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    Quote Originally Posted by panama hat View Post
    So, the cretin thinks Ukraine is going to invade Russia . . . he's even more delusional than one could have imagined
    No he does not think that. He will annex the regions "voting", making them mother Russia, and hence putting nukes on the table.

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    Russia Can’t Protect Its Allies Anymore

    A tentative cease-fire between Armenia and Azerbaijan has held for the past week, following one of the deadliest-ever outbreaks of fighting between the two frequent belligerents on Sept. 12-14. But it is unlikely to hold; Azerbaijani forces who marched into Armenia continue to occupy part of its territory, in particular heights around the town of Jermuk. Rumors swirl of further offensives.

    A key destabilizing factor is a power vacuum in the region, which has emboldened Azerbaijan to press its advantages. Its military supremacy over Armenia was conclusively displayed by their previous conflict, the 2020 war over Nagorno-Karabakh, a mountainous ethnic Armenian enclave within the de jure borders of Azerbaijan.

    Azerbaijan’s 2020 offensive—with key support from Turkey and Israel—was settled only by an uneasy cease-fire mediated by Russia, which has a close relationship with Armenia. While the circumstances remain disputed, it appears that Russia threatened to intervene more forcefully if Baku did not agree. This marked an expansion of the Russian military’s presence into the South Caucasus region on a scale unprecedented since the Soviet collapse.

    The deal provoked mass opposition within Armenia. But Prime Minister Nikol Pashinyan, who had initially come to power three years prior on the back of an anti-kleptocratic liberalizing revolution, had no one to turn to but Moscow, as Washington and Europe were entirely absent from diplomatic efforts to end the 2020 fighting. Pashinyan ultimately allowed Russia to expand its military presence within Armenia, building new bases in the country proper in addition to its expanded role in Nagorno-Karabakh.

    Russia is now incapable of sustaining that presence—and Armenia is now suffering the consequences. The question is whether the West will now recognize the opportunity to expand its own influence in the South Caucasus region.

    What the Russian-brokered deal did not do was solve any underlying problems in the region. Instead, it opened more territorial disputes without solving the Nagorno-Karabakh one. Subsequent diplomacy proved unable to address both sides’ concern. Meanwhile, the Kremlin—long the major arms supplier of both sides—also continued to offer Azerbaijan more heavy weaponry. At the end of this August, Azerbaijan presented Armenia with a fait accompli, sending its forces to take the town of Lachin (known as Berdzor in Armenian) itself, revealing Russia’s impotence.

    By that time it was increasingly apparent that the Kremlin had overstretched itself in its war in Ukraine, which it launched in February, having to draw on military personnel and equipment from across Russia itself, as well as its other overseas deployments as far afield as Tajikistan and Syria. Kyiv alleges that Moscow has redeployed soldiers from its 102nd military base in the Armenian city of Gyumri, one of its largest foreign bases, to Ukraine as well.

    Yerevan began to consider other options, but the West’s interest was limited. Washington said it was open to new diplomatic avenues but took little effort to pursue them. European diplomats had their hands tied as well amid fuel shortages due to Russia’s war, with European Commission President Ursula von der Leyen visiting Baku in July, pledging a new partnership based on doubling Azerbaijani gas supplies. The plan may not be feasible, but Europe is in desperate need of alternative energy allies. Brussels appears to believe it cannot risk a spat with Baku as a result.

    Unsurprisingly, Yerevan sought further alternatives, including neighboring Iran. Yerevan and Tehran have economic links, and Iran also home to a large ethnic Armenian population. Iran also has frequent tensions with Azerbaijan, primarily over the issue of Azerbaijani irredentism. In August, Armenia agreed for Iran to establish a consulate in the border village of Kapan, in Armenia’s Syunik district, in hopes of deterring Azerbaijan. Known as Zangezur in Azerbaijani, Syunik is the territory through which Baku aims to establish its land corridor to Nakhchivan. But it is highly unlikely that Iran will intervene directly, and Tehran has hardly been an effective security guarantor elsewhere.

    Following the Sept. 12-14 fighting, Armenia turned to the Russian-led Collective Security Treaty Organization (CSTO) and requested a direct intervention to protect it. Pashinyan had backed Russia’s use of the CSTO as its vector for intervening in Kazakhstan following mass unrest there this January, in an effort to shore up support. However, the organization has no independent position from Russia. Amid the deteriorating situation for the Russian military in Ukraine, Russian President Vladimir Putin showed no interest in diverting efforts.

