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    Riyadh: the Beautiful, the Serene

    Saudi Arabia Wants Its Capital to Be Somewhere You’d Want to Live

    The crown prince’s next grand plan is to defy the skeptics and turn Riyadh into a greener, cooler city for twice the population.
    By Vivian Nereim (Bloomberg)
    December 16, 2021

    On Riyadh’s King Abdulaziz Road, construction workers sweep sand off a brand-new sidewalk. A gardener pops a spindly plant out of a plastic pot and gives it a new home in the ground, smoothing the soft red earth with his hands.

    Behind them, 15-foot-high banners advertise the future gardens and canals of King Salman Park, a plan to turn an air base in Saudi Arabia’s desert capital into a public green space four times bigger than Central Park in New York.

    15-foot-high banners advertise the future gardens and canals of King Salman Park in Riyadh, on Dec. 14.
    Photographer: Tasneem Alsultan/Bloomberg

    Saudis have gotten used to breakneck change over the past five years under Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman, whether it’s the shock therapy to turn the kingdom into a post-oil economy, a high-tech city from scratch on the Red Sea or the loosening up of society that allows men and women to mix more freely. But among the most ambitious plans is to transform Riyadh — one of the world’s most sprawling, car-dependent and water-poor cities — into a paragon of sustainability.

    That means spending tens of billions of dollars of oil revenue on re-engineering life for the city’s 8 million residents, adding sidewalks, public transportation, electric vehicles, neighborhood parks and millions of trees.
    The goal is to green the capital enough to lower its ambient temperature by 2 degrees Celsius (3.6 degrees Fahrenheit), giving the city a cushion against climate change in a region where summer temperatures exceeding 110 degrees Fahrenheit are already common.

    Tree-planting beside roads is part of efforts to green the capital.
    Photographer: Ali Almubarak/Royal Commission for Riyadh City

    If that doesn’t sound challenging enough, Prince Mohammed also wants to double Riyadh’s population in 10 years, turning what was a relatively conservative city even by Saudi standards into a regional business hub that can compete for talent with Dubai. It would be difficult to attract the highly-educated foreigners he wants to move to Riyadh without making the city more livable.

    “The idea is very simple: reduce sprawl and ensure density in the city is increased,” said Fahd Al-Rasheed, head of the Royal Commission for Riyadh City, charged with implementing the plan. “The city is built already for that kind of capacity — it’s double the size of Singapore.”

    Skeptics abound, of course, at home and abroad. Saudi Arabia is the world’s largest crude exporter and has the highest carbon dioxide emissions per capita among the G-20 nations.
    The crown prince’s blueprint for his country’s future, called “Vision 2030,” calls for new industries from entertainment to defense and a complete overhaul of the economy. Yet the country’s fortunes still rise and fall with oil and the prince has been trying to rebuild his reputation among foreign investors after Saudi security forces murdered Washington Post columnist Jamal Khashoggi in 2018.
    There are also the practicalities of making Riyadh the nerve center of the new Saudi Arabia: the city’s population has already exploded 50-fold since 1950, gridlocking its streets and guzzling its limited water supply.

    Construction workers on King Abdulaziz Road near an advertisement for a 2,000-seat theater.
    Photographer: Tasneem Alsultan/Bloomberg

    “The key issue for me when you hear about these very ambitious strategies and proposals is whether that really constitutes a massive change, or is it just sort of window dressing — kind of green washing,” said Yasser Elsheshtawy, an adjunct architecture professor at Columbia University who focuses on Arab cities.

    Indeed, previous attempts to remake Riyadh fell short of their targets, including a city development strategy 20 years ago that called for many of the same changes as today.

    But if officials succeed even partially, Riyadh will offer the world a case study on how urban areas can adapt to rising temperatures and water shortages.
    “I doubt if there is a much harsher environment than what we have here,” said Saleh Al-Hathloul, a Saudi architect and former town planning official. “If we can do it, then it can be done anywhere.”
    Riyadh’s problems are partly a legacy of its rapid growth. When Al-Hathloul moved to Riyadh in the 1960s, it was still possible to walk from one side of town to the other. Before the oil boom transformed the kingdom, residents typically lived in traditional mud houses along narrow shaded pathways.

