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    Biden’s Exclusive Democracy Summit Disappoints

    Biden’s Exclusive Democracy Summit Disappoints

    By embracing some countries and excluding others, the US has squandered an opportunity to unite South Asia – at least ideologically – against Beijing.

    By Mohamed Zeeshan
    December 13, 2021

    Biden’s Exclusive Democracy Summit Disappoints – The Diplomat

    I'm sure the .... hour conference was a great success, really.

    A tray full of GOLD is not worth a moment in time.

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    Chinkies getting their sycophants to start bleating on their behalf.

    S.O.P.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OhOh View Post
    the US has squandered an opportunity to unite South Asia – at least ideologically – against Beijing
    ...no matter: the Mainland is already doing a good job of that...

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    who was crying? Myanmar?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Saint Willy View Post
    Myanmar?
    Exclusive: Myanmar to include yuan in settlement currency for border trade with China


    By Global Times Published: Dec 15, 2021 11:28 AM

    "Myanmar will include yuan in its official settlement currency for border trade with China, and the targeted settlement scale in the pilot phase is set at around 2 billion yuan ($314 million), equivalent to about one fifth of the value of cargo border trade between the two countries via inland routes, sources close to the matter told the Global Times.

    The move aims to address a crunch of US dollar and other foreign currencies that Myanmar now faces, after the Southeast Asian country was mired in an economic meltdown amid instable political situation, sources and analysts said. China's booming trade with Myanmar will provide a stable source for Myanmar banks to access yuan, helping alleviate its financial difficulty.

    It also marks an important step in China's joint efforts with neighboringcountries to push forward yuan's internationalization and counter US dollar hegemony, as dollar has largely aided US' bullying practices to impose unilateral sanctions on other country, analysts said.

    The yuan's use in trade settlement will pilot in border trade at the initial stage, focusing on transactions of small commodities and daily necessities, which the locals call "small trade."

    "In the future, the yuan'ssettlement will expand to cover what we called 'big trade,' which refers mainly to container cargo shipping loaded with big commodities, marine products, machines and equipments," the anonymous source noted."


    Exclusive: Myanmar to include yuan in settlement currency for border trade with China - Global Times

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    So the chinkies are protecting a regime that beats and tortures people, and in the case of a journalist and some combustible villagers, murders them.

    I suppose to the horrible chinky bastards, this seems a normal modus operandus.

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    An alternative solution is offerred:

    Russia, China a Model of Inter-State Relations and Peace

    December 17, 2021

    Russia and China are proof that an alternative basis of international relations is possible. And fortunately, both are strong enough to prevail for the sake of peace.

    "For many observers around the world, the cordial and cooperative relations between Russia and China are inspiring, precisely at a time of mounting international tensions and belligerence.

    Russia’s President Vladimir Putin hailed the bilateral relations between Russia and China as a model for inter-state cooperation in the 21st century.

    In a videoconference this week with Chinese counterpart Xi Jinping, the two leaders expressed warm greetings of friendship. Putin described the border between their countries as representing “a belt of eternal peace and good-neighborliness”.


    President Xi said that both nations based their sound relations on principles of mutual respect and non-interference in internal affairs, in accordance with, globally agreed international law and the UN Charter. Both countries, too, he noted, were committed to advancing people-centered development as a genuine manifestation of democracy and human rights.

    Referring to the United States and its Western allies, the Chinese leader adroitly remarked how “international forces” had appointed themselves the right to meddle in the affairs of China and Russia under the duplicitous guise of advocating democracy and human rights. In doing so, these foreign powers were “trampling” all over international law and stoking dangerous tensions.

    It is hard to disagree with that assessment. Just in recent weeks, the United States and its allies in the G7, NATO and European Union have been amplifying accusations against Russia and China over alleged malign conduct. It’s all sound and fury signifying little in the way of substance. Step back from the shrill rhetoric and sensational claims and what is actually apparent is an attempt to manipulate public opinion into accepting Western aggression towards Russia and China. The poachers are making themselves the gamekeepers in an audacious inversion of reality.