    The CSTO duly refused to get involved, just as it did in 2020, when it excused its absence by stating the fighting was not in Armenia proper. That justification was no longer available, revealing the organization to be a paper tiger.

    Washington, however, did pick up the slack, brokering a cease-fire on Sept. 14. This prompted a long-overdue escalation of U.S. efforts to address the Armenia-Azerbaijan conflict. On Sept. 18, Nancy Pelosi, the speaker of the U.S. House of Representatives, was in Yerevan and declared Baku’s attacks illegal under international law. Although Azerbaijan reacted negatively, the following day U.S. Secretary of State Antony Blinken mediated a discussion between the two countries’ foreign ministers ahead of the United Nations General Assembly meeting in New York. However, no progress was announced.

    Despite the increased diplomacy, the United States has not directly demanded Azerbaijan withdraw, at least publicly. Nor has it signaled what actions it could take if Azerbaijan does attack again. And while Armenia has an effective lobby and allies in Congress, so does Azerbaijan. It is hard to imagine Washington intervening directly, let alone providing Yerevan with any significant defensive aid.

    Notably, Azerbaijan also seems willing to act regardless of its partners’ positions. The latest offensive was launched without the explicit Turkish support that accompanied the 2020 war. In fact, Armenia and Turkey had in the preceding months made rare diplomatic progress on their own long-standing tensions, with direct flights resuming in February and talks about their long-shuttered border progressing as recently as July. However, Ankara has not publicly opposed Baku’s actions—and Turkey also has an interest in Azerbaijan securing a land corridor to Nakhchivan, which would result in direct overland access between mainland Azerbaijan and Turkey as well.

    Baku appears emboldened, confident in its apparent military supremacy over Armenia. The power vacuum in the region resulting from Russia’s self-inflicted troubles and self-interested foreign policy risks turning into a black hole, the gravitational pull of which is so strong that it crushes all that falls into it. The regime of Azerbaijani President Ilham Aliyev regime has made clear that would suit it just fine.

    Unless the crisis moves far up the international agenda—and the United States, the EU, and Turkey can work together to disincentivize Azerbaijan—the outlook for Armenia is bleak.

    https://foreignpolicy.com/2022/09/22...orno-karabakh/

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    Occupied Regions of Ukraine Hold Votes to Join Russia

    Four Ukrainian territories occupied by Putin’s forces opened voting on referendums to officially become part of Russia despite widespread condemnation from Ukrainian lawmakers and Western officials. The referendums—which are being held in Luhansk, Kherson, and the partially occupied regions of Zaporizhzhia and Donetsk—are seen as a step on the way for the areas being annexed by Russia. If the regions do formally align with Moscow, critics fear that Putin may then use Ukrainian attempts to retake the territories as a way of claiming that Russia itself is being attacked, which in turn could lead to a dramatic escalation in the conflict. In his nightly address, Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky referred to the votes as “sham referenda” and spoke directly to Russian citizens to say they are being “thrown to their deaths” following the Kremlin’s mass military call-up this week, which has plunged Russia into chaos.

    https://www.thedailybeast.com/occupi...to-join-russia

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    Quote Originally Posted by misskit View Post
    Occupied Regions of Ukraine Hold Votes to Join Russia
    Already proving to be a shame. No private voting, and they are just telling people how to vote...

    https://twitter.com/wartranslated/st...42079848939522

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    Russia Threatens Denaturalization for Draft Defying Central Asians

    Moscow could strip the Russian passports of naturalized citizens from Central Asia if they defy President Vladimir Putin’s orders to take up arms in Ukraine, a senior human rights official said Thursday.


    Kirill Kabanov, member of the presidential human rights council, issued the warning after four ex-Soviet Central Asian republics threatened their citizens with criminal prosecution for fighting in foreign conflicts.

    Kabanov said his body is drafting new rules as part of Putin’s mobilization orders for migrants who have obtained Russian citizenship within the past 10 years.


    The draft rules include compulsory military service within a year for Russian citizens hailing from Kazakhstan, Kyrgyzstan, Tajikistan and Uzbekistan, he wrote on his Telegram channel.


