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    And why would Canadian citizens of Ukrainian heritage be allowed to vote in an Independence Referendum held in Ukraine?
    Who voted in the Quebec, Scottish and Northern Irish Referenda? Well gee, Quebecois, Scots and Northern Irish respectively.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sabang View Post
    And why would Canadian citizens of Ukrainian heritage be allowed to vote in an Independence Referendum held in Ukraine?
    Who voted in the Quebec, Scottish and Northern Irish Referenda? Well gee, Quebecois, Scots and Northern Irish respectively.
    Who cares about yet more of your pointless distractions?

    It wouldn't have mattered even if they could vote because Putin makes the numbers up.

    Only a fucking moron thinks these result aren't fake.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sabang View Post
    And why would Canadian citizens of Ukrainian heritage be allowed to vote in an Independence Referendum held in Ukraine?
    Who voted in the Quebec, Scottish and Northern Irish Referenda? Well gee, Quebecois, Scots and Northern Irish respectively.
    Are there people of Quebec heritage living in France? Weak argument.

    What about the Ukrainians that recently left? You know, the majority of citizens that were in those shiny new Russian territories, whose homes were destroyed by the Russians. Are they allowed a mail in vote?

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    Quote Originally Posted by sabang View Post
    ^^^ You don't seriously believe that nonsense, do you? That is the biggest Ukrainian whopper since they accused Russia of shelling their own military forces and personnel in a nuclear plant they have controlled since almost the beginning of the war.
    Russia tells UN inspectors rocket performed '180-degree' flip to land at Zaporizhzhia plant

    Kremlin expert insists the weapon made an about-turn in a bid to convince inspectors it had not been fired from Russian-held land

    Russia tells UN inspectors rocket performed '180-degree' flip to land at Zaporizhzhia plant
    Originally Posted by sabang
    Maybe Canada should join Nato.

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    Quote Originally Posted by misskit View Post
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    Numbers to make Fatty Kim blush . . . luckily people like sabang believe it or Putin wouldn't have any credibility at all.




    Quote Originally Posted by pickel View Post
    There were 2 options, done under gunpoint
    Quote Originally Posted by sabang View Post
    Doesn't change the Fact-
    Actually, sabang . . . there is nothing 'factual' about the Russian position.

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    Quote Originally Posted by panama hat View Post
    Actually, sabang . . . there is nothing 'factual' about the Russian position.
    They lie about everything all the time. It is endemic, and yet idiots like Sabang try to push the nonsense they spew.

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    What is certainly not a lie is that a considerable majority of the residents of the four provinces want out of the post-Maidan Ukrainian federation and it's hostile government. I don't blame them either. Apart from their far-Right politics, rampant corruption and declared hostility to all things Russian, Russia enjoys a considerably higher average income than the dysfunctional mess that Ukraine has become- and I am talking pre-war.

    Perhaps you should be worrying about Odessa, Kharkiv and Dniepr oblasts instead.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sabang View Post
    What is certainly not a lie is that a considerable majority of the residents of the four provinces want out of the post-Maidan Ukrainian federation and it's hostile government.
    That is absolutely a bald faced lie, and it has been proven time and again by brave partisans killing Russian appointed puppet administrators over and over. So once again, you prove my point by lying.

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    There aren’t enough tourniquets for all of you’ The Russian army through the eyes of new conscripts

    In the days since Vladimir Putin announced mobilization in Russia, myriad evidence of both illegal conscriptions and the sorry state of the Russian army has appeared online. Some new draftees have complained of being forced to buy their own sleeping bags and medications. Others have posted videos showing how soldiers are forced to sleep on benches or on the floor because their barracks have no beds. Still others have reported being issued rusty weapons and sent to the front with no training. An inside look at the true condition of Russia’s military.



    https://meduza.io/en/feature/2022/09...for-all-of-you

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    Many of them are already showing up on the front lines and are being slaughtered piecemeal by the Ukrainians. No body armor, steel pot helmets etc. etc. A pathetic state of affairs. Russia is done. This war is a mop up operation at this point.

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    This war is a mop up operation at this point.
    Noted for posterity.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sabang View Post
    Noted for posterity.
    Putin is having his ass handed to him on a plate.

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    Russia launches Ukraine invasion-p0d305ns-jpg

    Drone footage taken on Monday shows massive queues of vehicles waiting at the Russian side of the Russian-Georgian border.

    Some people were also seen on foot.

    Ukraine war: Drone footage shows huge queues at Russian-Georgian border - BBC News

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    Russians flee to Georgia after Putin's mobilisation order

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    TBILISI, Sept 26 (Reuters) - Russian men are fleeing into neighbouring Georgia to avoid being called-up to fight in a war they do not agree with following Russian President Vladimir Putin's order to mobilise hundreds of thousands of reservists for the conflict in Ukraine.

    At one point on Sunday, the estimated wait to enter Georgia hit 48 hours, with more than 3,000 vehicles queuing to cross the frontier, Russian state media reported, citing local officials.

    Russians flee to Georgia after Putin'''s mobilisation order | Reuters
    Someone is sitting in the shade today because someone planted a tree a long time ago ...


