Plane Carrying 133 Crashes In China, Causes Mountain Fire

**Backspin** · 22-04-2022, 06:10 AM

Originally Posted by DrWilly

Yep, and China is a free and loving democracy…

China uses all Western aircraft and or engines. They aren't hiding crashes. They had a bad record in the 90's. But it ain't the 90's anymore. Willy wanker

**Norton** · 22-04-2022, 06:50 AM

Originally Posted by misskit

The devices -- a cockpit voice recorder and a flight data tracker -- are being analysed at an American lab with the help of US government investigators.

The NTSB is the "American lab". Wonder if they will make findings public? Guessing not.

**harrybarracuda** · 22-04-2022, 09:41 AM

Originally Posted by Norton

The NTSB is the "American lab". Wonder if they will make findings public? Guessing not.

So if the seppos want to blame the chinkies, and the chinkies want to blame the seppos, we may end up calling it a bird strike or something.

**VocalNeal** · 22-04-2022, 09:45 AM

Originally Posted by Norton

The NTSB is the "American lab". Wonder if they will make findings public? Guessing not.

Is that the one with Mark Harmon and David McCallum. I liked the Goth Chick in the lab.

**Norton** · 22-04-2022, 06:05 PM

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

So if the seppos want to blame the chinkies, and the chinkies want to blame the seppos, we may end up calling it a bird strike or something.

How knows but guess will be 5 or 6 years until we do know the "official" version.

**harrybarracuda** · 22-04-2022, 09:51 PM

Originally Posted by Norton

How knows but guess will be 5 or 6 years until we do know the "official" version.

I don't think it will take that long to come up with an appropriate fairy story that blames neither dodgy chinky maintenance and instruction, or dodgy American planes.

**baldrick** · 23-04-2022, 12:16 AM

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

we may end up calling it a bird strike or something.

Maybe bats ?

**DrWilly** · 23-04-2022, 03:12 AM

Originally Posted by baldrick

Maybe bats ?

I think they’ve used that one recently…

**harrybarracuda** · 23-04-2022, 12:32 PM

Originally Posted by baldrick

Maybe bats ?

I think the chinkies would object.

**S Landreth** · 18-05-2022, 06:00 AM

Flight data shows China Eastern jet deliberately crashed

US investigators believe someone on board deliberately crashed a China Eastern flight in March, the Wall Street Journal reported Tuesday, in what was China's deadliest air disaster in decades.

China Eastern flight MU5375 was travelling from Kunming to Guangzhou on March 21 when it inexplicably plunged from an altitude of 29,000 feet into a mountainside, killing all 132 people on board.

So-called black box flight data recorders recovered from the site were sent to the United States for analysis.

That data shows that someone -- possibly a pilot or someone who had forced their way into the cockpit -- input orders to send the Boeing 737-800 into a nosedive, according to Wall Street Journal, which cited people familiar with the probe.

"The plane did what it was told to do by someone in the cockpit," the Journal quoted "a person who is familiar with American officials' preliminary assessment" as saying.

US officials believe their conclusion is backed up by the fact that Chinese investigators have so far not indicated any problems with the aircraft or flight controls that could have caused the crash and would need to be addressed in future flights, the newspaper said.

Both the US National Transportation Safety Board and Boeing declined to comment on the investigation to AFP Tuesday.

According to a report from Boeing, investigators found no evidence of "anything abnormal," China's Civil Aviation Administration (CAAC) said in April.

In a statement, the CAAC said staff had met safety requirements before takeoff, the plane was not carrying dangerous goods and did not appear to have run into inclement weather, though the agency said a full investigation could take years.

In the immediate aftermath of the crash, China's ruling Communist Party moved quickly to control information, revving up its censorship machine as media outlets and local residents raced to the crash site.

It has maintained its tight grip over the narrative, with the preliminary probe leaving key questions unanswered.

After the fatal descent near the southern city of Wuzhou, authorities swiftly cordoned off a huge area and China's internet regulator announced it had scrubbed vast amounts of "illegal information" on the crash from China's tightly controlled web.

A social media hashtag bearing the plane's flight number appeared to be censored.

The crash was China's deadliest in around 30 years and dented the country's otherwise enviable flight safety record.

**harrybarracuda** · 18-05-2022, 09:23 PM

I wonder if we'll have hoohoo congratulating the pilots of this one...

**Backspin** · 19-05-2022, 02:15 AM

I wonder if they will sweep it under the rug if the pilot is a so called distressed minority like the Germanwings pilot

**S Landreth** · 19-05-2022, 02:18 AM

^^See if I can prod it a little

Originally Posted by S Landreth

Both the US National Transportation Safety Board and Boeing declined to comment on the investigation to AFP Tuesday.

According to a report from Boeing, investigators found no evidence of "anything abnormal,"

**sabang** · 19-05-2022, 05:22 AM

a so called distressed minority like the Germanwings pilot

Are Jews still a 'distressed minority' in Germany?

Anyway, wondering about the 'ethnicity' of the pilots myself- although it may well prove to be a standard murder/suicide like Germanwings.

**harrybarracuda** · 19-05-2022, 07:01 AM

Originally Posted by sabang

Are Jews still a 'distressed minority' in Germany?

Anyway, wondering about the 'ethnicity' of the pilots myself- although it may well prove to be a standard murder/suicide like Germanwings.

God forbid this sort of event ever gets described as "standard".

**harrybarracuda** · 19-05-2022, 07:04 AM

Originally Posted by S Landreth

^^See if I can prod it a little

According to a report from Boeing, investigators found no evidence of "anything abnormal,"

By that they of course mean with the aircraft.

Surprised China haven't taken the path the Egyptian government took over MS804.

**Troy** · 21-05-2022, 01:33 PM

Well, I'm disappointed with the CAAC for not reporting what they know so far. It allows rumours to circulate, like the one above, which is not good for the relatives of crew and passengers.
I am still curious as to how a pilot can overcome the other two members since they should all be present at start of descent. CVR is necessary to really know what happened.

**harrybarracuda** · 21-05-2022, 05:20 PM

Originally Posted by Troy

I am still curious as to how a pilot can overcome the other two members since they should all be present at start of descent. CVR is necessary to really know what happened.

Three flight deck on a 737? That's assuming they were all in there as well.

Added: Maybe the third one was there to keep on eye on the disgruntled one...

The Truth About China Eastern Airlines Plane Crash: “Five-Star Captain” Suicide – GNEWS

**Troy** · 21-05-2022, 08:43 PM

Yes Harry, 3 crew in the cockpit on this flight. A second officer was in the jump seat getting some work experience. We don't know how many were in the cockpit when event happened but procedure calls for all to have been there at the time. You might get one leave for the loo but not both.

I'm not saying it wasn't suicide, I'm just curious how and why there was a partial recovery that looked to have over stressed the aircraft. CVR would reveal all the details.

**harrybarracuda** · 21-05-2022, 09:28 PM

Originally Posted by Troy

Yes Harry, 3 crew in the cockpit on this flight. A second officer was in the jump seat getting some work experience. We don't know how many were in the cockpit when event happened but procedure calls for all to have been there at the time. You might get one leave for the loo but not both.

I'm not saying it wasn't suicide, I'm just curious how and why there was a partial recovery that looked to have over stressed the aircraft. CVR would reveal all the details.

Blood loss springs to mind...

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