    Nationals of these countries, who often move to Russia to find work, make up a significant share of foreigners granted Russian passports.


    “Refusal to perform military service should result in the deprivation of Russian citizenship not only for the person subject to military service, but also for members of his family,” Kabanov said.


    He said denaturalization “would be an adequate response to an official ban” on taking part in hostilities on foreign soil by the Central Asian countries.


    Several reports have emerged of Central Asian nationals living in Russia being pressured to fight on Moscow’s side in the months since Russia invaded Ukraine in February.


    Migrants’ rights activists told The Moscow Times in spring that the recruitment tactics included promising expedited citizenship in exchange for Central Asians signing up for contract service with the Russian army.


    Russian lawmakers this week moved to simplify citizenships for foreigners who complete a one-year contract with the Russian Armed Forces.


    Moscow Mayor Sergei Sobyanin announced the opening of a military recruitment site for foreigners at a migration center outside the Russian capital.

    Abramovich Played 'Key Part' in Release of Britons Held in Ukraine – Report - The Moscow Times

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    Quote Originally Posted by bsnub View Post
    Already proving to be a shame. No private voting, and they are just telling people how to vote...

    https://twitter.com/wartranslated/st...42079848939522
    Of course it's complete bollocks.

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    Armed Russian Proxies in Ukraine Pressure Locals to Vote on Annexation

    Russian proxies in occupied Ukrainian territories are knocking on residents’ doors and pressuring them to vote to formally join Russia, a Ukrainian official said Friday.


    Russia-occupied areas of Ukraine’s Zaporizhzhia and Kherson regions, along with the breakaway Donetsk and Luhansk people’s republics, are staging referendums from Sept. 23-27 that will decide whether they will be annexed by Russia.


    “When a person checks ‘NO’ on the ‘ballot’ it is recorded in a ‘notebook’,” the Luhansk region’s Ukrainian Governor Serhiy Haidai wrote on his Telegram channel of the Russian proxies' election visits.


    Haidai added that the Russian proxies are accompanied by armed men on their door-to-door visits.


    Kyiv and its Western allies have decried the referendum votes as a “sham” and an unlawful land grab by Moscow.

    The majority of referendum voting will be conducted at homes “as a security measure,” the Russian state-run RIA Novosti news agency reported.


    Rallies in support of the ongoing referendums are being held in several Russian cities, media reported, with state employees, students and political activists reportedly being transported to the events.


    The referendums were announced a day before President Vladimir Putin declared a “partial” mobilization of Russia’s military reservists, a move aimed at bolstering Moscow’s flagging manpower in its seven-month invasion of Ukraine.


    The vice spokesperson of Russia’s Federal Council said earlier that any attack on Russia-occupied territories of Ukraine during and after the referendums would be viewed as an attack on Russia itself.

    VIDEO Armed Russian Proxies in Ukraine Pressure Locals to Vote on Annexation – Official - The Moscow Times

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    Chechnya Exempts Itself From Russia’s Draft

    Chechen leader Ramzan Kadyrov said he has exempted his region from Russian President Vladimir Putin’s military call-up following protests in his home region and his anger over a recent Russian-Ukrainian prisoner exchange.


    Kadyrov said late Thursday that Chechnya had already deployed 20,000 troops since the start of the Ukraine invasion in February.


    “The republic of Chechnya over-fulfilled its conscription plan by 254%… even before the announcement of a partial mobilization,” he wrote in a Telegram post.


    Kadyrov and his allies have boasted of the presence of Chechen troops in Ukraine since early in Russia’s invasion of its neighbor, while Chechen soldiers regularly post videos of themselves in Ukraine on social media.


    Appearing to address the dozens of Chechen women who took to the streets of Grozny against Putin’s draft announcement, Kadyrov said:


    “I call on the Chechen population, particularly our beloved and respected mothers, to keep calm.”

    Kadyrov’s defiance of the Russian Defense Ministry’s orders for each region to call up reservists comes only days after he himself had urged colleagues across Russia’s 11 time zones to “self-mobilize” 85,000 troops.


    It also follows his increasingly open criticism of the Kremlin’s decisions surrounding the war in Ukraine.


    Earlier Thursday, Kadyrov said he was “extremely dissatisfied” with Russia’s exchange of 215 Ukrainian and foreign fighters for 55 Russian soldiers and a Putin ally suspected of high treason by Kyiv.


