NZ: Thai sex workers jailed for fleecing elderly men of $250,000

**prawnograph** · 11-04-2022, 12:42 PM

Nothing new in this concept, however this line is a classic in the circumstances, as if it's a cultural thing to do?

However, he [Judge Clark] noted an "interesting" comment in her pre-sentence report in which Coxon stated her behaviour with the victims was "normal in Thailand".

Thai sex workers jailed for fleecing elderly men of $250,000
8 Apr, 2022

Two Thai sex workers have been jailed for fleecing three elderly men of more than $250,000.

Nualpan Coxon, 67, and Pornthip Phonkoed, 63, both of Auckland, appeared slightly shocked in the Hamilton District Court this afternoon as Judge Stephen Clark sentenced them to different jail terms after a jury found the pair guilty of fraud charges in February.

Two of the victims, aged in their 80s and 70s, responded to "adults only" advertisements in newspapers for massages with a "happy ending", while the third victim met one of the women in a gold shop.

After providing services to two of the men, the women then set out about taking money from them, making misrepresentations about what the money was needed for.

Crown prosecutor Rebecca Mann: "Having entered into transactions for the early stages of the friendship, they then stopped charging money for the sexual acts ... and that of course is consistent with this ruse of an established friendship."

Coxon - jail two years and two months
Phonkoed - jail for two years and ten months

Phonkoed: It would be "unfair" if she was sent to jail because she hadn't done anything wrong. She had been working for her clients, not only sexually, but as well as providing everyday assistance including washing their hair - or more personal areas.
"It wasn't nice. It was very hard work," she said.

**DrWilly** · 11-04-2022, 12:45 PM

Originally Posted by prawnograph

After providing services to two of the men, the women then set out about taking money from them, making misrepresentations about what the money was needed for.

Crown prosecutor Rebecca Mann: "Having entered into transactions for the early stages of the friendship, they then stopped charging money for the sexual acts ... and that of course is consistent with this ruse of an established friendship."

hardly fleeced the old fella if they were just asking for money for sick buffaloes and he gave it to them...

**panama hat** · 11-04-2022, 01:42 PM

Originally Posted by DrWilly

hardly fleeced the old fella if they were just asking for money for sick buffaloes and he gave it to them...

That's not the shocking part, though, is it . . .

Originally Posted by prawnograph

Two Thai sex workers

Nualpan Coxon, 67, and Pornthip Phonkoed, 63

.

**harrybarracuda** · 11-04-2022, 02:04 PM

appeared slightly shocked

Which is more than I am on reading the article.

**qwerty** · 11-04-2022, 03:45 PM

Looking at those pictures all I can say is that Kiwis must be desperately horny!

**DrWilly** · 11-04-2022, 03:54 PM

Originally Posted by panama hat

That's not the shocking part, though, is it . . .

Two Thai sex workers

Nualpan Coxon, 67, and Pornthip Phonkoed, 63
.

Given that the guys were

Originally Posted by ;4384575

Two of the victims, aged in their 80s and 70s

fair enough, I suppose.

**cyrille** · 11-04-2022, 07:20 PM

Originally Posted by prawnograph

Nothing new in this concept, however this line is a classic in the circumstances, as if it's a cultural thing to do?

Could you elaborate on this, please?

Looks to me like they found some easy marks, and at their age they would hardly have been able to believe their luck.

Where is the 'cultural thing to do' element?

**harrybarracuda** · 11-04-2022, 07:44 PM

Originally Posted by cyrille

Could you elaborate on this, please?

Looks to me like they found some easy marks, and at their age they would hardly have been able to believe their luck.

Where is the 'cultural thing to do' element?

I think he was mocking the "normal in Thailand" bit, hence "as if".

Actually, stiffing farangs could well be considered part of Thai culture by now.

"Mum need opelation", "Sick buffalo", etc. have entered folklore after all.

**OhOh** · 11-04-2022, 11:32 PM

Originally Posted by prawnograph

as if it's a cultural thing to do

Have you been privy to Thai family culture?