    Over the next few decades, Saudi Arabia was one of the fastest-urbanizing countries in the world. International planners including the Greek architect Constantinos Doxiadis were brought in to shape the capital as builders struggled to keep up with demand.
    Riyadh became a city of wide avenues that baked in the sun. Today, the lushest landscapes are hidden inside royal palaces and private homes. Sidewalks are disjointed or nonexistent; life without air conditioning is almost unthinkable. Sometimes you need to call a taxi just to cross the street.

    The city’s population has already exploded 50-fold since 1950, gridlocking its streets.
    Photographer: Tasneem Alsultan/Bloomberg

    “It’s like you had your grandmother’s recipe that came throughout the generations and you started to go to McDonald’s and you forgot how to do that,” said Abdulelah Alsheikh, a former bureaucrat who helped draft the strategy in 2001. He’s now the country head of engineering firm Jacobs. “We’ve lost our way maybe, and those skills need to be brought back.”

    To do that, Al-Rasheed, the official in charge of Riyadh’s makeover, wants to halt the city’s endless spread north into the desert and start building denser, taller and greener.

    A $92 billion sustainability strategy aims to cut Riyadh’s carbon emissions in half. It calls for planting 15 million trees and boosting the use of treated water for irrigation from 11% to 100%. Officials plan to mandate that 30% of all vehicles in the city be electric by 2030. A nearly finished metro system could carry 4 million people a day.

    A $92 billion sustainability strategy aims to cut Riyadh’s carbon emissions and calls for planting 15 million trees.
    Photographer: Tasneem Alsultan/Bloomberg

    “You increase the amount of sewage treatment and use that water to actually green the city. You lower temperatures, that lowers the need for air conditioning,” said Al-Rasheed. "It’s a system-based thinking.”

    In Al-Rasheed’s vision, the future Saudi family might live in an an apartment instead of a villa, spending leisure time in a park instead of their backyard. That’s a shift for a culture that values privacy highly and will require a new mentality and way of life, said Mashary Al-Naim, an architecture professor at Imam Abdulrahman bin Faisal University in Dammam.

    That rethink puts Riyadh in the company of cities from Miami to Bangkok that are grappling with how to adapt to climate change. Copenhagen is aiming to be the world’s first carbon-neutral capital by 2025. Tokyo’s 2016 environmental master plan calls for reducing greenhouse gas emissions by 30% and new measures to combat summer heat waves.

    None of them are aiming to double their population, though — a target that’s left many Saudis aghast, even as they dream of a more livable future for their capital.

    “The main problem here is these initiatives are always top-down, which sort of precludes the input of people,” said Elsheshtawy, the Columbia professor. “There is a disconnect between policies that are being implemented and then how they are actually being carried out on the ground.”

    Some Saudi urban planners are hopeful that the new Riyadh will succeed this time because it has the full weight of the monarchy behind it. But sometimes the emphasis on a grand vision can overshadow smaller measures that could have a big impact on quality of life, several of the planners and architects said.

    The crown prince’s blueprint for his country’s future, called “Vision 2030,” calls for new industries from entertainment to defense and a complete overhaul of the economy.
    Photographer: Tasneem Alsultan/Bloomberg

    Alsheikh gave the example of Wadi Hanifah, a verdant valley that weaves through Riyadh. It was once a garbage dump and source for construction materials. A program to rehabilitate it took decades to turn it around.

    On a recent balmy weekend, cyclists and pedestrians made their way along dirt paths. Birds chirped and smoke wafted from grills as families laid out blankets for picnics.

    “Now it’s beautiful,” Alsheikh said. “But when people see it and experience it, they don’t know how much it took.”
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    Quote Originally Posted by tomcat View Post
    a plan to turn an air base in Saudi Arabia’s desert capital into a public green space four times bigger than Central Park in New York.
    So, plenty of room to bury spare body parts in..........

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    I ma sure women are queueing to be subjugated.
    Perhaps they need to remind teh punters about the awful hygiene, blaring mosques, dangerous drifting , racist locals , compared to Ar Riyadh even Dammam, Jeddah or Al Jubail seem less like shitholes and they are probably in the 4 worst places in the world.