    In his latest statement on Chechnya’s over-performance of draft quotas, Kadyrov decried Russia’s territorial losses more than six months after launching a full-scale invasion of Ukraine.


    “If we had used at least a fraction of our weapons and equipment, we would have reached our goal long ago,” he wrote.


    “But since the leadership thinks otherwise, it’s up to us to follow orders.”


    Kadyrov is widely believed to enjoy free rein over Chechnya, a Russian subject that had fought two bloody separatist wars against Moscow, in exchange for loyalty to the Kremlin.


    The Kremlin did not comment on Kadyrov’s statement in its daily briefing with reporters Friday afternoon.

    Chechnya Exempts Itself From Russia’s Draft - The Moscow Times

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    Quote Originally Posted by misskit View Post
    “I call on the Chechen population, particularly our beloved and respected mothers, to keep calm.”
    If there is one single thing to avoid in politics it is, never piss off mothers.
    This latest bit of Putin's insanity has done just that. You are done Vlad as frankly you were the moment you ordered the invasion of the Ukraine.

    Assuming the folks who put you and keep you in power haven't thrown you under the bus, what next Vlad? Chemical or nuc weapons to protect the newly acquired "homeland"?

    Don't do it! What is left of your military will be completely destroyed within days and the little support you now have from a few nations will be gone.
    Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to pause and reflect.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Norton View Post
    If there is one single thing to avoid in politics it is, never piss off mothers.
    This latest bit of Putin's insanity has done just that. You are done Vlad as frankly you were the moment you ordered the invasion of the Ukraine.

    Assuming the folks who put you and keep you in power haven't thrown you under the bus, what next Vlad? Chemical or nuc weapons to protect the newly acquired "homeland"?

    Don't do it! What is left of your military will be completely destroyed within days and the little support you now have from a few nations will be gone.
    Not like you to sit on the fence. lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by Norton View Post
    If there is one single thing to avoid in politics it is, never piss off mothers.
    This latest bit of Putin's insanity has done just that. You are done Vlad as frankly you were the moment you ordered the invasion of the Ukraine.

    Assuming the folks who put you and keep you in power haven't thrown you under the bus, what next Vlad? Chemical or nuc weapons to protect the newly acquired "homeland"?

    Don't do it! What is left of your military will be completely destroyed within days and the little support you now have from a few nations will be gone.
    I forsee an irate army of babooshkas like a herd of banshees decending on the Kremlin.

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    You are done Vlad
    He isn't done though. His popularity remains buoyant- around 69% pre-mobilisation, although I reckon this will bring it down a few notches. Still impressive compared to Joe's fan club, and mid-terms are looming. How much more is the US willing to open it's overdrawn cheque book?

    The regions Russia is about to annex are clearly pro-Russian, although the process and methodology of the Referenda and annexation are clearly illegal. So, what next?
    Last edited by sabang; 24-09-2022 at 08:46 AM.

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    Russian Commander Suffers Serious Injuries After Fire Attack on HQ—Ukraine

    A Russian commander was seriously injured in Ukraine this week, according to the Ukrainian military.

    Major General Oleg Tsokov, Commander of the 144th Motorized Rifle Division, was reportedly wounded in a Ukrainian "fire attack" at his HQ near Svatove, in partially occupied Luhansk region.

    Russia has lost a number of generals in Ukrainian attacks since Putin's invasion began on February 24, with Western officials saying they are forced to the frontline by poor moral and discipline among Russian troops. Ukrainian forces were already claiming to have killed at least 12 Russian generals by early May, according to The New York Times.

    The General Staff of the Armed Forces of Ukraine wrote on Facebook that Major General Tsokov had been injured as part of their latest "operation update" on the war, published on Thursday.
    The post read: "The enemy continues to suffer losses, in particular among the leadership.

    "According to available information, the commander of the 144th Motorized Rifle Division of the 20th Combined Arms Army, Major General Tsokov, was wounded as a result of a fire attack in the area of ​​the settlement of Svatove. It was evacuated on September 20 of this year."

    The Ukrainian military typically describes a "fire attack" as one carried out either by artillery or rocket launchers, such as the HIMARS system that has devastated Russian ammunition depots.

    Over the past 24 hours, Russia shelled at least 45 Ukrainian settlements, primarily in the eastern region of the Donbas, according to the operational update on Facebook.

