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    Quote Originally Posted by Stumpy View Post
    Oh yeah and to add.

    FUCK CHINA and all those copy cat bastards. Can't develop or design anything on their own, just steal it and copy it and make it poorly.

    Need to keep up, Stump.
    Most of such contemporary and generated technological knowhow is quite Chinese in origin.
    You must be still hung up on the repeated and traditional Western textbook propaganda.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stumpy View Post
    Surprised they didn't have a self destruct feature when it got out of risk areas.

    I am so thrilled that we have pulled all our business and operations out of China.

    I laughed 2 months ago. Some unknown small Chinese start up(supposedly) wanted to buy 5 of our fiber products. When I spoke to our BD group I said NO. That is an order of 5 so they can dissect them in hopes to copy it. They let me negotiate it. I politely declined to their request. Surprisingly they weren't to happy about it. I wished them the best on their "Start Up" venture....
    I am surprised also. I guess if the US recovers the Chinese spying platforms they should be able to show the world that indeed it was a spying platform. But we will never know if it was not, because its recovery will not be announces until it can be proven that it was a spying platform, if it can now, we will be told that the platform was never found.

    As far as doing business with China. That can be the subject for another thread, but I also had a negative experience, with them sending an inferior product to the one we negotiated for , and it failed after a couple of cycles, as opposed to the domestic product we normally used that lasted several cycles. (plastic coated plywood that we use for concrete form, they had not used a sufficient amount of formamide, and the plywood failed after a couple of uses) which meant that we had to make the forms again at carpenter's Union rates of $48 per hour straight time, time and a half over time.
    It cost my department a pretty penny and we never did business with them again.
    Which was stupid on their part because we buy millions of dollars of plywood every year.
    The sooner you fall behind, the more time you have to catch up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sabang View Post
    I suppose the Chinese space station, Huawei 5G networks, and over 2/3rd's of the worlds high speed rail network must have made themselves while the natives were busy thinking about their next meal. You do realise modern China comes out with more patents than any other country, right?
    They copied all of that. Don't kid yourself. You can try all you want but I have been in the industry for far to long and visited their factories and watch them take IP and duplicate it. It's their business model.

    When is the last time you saw, designed, developed and made in China. All they can lay claim on is Covid, which they deny...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ukan Kizmiaz View Post
    Its what god would have wanted them to do!
    If god did not want us to shoot it, she would not have given us guns!!

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    They copied all of that. Don't kid yourself.
    You mean like you copied the automobile, inflatable tires, electricity, the jet engine, trains, guns, and even pizza and apple pie from Europe? Well knock me down with a feather.

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    Cheers Sabang.

    Have a beer.

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    If you have truly proprietary technology, don't send it 'over there' to be manufactured. "there" meaning anywhere else.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HuangLao View Post
    Most of such contemporary and generated technological knowhow is quite Chinese in origin.
    If that were the case, they wouldn't have to fucking nick it, would they?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Buckaroo Banzai View Post
    I am surprised also. I guess if the US recovers the Chinese spying platforms they should be able to show the world that indeed it was a spying platform. But we will never know if it was not, because its recovery will not be announces until it can be proven that it was a spying platform, if it can now, we will be told that the platform was never found.
    It's in 47 feet of water.

    "We can't find it" is not going to be one of the excuses.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sabang View Post
    If you have truly proprietary technology, don't send it 'over there' to be manufactured. "there" meaning anywhere else.
    Of course a better alternative would be for the thieving chinky parasites to actually honour copyrights and patents.

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    As I mentioned, China comes out with way more patents than any other nation these days. But patents only last for 15- 20 years.

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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    It's in 47 feet of water.

    "We can't find it" is not going to be one of the excuses.
    I am sure they will find an excuse. No way will they come out and admit that they were wrong.(if indeed they were wrong)
    How about "regrettably what little survived to be recoverable, proved to be inadequate for a occlusive determination."

    Or say nothing. In the United States of Amnesia , the publick will have forgotten all about it by next week.

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    I'm pretty sure the chinese are happy that some think they can do nothing but copy others.

    (I'll admit conflict of interest here - I have quite a number of chinese friends and work colleagues - they are quite normal and I don't feel the desire to shoot any of them. I find the good guy:krunt [at][at][at][at] ratio pretty much the same as other nationalities)

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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    If that were the case, they wouldn't have to fucking nick it, would they?
    I tend to agree. I have witnessed it for years. They are the masters of replicating, apply for a patent like they designed it, then selling sub standard products with their own name on it.

    US businesses that transfer IP there are stupid. They all know better now. Years ago they could claim ignorance but not now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ukan Kizmiaz View Post
    quite a number of chinese friends
    I have nothing against Chinese people. Like you I have many Chinese colleagues. But many of them have said, do not send disruptive cutting edge tech to China, they will copy it.

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    Even worse - don't send a platter of seafood, they'll go mental!

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    Why the discovery of a Chinese balloon in US skies is such a big deal-rlht6jcxgdga1-jpg

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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    If that were the case, they wouldn't have to fucking nick it, would they?
    names like wun hung low are common on western university paper co-authors

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    China threatens retaliation after US shoots down ‘Red Zeppelin’ spy balloon

    China has reacted with anger and threats of retaliation after the US military shot down a surveillance balloon that floated for days across America in an incident that is increasing antagonism between the two nations.


    An official statement by the Chinese foreign ministry expressed “strong dissatisfaction and protest” over the downing of what Beijing insists was “an unmanned civilian airship” innocently launched to collect weather data and driven off course by the wind.


    “The Chinese side has repeatedly informed the US side, after verification, that the airship is civilian in nature and entered the US due to force majeure, which was a purely accidental situation.”


    It added, “The US side’s insistence on using force is a clear overreaction and a serious violation of international practice.

    China threatens retaliation after US shoots down ‘Red Zeppelin’ spy balloon | News | The Sunday Times

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    I thought you were supposed to blow balloons up ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by baldrick View Post
    names like wun hung low are common on western university paper co-authors
    Yes and they pay universities handsomely to parrot the chinky line.

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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    Yes and they pay universities handsomely to parrot the chinky line.
    dunno about that - but many of the a chin name speak perfect strine - like my sister hui ling - because they grew up in stralya

    I met a translator on a job in chin land who was from the gold coast with cantonese parents , but he grew up in oz - he spoke perfect stralian , he was working with a drilling company on our site - we were sitting outside a local shop drinking some beer and he translated for us what happened when a chin bloke hopped off a work bus and asked the lady inside how much for a carton of beer , and then told her that he wanted the chin price and note the laowei price - and she told them that our money was exactly the same as theirs and the price was the same

    she won my support right there

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    Thrilling story.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bsnub View Post
    That has to be fake! OhDoh's Russian sources said that the US was not capable of shooting it down! I want my money back!
    I would think even the chinese and russians could shoot a balloon down, although it might take a few shots.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 39TG View Post
    Sleepy Joe 1 Winnie the Pooh 0

    Way to go Joe.
    he did well to wait till it was off the coast

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