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    Quote Originally Posted by Norton View Post
    It is and what I raised earlier. Putin can order but military is the button pushers. I believe they will ignore the order and Putin will be done.
    At this point we should possibly be praying that this is true.

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    Quote Originally Posted by panama hat View Post
    Like your steadfast belief that Putin wouldn't invade Ukraine? You, sabang, have the least to crow about regarding pronouncements.
    Maybe it's time for an evaluation on ....who predicted/called the invasion.

    I think I saw Troy being worried some weeks before the 24th.

    I didn't believe it until Putin started talking genocide in Donbas.

    Then I knew

    So please step forward you oracles.

    Backspin doesn't have to; he called it many moons ago

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    Russian Troops Face Imminent Defeat in Eastern Ukraine Supply Hub

    Russian forces face “imminent defeat” to advancing Ukrainian soldiers in a key supply hub in eastern Ukraine, threatening Russian positions elsewhere and potentially undermining morale further, observers said Thursday.


    Russian military bloggers said Ukrainian troops advanced west, north and northeast of the Donetsk region town of Lyman on Wednesday. Russian troops captured Lyman, which had a pre-war population of 20,000, in the third month of the invasion in May.


    “From a staging point on the right bank of the Oskil River, the Ukrainian command continues the offensive aimed at reaching Svatove and encircling Lyman,” said Rybar, a pro-war Telegram channel that shares daily reports to 800,000 of its followers, in an English-language update.

    A key railway juncture, Lyman could be used as a gateway for Ukrainian forces' counteroffensive to continue advancing further east without losing momentum before winter.


    “The collapse of the Lyman pocket will likely be highly consequential to the Russian grouping in northern Donetsk and western Luhansk,” the Institute for the Study of War (ISW) said in a daily update.


    The Russian Defense Ministry’s failure to address these losses “will likely further reduce already-low Russian morale,” it added.


    In a daily briefing Wednesday, the Defense Ministry's spokesman claimed that Ukraine’s offensive on Lyman had failed and that 70 Ukrainian soldiers were killed.


    Rybar, however, noted that the Ukrainian forces’ manpower “allows the enemy to suffer heavy losses without reducing the onslaught” on Russian and pro-Russian positions.


    Lyman’s capture would also likely complicate Russia’s imminent annexation of Donetsk and Luhansk in the east, as well as Zaporizhzhia and Kherson in the south, following referendums that Kyiv and its Western allies denounce as a sham.


    The Kremlin said this week that the goal of the Russian offensive in Ukraine was to “at least” capture eastern Ukraine.

    Russian Troops Face ‘Imminent Defeat’ in East Ukraine Supply Hub - The Moscow Times

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    President Putin signs a decree recognizing the independence of Zaporozhy and Kherson

    Urgent.. The Kremlin: President Putin signs a decree recognizing the independence of Zaporozhye and Kherson provinces

    9/30/2022, 7:41:45 AM Urgent.. The Kremlin: President Putin signs a decree recognizing the independence of Zaporozhye and Kherson provinces

    Urgent.. The Kremlin: President Putin signs a decree recognizing the independence of Zaporozhye and Kherson provinces - Teller Report

    As expected. Next step?

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    Quote Originally Posted by sabang View Post
    As expected. Next step?
    It makes not one shred of a difference. Ukraine is going to take those territories back anyway. A waste of time even discussing it. Russia is on the brink of a major strategic collapse in the Donbass as we speak.

    The desperation is palpable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bsnub View Post
    It makes not one shred of a difference. Ukraine is going to take those territories back anyway. A waste of time even discussing it. Russia is on the brink of a major strategic collapse in the Donbass as we speak.

    The desperation is palpable.
    What else did you talk about? Was the pub busy?

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    ^^ Just like they were about to in Kherson, a few weeks ago? Your answers will be provided by what actually happens on the ground child. Seeing as we already know what you think anyway, there is really no need to repeat it ad infinitum on a daily basis. Tedious and boring.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sabang View Post
    Just like they were about to in Kherson, a few weeks ago?
    The ruse worked, and they are still taking more ground than Russia in Kherson.

    Quote Originally Posted by sabang View Post
    Seeing as we already know what you think anyway, there is really no need to repeat it ad infinitum on a daily basis. Tedious and boring.
    If it weren't for ohoh, you'd take the gold in that department.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sabang View Post
    Just like they were about to in Kherson, a few weeks ago?
    I never said that, as usual you are trying to put words in my mouth. A few weeks ago, the Ukrainians were kicking the Russians teeth in up in Kharkiv oblast. Now they are on to Donetsk oblast. I have already seen plenty of drone footage showing the Russians attempting to retreat out of the Lyman pocket and getting blown to smithereens in a turkey shoot. Early in the morning in Ukraine, but I expect there will be some news updates coming out today.

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