    During this time period, the Russians said 27 airstrikes and 75 multiple launch rocket system strikes were conducted, targeting both "military and civilian objects."

    The update said Russia is continuing to suffer heavy losses and has been forcing men in occupied Ukrainian territory to join its military or allied militias.

    The post read: "From September 19 to 20 this year, 105 bodies of dead Russian servicemen were delivered to the military hospital in Rostov-on-Don, preparations are underway to receive another 200 bodies in the near future.

    "To replenish manpower losses, the enemy continues forced mobilization in temporarily occupied territories. Thus, in Horlivka, on September 19, representatives of the 1st Army Corps detained and took ten men to military service, regardless of their age or health."

    The U.S. has been supplying Ukraine with intelligence to help with these strikes, according to senior American officials speaking to The New York Times.

    On Wednesday, President Putin announced a partial mobilization, which will see 300,000 Russian reservists conscripted back into the military.

    Referendums will be held in the Russian-controlled parts of Donetsk, Luhansk, Kherson and Zaporizhzhia on formally joining the Russian Federation, though these have been rejected as shams by Western officials.

    According to Novaya Gazeta Europe, an independent Russian newspaper, a hidden clause in Putin's mobilization decree will allow the military to draft 1 million people, rather than the 300,000 claimed by Defense Minister Sergei Shoigu.

    Newsweek has contacted the Russian Foreign Ministry for comment.

    https://www.newsweek.com/russian-com...kraine-1745618

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    I could provide you with any amount of war porn from the Russian side too snubs. Yawwwwn.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sabang View Post
    He isn't done though. His popularity remains buoyant- around 69% pre-mobilisation
    In his own mind and in his fake popularity polls created for idiots.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sabang View Post
    I could provide you with any amount of war porn from the Russian side too snubs. Yawwwwn.
    Yes but that would require you taking it off your bedroom ceiling.

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    Luhansk, Donetsk, Zapo & Kherson are about to be annexed, and declared Russian sovereign territory. So what are you gonna do about it- take childish, impotent little potshots at other posters? Yeh, that's about right because that is all you can do. You are impotent.


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    Quote Originally Posted by sabang View Post
    He isn't done though
    Of course he is and he knows it. All we see now is his deperate actions to try to remain in power.
    Just a matter of time Vlad. There ain't no fixin this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sabang View Post
    I could provide you with any amount of war porn from the Russian side too snubs.
    You utter imbecile, the Russians have not killed any Ukrainian generals. If you do not want to read war progress reports, do not bother coming into the thread. It is about the war, not a knitting class. You just do not want to see reports proving that Putin is having his ass handed to him on plate.

    Quote Originally Posted by sabang View Post
    Luhansk, Donetsk, Zapo & Kherson are about to be annexed
    Not for long, the Ukrainians are coming. You have more humiliation coming.

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    We shall watch your brave predictions unfold, as Russia annexes 4 Ukr provinces and trebles it's troop contingent in what was once the Ukrainian federation. All preventable- the neo-cons have excelled themselves, yet again. Instead of blindly cheerleading them why don't you just get rid of them?

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    You are an utter imbecile who frankly is completely detached from reality. Get ready for what is coming this winter. You have more humiliation coming.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sabang View Post
    Luhansk, Donetsk, Zapo & Kherson are about to be annexed, and declared Russian sovereign territory. So what are you gonna do about it- take childish, impotent little potshots at other posters? Yeh, that's about right because that is all you can do. You are impotent.
    More revoltingly smug cheerleading of the war criminal from our resident psychic.

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    In the immortal words of 10CC "waddya gonna do about it, waddya gonna do".

    All preventable. A colossal failure of diplomacy. Take another bow, you hubristic neocon assholes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sabang View Post
    In the immortal words of 10CC "waddya gonna do about it, waddya gonna do".

    All preventable. A colossal failure of diplomacy. Take another bow, you hubristic neocon assholes.
    All preventable because no-one made the war criminal invade.

    But you're happy about it, you disgusting excuse for a human.

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    I wonder what the Iraqi's and Afganis and Syrians and Libyans and Vietnamese said? They have swear words too. Like me, I doubt they care what you say. Again, all preventable. A colossal failure of Diplomacy, from dickhead hubristic assholes that have failed us yet again. Get rid of them.

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