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    Scuttlebutt says that the Ukrainians are on the move again. Eyes on Luhansk oblast.

    Slava Ukraine.

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    Russia offers the Taliban administration in Afghanistan a 'discount' to average global commodity prices

    Russia launches Ukraine invasion-gettyimages-1234633762-jpg

    The Taliban has signed a provisional deal for Russia to supply petrol, diesel, gas and wheat to Afghanistan, the group's Acting Commerce and Industry Minister Haji Nooruddin Azizi says.

    Key points:
    • Russia doesn't officially recognise the Taliban's government, but Moscow hosted some of its leaders before of the fall of Kabul
    • Since the Taliban regained power, Afghanistan has been plunged into economic crisis
    • The US recently announced the creation of a Swiss trust fund for some of the Afghan central bank reserves worth around $7 billion


    Mr Azizi said his ministry was working to diversify its trading partners and that Russia had offered the Taliban administration a discount to average global commodity prices.

    HERE

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    Poll: Americans support quick diplomatic end to war in Ukraine

    More voters also said they want Washington to actively engage in diplomacy as a condition for sending military aid.

    SEPTEMBER 27, 2022


    Nearly 60 percent of Americans would support the United States engaging in diplomatic efforts “as soon as possible” to end the war in Ukraine, even if that means Ukraine having to make concessions to Russia, according to a new poll.

    The survey, conducted by Data for Progress on behalf of the Quincy Institute for Responsible Statecraft, also found that a plurality (49 percent) said the Biden administration and Congress have not done enough diplomatically to help end the war (37 percent said they had).

    The poll’s release comes after Vladimir Putin doubled down on Russia’s war in Ukraine by mobilizing reserves and issuing threats to use nuclear weapons after recent gains by the Ukrainian military near the country’s eastern border with Russia.

    Moscow has also recently orchestrated referendums in some Russian-controlled areas of Ukraine on whether citizens there want to secede and become part of the Russian Federation, leading experts to believe that regardless of the outcome, Putin plans to illegally annex parts of Ukraine.

    The survey also found that 47 percent said they support the continuation of U.S. military aid to Ukraine only if Washington is involved in ongoing diplomacy to end the war, while 41 percent said they would support aid regardless of whether the United States is engaged in negotiations.

    Just six percent said Russia’s war in Ukraine is among the top three most important issues facing the United States today, with the top three being inflation (46 percent), jobs and the economy (31 percent), and gun violence (26 percent).

    Poll: Americans support quick diplomatic end to war in Ukraine - Responsible Statecraft


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    There will be no diplomacy, you idiot. Russia is being crushed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sabang View Post
    More voters also said they want Washington to actively engage in diplomacy as a condition for sending military aid.

    Poll: Americans support quick diplomatic end to war in Ukraine - Responsible Statecraft
    Oh, give us a break.

    A Poll, initiated for a media organisation, so that it could publish it's own biased results.

    From your link ... The survey, conducted by Data for Progress on behalf of the Quincy Institute for Responsible Statecraft,

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    Everything I stated from the start is coming into fruition. The next offensive is on, and Luhansk city is going to be cut off from their rail connection to Russia, which is the last rail connection that the Russians have into Ukraine aside from the Crimean bridge. All of Luhansk and Donetsk will be falling soon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bsnub View Post
    rail connection to Russia, which is the last rail connection that the Russians have into Ukraine aside from the Crimean bridge.
    I wonder why that is still standing?

    Out of range of the HIMARS?

    Surely a few careless smokers could have done something with the rail bridge

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    Quote Originally Posted by bsnub View Post
    Many of them are already showing up on the front lines and are being slaughtered piecemeal by the Ukrainians. No body armor, steel pot helmets etc. etc. A pathetic state of affairs. Russia is done. This war is a mop up operation at this point.
    Any links for any of that? Or should we just take it as gospel from the forum alky?

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    Quote Originally Posted by David48atTD View Post
    I wonder why that is still standing?

    Out of range of the HIMARS?

    Surely a few careless smokers could have done something with the rail bridge
    There was an analysis piece I read about that. I don't recall details now but it made sense. It is out there on the Internet somewhere.

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    Quote Originally Posted by David48atTD View Post
    Drone footage taken on Monday shows massive queues of vehicles waiting at the Russian side of the Russian-Georgian border.
    The Russians have set up a conscription centre there. it is possibly not exactly voluntary. Good luck to those trying to get across now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by David48atTD View Post
    Drone footage taken on Monday shows massive queues of vehicles waiting at the Russian side of the Russian-Georgian border.
    Quote Originally Posted by Shutree View Post
    The Russians have set up a conscription centre there. it is possibly not exactly voluntary. Good luck to those trying to get across now.
    Nah, they'll be fine and able to cross the Border.

    Remember, only 'reservists and men who have prior military experience' (or something like that) are being tapped on the shoulder by Putin and they would be lining up at the enlistment offices with the promise of ...
    • high pay,
    • modern uniforms,
    • latest military hardware,
    • months of training before entering combat,
    • only reinforcing the secondary battlefront,
    • FIFO engagement ... 3 weeks in uniform and one week holidays and
    • personal hand warmers because now the rains start and Winter is around the corner

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