    From personal experience the only place to be in Riyadh s in the business lounge paid off waiting to board a plane out of the Magic Kingdom, fuck even Birmingham, Beirut, Teheran, Rochester New York or Klongtoey aren't that bad in comparison?

    Luckily have a new leader who know how to chop thru will undoubtedly help?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tomcat
    Riyadh: the Beautiful, the Serene





    Perhaps in 50-100 years, when the oil runs out. Until then, it will continue to be the world’s cesspool.

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    Quote Originally Posted by beachbound View Post
    Perhaps in 50-100 years, when the oil runs out.
    The aquifers may run out before that.

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    Something in the region of 50 megstonnes would be a great start

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    Quote Originally Posted by beachbound View Post
    Perhaps in 50-100 years, when the oil runs out.
    You're kidding yourself if you think there is that much oil left.

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    Let the oil run out and the Saudis return to the barren wilderness they belong. They squandered money on greed and have built nothing but hate with it.

    I won't even fly over such a barbaric shithole...

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    Quote Originally Posted by pickel View Post
    The aquifers may run out before that.
    Nope. You are drinking the climate change kool aid

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    Quote Originally Posted by Backspin View Post
    Nope
    ...heavy drawdowns from Central Province agriculture and the demands of an increasing population have greatly reduced aquifer resources...that's one reason desalinated water is piped up to Riyadh from Jubail...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Troy View Post
    I won't even fly over such a barbaric shithole...
    I won't be sad when I leave Saudi, but I don't hate the country.

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    Quote Originally Posted by happynz View Post
    I won't be sad when I leave Saudi, but I don't hate the country.
    ...that's how I felt...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Backspin View Post
    Nope. You are drinking the climate change kool aid
    Aquifers in Saudi are nowt to do with climate change you uneducated buffoon.
    Last edited by Saint Willy; 18-12-2021 at 06:13 PM.

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    The number of topics on which he’s proven his abject stupidity over the years is almost impressive.

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    Aquifers in Saudi are nowt to do with climate change you uneducated buffon.

    rising temperature increases evaporative demand over land, which limits the amount of water to replenish groundwater, you uneducated "buffon" sic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by taxexile View Post
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    rising temperature increases evaporative demand over land, which limits the amount of water to replenish groundwater, you uneducated "buffon" sic.
    Nice googling. But doesn't apply to Saudi as the desert is not replenishing any groundwater.

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    Giant Rave in Saudi Desert Pushes Kingdom’s Changing Boundaries

    By Vivian Nereim (B;oomberg)
    December 19, 2021


    • Four-day electronic music festival was officially sanctioned
    • Rapid social changes unfolding as entertainment sector grows


    Festival-goers at the MDL Beast Soundstorm 2021 in Riyadh, Saudi Arabia, on Dec. 17. Photographer: Neville Hopwood/Getty Images/Getty Images/MDL Beast Soundstorm


    The party in the Saudi desert looked like any other rave until the music stopped for the Islamic call to prayer, leaving attendees in ripped skinny jeans and combat boots to stand in silence.

    Fifteen minutes later -- religious duties completed -- thousands of party-goers got back to business. Men and women danced with abandon in a country where that would have been unthinkable five years ago.

    The electronic music festival in Saudi Arabia this weekend highlighted the changes catapulting through the conservative kingdom under its controversial crown prince, Mohammed bin Salman. In just a few years, the prince has lifted a ban on women driving, loosened gender segregation and defanged the religious police, who used to roam the streets punishing restaurants that played music.

    In contrast, the four-day festival called MDL Beast Soundstorm was endorsed by the government and included performances by global DJs like Tiësto and Armin van Buuren. Organizers say more than 180,000 people attended the opening night, pushing boundaries as the kingdom transforms.

    “Allow us progress, allow us to represent ourselves in the way that we feel fit,” said Prince Fahad Al Saud, a royal family member and entrepreneur who attended in a psychedelic-patterned jacket and sparkling eyeliner. “We are very eager to be part of the international community, but we can’t be stifled every time we try to make progress because it doesn’t look like what you want to see.”

