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    Quote Originally Posted by bsnub View Post
    Hate to break it to you, but...
    ... but your 20-year old link is somewhat out of date.

    Although the United Kingdom is a monarchy formally led by a ruler who also governs the official church – the Church of England – belief in ‘a god’ in the UK is low. Only a quarter of Britons (27%) say they actually believe in ‘a god’. A further one in six (16%) believe in the existence of ‘a higher spiritual power’, but not ‘a god’.
    How religious are British people? | YouGov

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    Quote Originally Posted by tomcat View Post
    ...enlightenment strikes!...
    ...many of whom are devout Christians who insist their narrow view of abortion is the correct one for all...

    And many are not you fuckwit

    ...the overbearing and relentless self-righteousness of an intolerably opinionated minority tears at society's fabric and makes a mockery of democratic institutions...tRump shares responsibility for this fiasco with Senate Republicans (looking at you, McConnell) and the misguided who put them in office...Irresponsible, thy name is "Christian" voter...
    Not such a minority as you appear to think. (I do use the word think loosely.)

    Oh FFS you boring cnut. Get off your anti christian soap box. Everyone knows your view. You have bored everyone to death with it relentlessly. I know many christians with the same view as my own. Your understanding of western history and christianity is zero. Civilization doesn't stop at a U.S. border.
    Right a book on how your life would've been so much better in Africa or Pakistan or some non christian country, you self opinionated woe is fucking me chardonnay sipping dilettente.

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    Like it or not, it's the tiresome god botherers that are trying to impose their archaic views on everyone else.

    That's why the constitution called for separation of church and state. Obviously not unequivocally enough.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pickel View Post
    70% of Americans think that abortions should be legal.
    Then let it be legal and get the people who think it is wrong to preach about ways to stop unwanted pregnancies? Of which there are quite a few.

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    Quote Originally Posted by malmomike77 View Post
    simply staggering the number of saps that believe in one scam or another.
    The Conservative party, for example.

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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    Like it or not, it's the tiresome god botherers that are trying to impose their archaic views on everyone else.

    That's why the constitution called for separation of church and state. Obviously not unequivocally enough.
    Approximately 70% of Americans are in favour of abortion rights. Around 56% of Americans believe in a biblical God. A further 33% believe in a higher power and 10% are atheist. According to my calculations that means at least 60% of those in favour of abortion are either "god botherers" or believe in some version of God.
    May I be so bold as to offer a little advice Harry. Try looking at the facts next time rather than just spouting an uninformed ignorant opinion that you must mysteriously pull from the ether. That way you will look a little less like a loudmouthed, clueless opinionated blowhard. Or put simply, put brain into gear before engaging mouth.

    Americans' belief in God: Key findings | Pew Research Center

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hugh Cow View Post
    Approximately 70% of Americans are in favour of abortion rights. Around 56% of Americans believe in a biblical God. A further 33% believe in a higher power and 10% are atheist. According to my calculations that means at least 60% of those in favour of abortion are either "god botherers" or believe in some version of God.
    May I be so bold as to offer a little advice Harry. Try looking at the facts next time rather than just spouting an uninformed ignorant opinion that you must mysteriously pull from the ether. That way you will look a little less like a loudmouthed, clueless opinionated blowhard. Or put simply, put brain into gear before engaging mouth.

    Americans' belief in God: Key findings | Pew Research Center

    Are you seriously trying to argue that this isn't about to become a reality because of the disproportionate level of power wielded by the fucking jesus wheezers?

    If so, you're a lot dumber than I thought.

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    Are you a Jesus wheeze, Hugh Cow? You appear to get quite upset when tomcat points out the foibles of Christianity...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hugh Cow View Post
    Approximately 70% of Americans are in favour of abortion rights.
    I guess that those in favour are not evenly distributed across all the states. More in the East and West coasts?



    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    disproportionate level of power
    I have no dog in this fight. I am pro-choice, FWIW. Having read just a few extracts from the Supreme Court draft I understand that the majority view is that since abortion is not specifically mentioned in the constitution then it is an issue that should be decided by the democratically elected members who govern each state. Is that the key issue in simple terms?
    On the face of it that seems a very fair call, in line with the constitution insofar as it isn't mentioned in the constitution. The problem then is that there are many states where anti-abortionists hold sway, through what passes as the democratic process.
    There doesn't look to be a happy solution. If the majority of the population is pro-choice then a democratic government should be able to legislate for the majority. From my limited understanding of US governance, that isn't likely to happen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shutree View Post
    Is that the key issue in simple terms?
    Pretty much. Amending the constitution to add abortion rights has a less than zero chance.

    1. Passage by Congress. Proposed amendment language must be approved by a two-thirds vote of both houses.
    2. Notification of the states. The national archivist sends notification and materials to the governor of each state.
    3. Ratification by three-fourths of the states. ...
    4. Tracking state actions. ...
    5. Announcement.
    Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to pause and reflect.

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    No matter the SCOTUS ruling this will go on forever. If roe is overturned a long stream of cases will work their way up the court system.

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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    Like it or not, it's the tiresome god botherers that are trying to impose their archaic views on everyone else.
    I agree 100% I hate religion. Nothing else even come close to restricting the advancement of mankind.

    Quote Originally Posted by Hugh Cow View Post
    Around 56% of Americans believe in a biblical God.
    That is a shame.

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    Are you a Jesus wheeze, Hugh Cow?
    He is. That has been confirmed.

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    Carlin nailed these c u n t s years ago, with their "sanctity of life" bullshit.


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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    Carlin nailed these c u n t s years ago, with their "sanctity of life" bullshit.

    Fuck ya he did. Spot on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    Carlin nailed these c u n t s years ago, with their "sanctity of life" bullshit.



    ......and only applies to their brand of selected lives.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HuangLao View Post
    ......and only applies to their brand of selected lives.
    Typed from a basement in Portland at 0440 in the morning.

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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    Are you seriously trying to argue that this isn't about to become a reality because of the disproportionate level of power wielded by the fucking jesus wheezers?

    If so, you're a lot dumber than I thought.
    I read the facts and figures which are a little more scientific and a lot more accurate than your unresearched opinion, based on some childish emotional outburst that has no basis in fact. It can be somewhat entertaining to hear somebody spout opinionated drivel on occasion, but then hopefully you are not under any delusion that your opinion is taken seriously.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hugh Cow View Post
    I read the facts and figures which are a little more scientific and a lot more accurate than your unresearched opinion, based on some childish emotional outburst that has no basis in fact. It can be somewhat entertaining to hear somebody spout opinionated drivel on occasion, but then hopefully you are not under any delusion that your opinion is taken seriously.
    This issue has nothing to do with facts and figures, but the opinions of retarded religious zealots who want to impose their particular brand of christian sharia on the rest of the population.

    Hence the next target with be birth control, followed by equal rights. They are a cancer on America.
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    They have gay marriage in their sights as well I believe.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cujo View Post
    They have gay marriage in their sights as well I believe.
    That falls under "equal rights".

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