand, the pain and loss of control is so excruciating that you will do and say anything to make it stop"

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they killers filmed themselves, they were identifiable and in this case their ill treatment was not a means to obtaining a confession.

it was retribution. plain and simple.

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Originally Posted by taxexile

it was retribution. plain and simple.

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Could it be that the interogators needed information on who ordered it etc ?

could be.

Russia: Perpetrators of suspected terrorist attack in Moscow received money from Ukraine
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Russia is again accusing Ukraine of involvement in the attack on concertgoers in Moscow last week in which more than 140 were killed.

Russia's investigative committee said it had evidence that the alleged perpetrators had links to "Ukrainian nationalists".

In addition, the committee said in a statement that the perpetrators had received "significant amounts of money and cryptocurrency from Ukraine".

Ukraine has repeatedly denied having anything to do with the terror attack, and Islamic State has claimed responsibility for the attack.

The White House says Russia's accusations against Ukraine are "nonsense" and that Islamic State is behind the attack on Crocus City Center. Spokesman John Kirkby said the U.S. warned Russia in writing about a possible extremist attack in the country.

DR cannot verify any of thise information.

​Nyheder - Få Seneste Nyt fra i dag | DR

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Originally Posted by helge

Russia: Perpetrators of suspected terrorist attack in Moscow received money from Ukraine
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Anna Danielsen Gille




Russia is again accusing Ukraine of involvement in the attack on concertgoers in Moscow last week in which more than 140 were killed.

Russia's investigative committee said it had evidence that the alleged perpetrators had links to "Ukrainian nationalists".

In addition, the committee said in a statement that the perpetrators had received "significant amounts of money and cryptocurrency from Ukraine".

Ukraine has repeatedly denied having anything to do with the terror attack, and Islamic State has claimed responsibility for the attack.

The White House says Russia's accusations against Ukraine are "nonsense" and that Islamic State is behind the attack on Crocus City Center. Spokesman John Kirkby said the U.S. warned Russia in writing about a possible extremist attack in the country.

DR cannot verify any of thise information.

​Nyheder - Få Seneste Nyt fra i dag | DR

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:smileylaughing:

So the "Jewish Nazi" Zelensky is entrusting the help of Islamic State to kill innocent Russian civilians in full view of the world?

:rolleyes:

Maximum points for effort with the Russian propaganda of late, helge.

0 for common sense. :)

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Originally Posted by hallelujah

Maximum points for effort with the Russian propaganda of late, helge.

0 for common sense.

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OK
Let me help you out here:

1. This is from the Danish Radio (and TV) news site), who you can't accuse of spreading russian propaganda.

They are pro Ukraine and anti- Putin

2. I suppose this was posted to make Putin look ridiculous

(they can't verify anything)

3. I posted it, cause it's part of the developing case.

4. It's as always not my opinion (I post a lot that I disagree with, I do not sex it up, I do not edit it, to make it fit my narrative)

5. If I do not post a comment with the article, it's just ....news. This is not Speakers Corner.

6. Was it also russian propaganda, when I posted the article about the torture ?

7.But do try to score on every ball you see rolling.....Garnacho

:)

Have a nice night

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Originally Posted by helge

OK
Let me help you out here:

1. This is from the Danish Radio (and TV) news site), who you can't accuse of spreading russian propaganda.

They are pro Ukraine and anti- Putin

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Yes, the BBC etc posted similar the other day when Putin and his cronies were accusing Britain, the US and Ukraine of assisting ISIS.:rolleyes:

Nobody took it seriously.

Certainly, there was nobody who decided to post these accusations on here in an attempt to muddy the waters.

Until now. :)

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Originally Posted by helge

OK


3. I posted it, cause it's part of the developing case.


Have a nice night

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Certainly, there was nobody on here who genuinely considered these accusations from the Kremlin as part of a "developing case."

Until now. :)

Have a night night, helge.

Regards to Preben. :)

So you disagree with me posting it. Big deal

Did you also disagree with me posting my propaganda article on russian torture, which I see as part of a developing case ?

