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    US offers Victor Bout in exchange for Brittany Griner, Paul Whelan.

    CNN Exclusive: Biden administration offers convicted Russian arms dealer in exchange for Griner, Whelan - CNNPolitics

    Washington (CNN)After months of internal debate, the Biden administration has offered to exchange Viktor Bout, a convicted Russian arms trafficker serving a 25-year US prison sentence, as part of a potential deal to secure the release of two Americans held by Russia, Brittney Griner and Paul Whelan, according to people briefed on the matter.

    The families of Whelan, who has been held by Russia for alleged espionage since 2018, and WNBA star Griner, jailed in Moscow for drug possession since February, have urged the White House to secure their release, including via a prisoner exchange if necessary.

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    Get it done. Its a win win deal. Bout is just a businessman. And this woman doesn't deserve to be in jail for some petty weed charge.

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    A drug dealer? Forget her: made her own bed.

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    You must be joking

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    Quote Originally Posted by Backspin View Post
    Bout is just a businessman.
    right. And Pablo Escobar was a pharmaceutical rep.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DrWilly View Post
    A drug dealer? Forget her: made her own bed.
    Where the hell did that come from Willy? Drug dealer? WNBA star who plays in Russia as well. Caught with less than 2 grams of a liquid THC/CBD to be vaped. Prescribed by a doctor for recovery. Damn.........

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    Ok, user not dealer.

    prescribed by a US doctor for use in US, right? Only an idiot would think that works for Russia also…

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    Quote Originally Posted by DrWilly View Post
    A drug dealer? Forget her: made her own bed.
    She wan't a dealer, was trying to get a small amount of weed through Russian customs, against Russian law, got caught, made her own bed, do the time.
    I can't imagine what she was thinking. Is she that entitled as a lot of American women seem to be that she thought it didn't matter or did she think she'd get away with it?
    “If we stop testing right now we’d have very few cases, if any.” Donald J Trump.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cujo View Post
    She wan't a dealer, was trying to get a small amount of weed through Russian customs, against Russian law, got caught, made her own bed, do the time.
    I can't imagine what she was thinking. Is she that entitled as a lot of American women seem to be that she thought it didn't matter or did she think she'd get away with it?
    She wanted it with her and thought she could get away with it. And she might have been right if the US and Russia weren't in a tit for tat battle kidnapping each others citizens. If not for that then she'd probably just be denied entry.

    There's a lot of ppl out there who have small amounts of drugs on them as they travel. Ppl bandage stuff to their legs, they put things in their rectum. Or ginch it. Drugs that help you sleep or wake up. Some things help a lot. Make all the difference in turning a 12 hour flight from pure hell to a pleasant sleep.
    Last edited by Backspin; 28-07-2022 at 09:54 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cujo View Post
    Is she that entitled as a lot of American women seem to be that she thought it didn't matter or did she think she'd get away with it?
    Wait.

    There's a sub division of humanity you claim is more 'entitled' than the average male US basketball player?

    Or did you just not get laid in your home country?

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    Quote Originally Posted by cyrille View Post
    Wait.

    There's a sub division of humanity you claim is more 'entitled' than the average male US basketball player?

    Or did you just not get laid in your home country?
    You obviously haven't been keeping apprised of the Karen situation in the U.S.
    And what getting laid in my home country has to do with anything I can't imagine.

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    Per Richard Medhurst , the Biden admin is under a lot of heat on this. Brittany Grenier is black and she is gay. She has a lot of backing. And they want her back.

    Just a moment...

    WASHINGTON — Dozens of advocacy groups on Wednesday in a letter they sent to President Joe Biden and Vice President Kamala Harris urged them to do more to secure the release of WNBA star Brittney Griner.

    The Human Rights Campaign, the Council for Global Equality, Athlete Ally, GLAAD, GLBTQ Legal Advocates and Defenders, Lambda Legal, the National Black Justice Coalition, the National LGBTQ Task Force, Robert F. Kennedy Human Rights, the Billie Jean King Leadership Initiative and All Out Action Fund are among the groups that signed the letter

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    Looks like Russia doesn't think the deal is fair so they took a pass. That probably has more to do with Whalen. The has to be another body out there to even out the deal.

    Maybe the Russian govt doesn't give that much of a shit about Bout. They just didn't like the precedent.
    Last edited by Backspin; 31-07-2022 at 01:00 PM.

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    Brittany Grier spent the last 4 off seasons playing in Russia. And made some good money at it. I didn't know this

    She made more money playing in Russia than in the US according to this guy

    Last edited by Backspin; 31-07-2022 at 01:07 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Backspin View Post
    Brittany Grier spent the last 4 off seasons playing in Russia. And made some good money at it. I didn't know this
    The same holds true for most threads you post on. You simply google up random shit.

    Its nice to see you come out and admit you don't know much.

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    Quote Originally Posted by aging one View Post
    Its nice to see you come out and admit you don't know much.
    Could this be the floodgates opening? Will h preface each new post of his by saying:

    'I'm full of shit and have no clue what I'm talkin about but the neo-Malthusian faux-Orwellian dichotomy... These are words I found in a jumble-search on Google'

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    Quote Originally Posted by panama hat View Post
    Could this be the floodgates opening? Will h preface each new post of his by saying:

    'I'm full of shit and have no clue what I'm talkin about but the neo-Malthusian faux-Orwellian dichotomy... These are words I found in a jumble-search on Google'

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    Wouldn't change the content much though.

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    She probably wont do a year. There will be deals

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    Quote Originally Posted by NumbNuts
    She probably wont do a year. There will be deals
    we should bomb one of the runways in Moscow. That’ll show Putin.

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    Quote Originally Posted by beachbound View Post
    we should bomb one of the runways in Moscow. That’ll show Putin.
    You're completely out of your depth geopolitics wise. Sentencing a nuclear powers citizen for drugs is not the same thing as brazenly waltzing over a nuclear powers most serious stated red lines.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NumbNuts
    You're completely out of your depth geopolitics wise.
    please teach me, Mr. Kissinger.


    Quote Originally Posted by NumbNuts
    Sentencing a nuclear powers citizen for drugs is not the same thing as brazenly waltzing over a nuclear powers most serious stated red lines.
    You have no idea how sarcasm works, you fucking knob.

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    Quote Originally Posted by beachbound View Post
    You have no idea how sarcasm works, you fucking knob.
    Just proving his stupidity. Beyond belief.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Backspin View Post
    You're completely out of your depth geopolitics wise.
    You rely on memes for your views. Memes. You fucking idiot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Backspin View Post
    You're completely out of your depth geopolitics wise.



    You've got to admit...he does provide laughs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by beachbound View Post
    please teach me, Mr. Kissinger.




    You have no idea how sarcasm works, you fucking knob.
    You were making fun of my runway bombing idea. It is not as out there as you think. Nor did I think of it. Trump did it in Syria in 2017. Iran bombed a helicopter airfield in Iraq.

    If Xi was not a total pussy, he would have bombed a runway in Taiwan or something like that. The old bag could have still done the visit. The US would not have retaliated. And China wouldn't have lost face.

    Oh and yeah . I own one of Kissengers books. World Order. It is a good read.

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