    A music festival with men and women dancing side by side would have been unthinkable in Saudi Arabia just 5 years ago - this year, organizers of “MDL Beast” say 180,000 attended. Vivian Nereim reports on the festival pushing the boundaries of a changing kingdom.

    Busy Month

    Indeed, the festival was part of a dizzying month in which Saudi Arabia hosted a Formula One race, two separate art biennials and a visit by French President Emmanuel Macron. All of it underlined the fact that any ostracism on the world stage has largely passed for Prince Mohammed, who faced global outcry after the 2018 murder of government critic Jamal Khashoggi by Saudi agents in Istanbul.

    The prince’s plans to diversify the oil-dependent economy call for developing new sectors such as entertainment and tourism. And after closing the kingdom’s borders during much of the coronavirus pandemic, officials seem eager to make up for lost time -- even as the omicron variant of the virus drives case surges in other countries.

    Festival-goers at the MDL Beast Soundstorm 2021 in Riyadh, Saudi Arabia.
    Photographer: Darren Arthur/Getty Images/MDL Beast Soundstorm

    At a recent international film festival in Jeddah, women strutted the red carpet in sleeveless gowns and an openly queer man, Adam Ali, won best actor. British supermodel Naomi Campbell was photographed sitting on the floor in front of a traditional Saudi meal, eating with her hands.
    “Now everything is here and the world has come to us,” marveled Abdullah Alghamdi, 29, who attended the weekend rave. “There are honestly so many events that you don’t know where to go.”

    Queer Culture


    The scenes at the music festival were the most extreme of any yet. Women flaunted their style, wearing everything from skintight pants to full-length robes and face veils. Inebriated men stumbled through crowds perfumed with the distinct scent of marijuana, alongside a limited but notable display of local queer culture. Alcohol and homosexuality are still illegal in Saudi Arabia, but the event created a carnival-like atmosphere, opening the space to test limits.

    Any critical voices were largely silent. Under Prince Mohammed, Saudi Arabia’s social opening has come with a crackdown on domestic dissent. Driving that fact home, officials closed every other large-scale event in Riyadh “for maintenance” for the duration of the festival, sparking sardonic jokes about the government forcing people to attend.

    But to Ibrahim Fahad, a 21-year-old tourism and hospitality student, the festival was a long-awaited dream.
    “I can’t even describe my feelings,” he said, posing for pictures as bass pounded in the background. “Before music opened up in Saudi Arabia, I used to travel to see artists like The Chainsmokers. Now I can stay at home, because they’re here.”

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    It feels performative. Can the House of Saud be trusted?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Saint Willy View Post
    Can the House of Saud be trusted?
    ...of course not...however, *cough*, Riyadh is still the gayest city I know...

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    Quote Originally Posted by tomcat View Post
    ...of course not...however, *cough*, Riyadh is still the gayest city I know...
    Is it really? Learn something new.

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    My question is, were Saudi women allowed in that party? I looked at the pic and found mostly men. I did see 1 blonde-ish girl, so she's most likely a foreigner. Until KSA comes out of the dark ages, most tourists won't go.

    Sadly, there will still be Filipino workers (construction, hotel staff, domestic helpers, etc) going there because that's one of the few places where they can earn more money to uplift the lives of their families.

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    Quote Originally Posted by katie23 View Post
    were Saudi women allowed in that party?
    ...a friend who attended said there were women, some seated, some dancing alone, some dancing...with men!...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Saint Willy View Post
    Is it really? Learn something new.
    ...horny Saudi men deprived of female company are a joy...

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    I've been through the desert on the whores with no name.
    If you gay love camels, Arabs and Islam it's paradise, sadly it only ticked I need make shedloads to pay off houses box, but that did work for me for a short time.


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    Quote Originally Posted by david44 View Post
    it only ticked I need make shedloads to pay off houses box
    ...a number of British friends/acquaintances were there for the same reason: pay off a UK dwelling, then look for something else on the southern coast of Turkey, a condo in Cyprus or a place somewhere on Spain's southern coast...

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