    The Western powers arrogantly assume the right to rebuke over a bewildering array of issues. There is a vast media campaign of public perception management going on. In short, propaganda and psychological gaslighting.

    Russia and China are accused of “authoritarianism”; of abusing human rights; of threatening Ukraine on the one hand and Taiwan on the other. China is condemned for alleged “genocide” against its Uighur people and “as a result” the U.S. and its allies are conducting a diplomatic boycott of the Winter Olympic Games in Beijing.

    The evidence for all these tendentious claims is flimsy if non-existent.

    The United States and the European Union are relentless in their accusations of a Russian military build-up and threat to invade Ukraine. Sanctions are drawn up to potentially cripple the Russian economy. But where’s the evidence or even credible logic? The U.S. and European governments and Western media have not reported any substantive evidence to back up their claims against Russia. Moscow has consistently and categorically rejected these claims as “hysterical nonsense”.


    Russian troops are on Russian territory. The supposed satellite images depicting military build-up “on Ukraine’s borders” are of Russian troops in established bases such as Yelnya in Smolensk Oblast hundreds of kilometers from the border. Meanwhile, American and NATO warplanes and warships are increasingly menacing Russia’s borders in unscheduled maneuvers thousands of kilometers from their bases.

    This is all ludicrous and is hardly worthwhile rebutting every accusation since it is time-consuming to do so. Provocative narratives are distractions from reality.

    The germane point is this: the U.S. and its Western allies are self-anointed to throw pejorative claims at Russia and China when the reality is they are hurling bricks in glasshouses. Washington and its European partners have run amok for decades, destroying nations with illegal foreign wars, killing en masse civilians from drone assassinations and indiscriminate bombings. These criminal governments have no shame in smearing others with accusations that resonate a thousand-fold with the appalling reality of their own heinous misconduct.

    Just look at some events this week. Russia has called on the United States and its NATO allies to agree on a mutual basis for security in Europe pertaining to its borders. So far, the U.S.-led military bloc has rebuffed Moscow’s reasonable concerns. NATO’s secretary-general Jens Stoltenberg arrogantly dismissed Russia’s appeals for the bloc to cease its eastward expansion. (Somehow it seems fitting that this automaton is reportedly applying to become the next head of Norway’s central bank after he steps down from NATO. It’s all just careerism and payoffs for Stoltenberg, who, as the quip goes, is more secretary than general.)

    Then we have the European Union’s unelected wooden president Ursula von Der Leyen announcing that the bloc has prepared sanctions that will have “massive consequences” on Russia’s economy “in the event of further military aggression on Ukraine”. Based on what? What aggression is she talking about? The one that the United States intelligence agencies have told her to mouth like a ventriloquist? She is certainly not referring to the aggression of the U.S. and NATO funneling billions of dollars of weapons into a Neo-Nazi regime in Kiev that is waging a war against a civilian population in Southeast Ukraine for the last nearly eight years. (Russian President Putin is correct to describe that siege as resembling genocide.)

    Western media report breathlessly on how Russia and China have “seen their relations deteriorate with the West”. But such media don’t explain or investigate why such deterioration is happening.
    It is essentially instructive that the United States and its European powers are self-evidently behaving as Neo-colonialists and imperialists. They presume to have the superior right to interfere in other nations based on self-righteous arrogance and self-serving machinations.

    It is absurd that the United States is declaring a diplomatic boycott of China’s Olympic Games given its own legion of flagrant violations and crimes against humanity, past and present. Australia and Canada have living legacies of genocide and yet they too have the brass-necks to pontificate to China about unsubstantiated claims of human rights abuses.

    Going down this cynical, hypocritical path is par for the course for Western states. It is their inherent modus operandi. But ultimately it is futile. It inevitably leads to conflict and war.

    Western relations towards Russia and China are becoming crystal clear in their incorrigible belligerence. The United States and its capitalist-imperialist partners-in-crime simply cannot coexist with other nations in peace and cooperation. The principles of peace and lawful respect for others are anathemas.