Pick and choose Hal

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Originally Posted by helge

So you disagree with me posting it.

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No, but we both know what you really meant with the post, don't we?

It wasn't just a news update.

You'd give OhOh and Klondyke a run for their money at times. :)

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Originally Posted by hallelujah

No, but we both know what you really meant, don't we?

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:)
On this particular subject your knowledge seems to be limited.

On the Moscow massacre thing we are more on the same level.

We know very little....or I do know very little and believe even less

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Originally Posted by helge

I ... believe even less

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This doesn't surprise me. :)

Anyway, enough.

It's Good Friday.

Beer o'clock.

Time to enjoy the good things in life

Amad's goal against Liverpool. What a feeling. What a moment. What a goal. #mufc #facup #manunited - YouTube

:)

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Originally Posted by hallelujah

Anyway, enough.

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Not your call

I have also seen posted that Putin might have ordered it himself !

(crazy allegation or what ? He allegedly did it before)

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Originally Posted by hallelujah

It's Good Friday.

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Not around here......yet

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Originally Posted by helge

Not around here......yet

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Technically not for me yet either, but work is finished so it'll do.

Fish Friday beckons.

Hopefully a better Friday than last week for the world.

(Btw, I wonder if our posts will get deleted like they did the other night. I didn't see anything beyond robust discussion back then and a bit of sarcasm between the two of us.)

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Originally Posted by hallelujah

(Btw, I wonder if our posts will get deleted like they did the other night. I didn't see anything beyond robust discussion back then and a bit of sarcasm between the two of us.)

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Agree

They left your post with the usual wild accusations against me, though.

Could be that me, trying to kick some sense into your naive mind, isn't news anymore

:)

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Originally Posted by helge

They left your post with the usual wild accusations against me, though.

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:smileylaughing:

You can take over from here, General Snubs.

:)

^Reported !

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Originally Posted by taxexile

indeed edmond.

we live in a world where sadly the increasingly powerful influence of human rights snowflakes and deluded social justice warriors is empowering those whose only desire is to bring chaos, mayhem, turmoil and tumult into our lives.

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When people are happy to sit in front of a plane and fly it into a building, or to walk into a crowded mosque and blow themselves to pieces, do you think the thought of a bit of Russian genital electrocution would thwart them?

You blithering idiot.

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Originally Posted by helge

Agree

They left your post with the usual wild accusations against me, though.

Could be that me, trying to kick some sense into your naive mind, isn't news anymore

:)

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No, but it could be that you're childishly trying to get attention with your cretinous bullshit again.

Only a fucking moron would believe Russia when it predictably blames Ukraine of sponsoring Islamic State attacks on its territory.

What next, Ukraine hacked the ship that drove into the bridge in Baltimore?

Some snips from the top of the thread, 23/03/2024 seven days ago:

"ISIS = CIA

You'd give OhOh and Klondyke a run for their money at times.

'the Russians were informed /tipped off by US and British intelligence weeks ago about an possible attack but their government failed to act. May be there's a reason why they didn't?

(a.g, Abu Ghraib, Guantanamo) they're going out of their way to make it public.

And the green light to do so will obviously have come from the very top...

And of course your stupid high-heeled war criminal's response was typical.Cutting off his ear and making him eat it. Don't fok with Russia."

Posts in this tread, from Russia did it, through Russia bad, to the slow realisation that the posters were generally accepting the NaGaStan version.

Doubts have been posted on the "quality/extent/source" of the initial 16% warnings, the use of torture, the initial 4 captives, the identity of the planners of the attack.....

When the perpetrators of the massacre, (the planners, enablers, funders and executors) are finally identified they will, and those posters here whose posts are shown to be erroneous, will be identified.

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Originally Posted by OhOh

When the perpetrators of the massacre, (the planners, enablers, funders and executors) are finally identified they will, and those posters here whose posts are shown to be erroneous, will be identified.

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We've already identified them.

Islamic State did it because Putin is forever persecuting muslims in the countries that actually end in Stan, you fucking moron.