As a felang who has seen the cultural Thai responsibilities and rewards when their Thai parents can no longer bring home the bacon. I have also witnessed British "culture" regarding managing older parents. Which in my opinion is less inclusive.

Out in the Thai sticks, they are provided for by their children. I can assure you there are cultural,"rules", if not legal understandings. The eldest child cares for them and after death takes over any assets and obligations.

In my particular situation when I joined my Thai wife's family, there were a mother and father and four children. Three were from the same parents and one from an earlier father who I have never seen. Her brother and one half sister lived awy from the family home. Her brother died, one sister is from the other father, one sister is dependent due to a child illness and the last is my wife. My wife's mother died a few of years ago.

My wife and I live in her house and her father lives in his house and his dependent daughter, next door.

Recently, I was told by my wife that her father was to take on a mia noi. She was happy for him, as I was, but concerned over the new mia noi's status. She consulted the village head man and was advised of the "rules" upon her fathers' death.

She was informed and papers were signed that being the senior full child, she would inherit all her fathers property and responsibilities. Her father's farm, house and any other assets. Also, the responsibility of caring for her dependent sister. Her father's yet to arrive, mia noi would leave the house and return to her family home. She seems happy and as the documents are in Thai I have accepted the "rules" are being followed.

Her father is a typical older Thai village man. Tough as old bricks, but ageing. He manages his farm most of the year by himself, employs local help at harvest time and makes enough income for him and his daughter to survive Thai style. Up at five in the morning, feed the monks, off to work until 3 pm, a shower, a meal and falls asleep in front of his blaring TV, he's pretty deaf. 6 days a week.

That's my experience of one aspect of Thai village culture.

Originally Posted by prawnograph

However, he [Judge Clark] noted an "interesting" comment in her pre-sentence report in which Coxon stated her behaviour with the victims was "normal in Thailand".

It is some relief that Judge Clark knew that in a NZ/Thai Culture some relationships are different than in NZ and presumably dismissed the case.

But no, a little islander, racist NZ jury sent them to jail.

How much does a live-in companion, house keeper and sex slave cost in NZ per month? No mention of the length of time they have been performing these tasks for. Was it 6 months, 6 years, 20 years?

I wonder who instigated the court case, the probably happy elderly men, doubtful, or the elderly men's greedy children who have welcomed their fathers' lifestyle for years, but now, looking at their inheritance being reduced, decided to get rid of the ladies.

One hopes they now provide their fathers with equal happiness and care.

**cyrille** · 12-04-2022, 12:11 AM

Originally Posted by OhOh

It is some relief that Judge Clark knew that in a NZ/Thai Culture some relationships are different than in NZ and presumably dismissed the case.

But no, a little islander, racist NZ jury sent them to jail.

How much does a live-in companion, house keeper and sex slave cost in NZ per month? No mention of the length of time they have been performing these tasks for. Was it 6 months, 6 years, 20 years?

I wonder who instigated the court case, the probably happy elderly men, doubtful, or the elderly men's greedy children who have welcomed their fathers' lifestyle for years, but now, looking at their inheritance being reduced, decided to get rid of the ladies.

One hopes they now provide their fathers with equal happiness and care.

There is so, so much supposition there.

So much that you need to be true.

You should get yourself a 'soapbox' forum on RT, and rant away to your heart's content.

**helge** · 12-04-2022, 12:59 AM

Originally Posted by panama hat

Two Thai sex workers

Nualpan Coxon, 67, and Pornthip Phonkoed, 63

Vorsprung durch Technik ?

**tunk** · 12-04-2022, 04:33 AM

Originally Posted by qwerty

Looking at those pictures all I can say is that Kiwis must be desperately horny!

Exactly what I was thinking qwerty. I guess they can't pick and choose like we can here in Thailand.

**baldrick** · 12-04-2022, 05:04 AM

Originally Posted by cyrille

and at their age they would hardly have been able to believe their luck

yes - the old blokes would have been quite chuffed to find these kindly ladies who were still prepared to suck their cocks after a relaxing massage

**DrWilly** · 12-04-2022, 05:40 AM

Originally Posted by cyrille

There is so, so much supposition there.

So much that you need to be true.

.

My first thoughts on reading that diatribe also. Assumptions baked on top of generalisations.

**harrybarracuda** · 12-04-2022, 09:00 AM

Originally Posted by cyrille

There is so, so much supposition there.

So much that you need to be true.

You should get yourself a 'soapbox' forum on RT, and rant away to your heart's content.

You have to remember that the key cultural norm that hoohoo has not yet grasped is his status as the village idiot.

**David48atTD** · 12-04-2022, 12:58 PM

IMHO, I think you guys are being a bit hard on Oh Oh.

He's just relating his story, and I have no reason not to believe him.

Remember, argue the post ... not the Poster.

The (my future) Thai 'Father-in-Law' has 2 mia nois ... one, of which is accepted by the Family.

Thankfully there are no succession issues at the Farm (that I know of)

**nidhogg** · 12-04-2022, 01:34 PM

Originally Posted by OhOh

How much does a live-in companion, house keeper and sex slave cost in NZ per month? No mention of the length of time they have been performing these tasks for. Was it 6 months, 6 years, 20 years?
.

At no point was the relationship described as "live in". Indeed, it is clearly stated in the article that "Phonkoed said she lived alone with her two cats".

And even more so, there were two women and three victims.

**panama hat** · 12-04-2022, 02:10 PM

Originally Posted by nidhogg

two cats

Originally Posted by nidhogg

And even more so, there were two women and three victims.

Why do you only count one cat as a victim?

Originally Posted by helge

Vorsprung durch Technik ?

50 Jahre Übung . . .

**DrWilly** · 12-04-2022, 04:04 PM

Originally Posted by OhOh

Have you been privy to Thai family culture?

Originally Posted by OhOh

How much does a live-in companion, house keeper and sex slave cost in NZ per month?

Is that how you describe your situation? Not everyone is the same oh oh.

**panama hat** · 12-04-2022, 04:13 PM

Originally Posted by OhOh

That's my experience of one aspect of Thai village culture.

And your fantasy world is at peace . . . whether your upbringing in China or your made-up life in Thailand . . . well done.

Originally Posted by OhOh

But no, a little islander, racist NZ jury sent them to jail.

Egads, how dare they . . . your racism is laid bare for all to see again and again- kani nabu chau cibai, dickhead.

Originally Posted by OhOh

How much does a live-in companion, house keeper and sex slave cost in NZ per month?

More than you cold afford . . . luckily

**prawnograph** · 12-04-2022, 05:25 PM

Originally Posted by OhOh

Have you been privy to Thai family culture?

Yes. But ours is apparently very contrasting to yours.

We all have different experiences living in Thailand; I'm happy with where we're at and our living/employment/social levels, hope you are too.

**Reggie** · 12-04-2022, 09:41 PM

Jailed because old man not "take care me" and "not take care me family".

Which of the TD Massive is in New Zealand with an empty sack and emptier bank account?

**Edmond** · 12-04-2022, 10:02 PM

Originally Posted by Reggie

Which of the TD Massive is in New Zealand

NZ Dickie may be the one on the left.

**Backspin** · 12-04-2022, 10:09 PM

2 years in jail for this is insanity.

If they did live with the men , they'd be common law partners and the whole thing would be above board

**OhOh** · 13-04-2022, 02:17 AM

Originally Posted by nidhogg

"Phonkoed said she lived alone with her two cats".

Nobody lies, eh?

Originally Posted by nidhogg

there were two women and three victims

Never had a Thai threesome, foursome, fivesome?

Originally Posted by prawnograph

We all have different experiences living in Thailand; I'm happy with where we're at and our living/employment/social levels

Glad to hear it, I am thanks. Tomorrow, next month, next year, to early to tell.

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