    The toxic, destructive behavior of Western powers is more and more a transparent disgrace in today’s world. By contrast, Russia and China are proof that an alternative basis of international relations is possible. And fortunately, both are strong enough to prevail for the sake of peace."

    https://www.strategic-culture.org/ne...ons-and-peace/

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    The germane point is this: the U.S. and its Western allies are self-anointed to throw pejorative claims at Russia and China when the reality is they are hurling bricks in glasshouses. Washington and its European partners have run amok for decades, destroying nations with illegal foreign wars, killing en masse civilians from drone assassinations and indiscriminate bombings. These criminal governments have no shame in smearing others with accusations that resonate a thousand-fold with the appalling reality of their own heinous misconduct.

    Most Heinous.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OhOh View Post
    An alternative solution is offerred:
    An alternative title is offered:

    "Putin and Mr. Shithole kiss each others arses".

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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    So the chinkies are protecting a regime that beats and tortures people, and in the case of a journalist and some combustible villagers, murders them.
    At least Beijing feels comfortable in their company

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    I just had my butt waxed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by spliff View Post
    I just had my butt waxed.
    Getting some ladyboy to drip a hot candle on your arse before he sodomises you is not "having your butt waxed". Perhaps you misinterpreted what he said.

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    A snippet of an interview the Russian Foreign Minister gave to a Russian journalist, television presenter and radio host, Vladimir Solovyov on Russia-1.

    Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov’s interview with Solovyov Live YouTube channel, Moscow, December 27, 2021


    27-12-2021

    "Vladimir Solovyov:

    Who is a democracy now? Is it us, or the countries that hold “forums for democracy,” and choose convenient partners?

    Russia and China are not invited, labelled as authoritarian states.


    Sergey Lavrov:


    This is immaterial now. Who is a democracy and who isn’t. At least for me, these terms have lost their meaning.

    You mentioned the Summit for Democracy convened by US President Joe Biden. If you look closely at the list of participants, they were not even selected according to the criteria of what is called American democracy, what they consider exemplary for democratic states.

    The overwhelming majority are those who unquestioningly follow the US policy line. Plus a few others that have their own approach but want to have good relations with the United States. In fact, everyone wants to have good relations with other countries; it all depends on the price.

    Now plans have been announced to promote the Summit for Democracy next year, to establish an organisation. This is an overt bid to develop an alternative to the UN, suggesting the old members are behind the times, conservatives and retrogrades, while they are forward-looking trailblazers carrying the “beacon of freedom.”

    It is going to be another attempt to move the decision-making centre from universal platforms, where one needs to argue their position to their own platforms, where no one really disputes what they say.

    This means truth is unlikely to be born there."

    The full interview covered a range of subjects and can be found here?

    https://mid.ru/en/foreign_policy/news/1792420/

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    Quote Originally Posted by OhOh View Post
    Now plans have been announced to promote the Summit for Democracy next year, to establish an organisation. This is an overt bid to develop an alternative to the UN,
    what is your little axis between the Chinks and Russia?

    The UN has been losing credibility since its been found that Chinky cash has been buying influence over the past decade across various despotic countries and their ambassadors in the UN, that is why its no longer trusted by the western powers and they have decided to marginalise it - rightly so.
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    Quote Originally Posted by malmomike77 View Post
    what is your little axis between the Chinks and Russia?
    I suspect the "little axis" is becoming a snowball running down the hill, gathering more snow every minute of every day. Following the two countries leader's public statements appears that they are gaining traction in many places by small, medium and large, developed or undeveloped countries.

    Quote Originally Posted by malmomike77 View Post
    that is why its not longer trusted by the western powers and they have decided to marginalise it - rightly so.
    NaGastan losing its grip of certain portions of the UN.

    Unfortunately for NaGastan, there are no other "western powers" don't you agree?

    France and UK, come on, Emmanuel Jean-Michel Frédéric Macron and Boris?

    The UN is for all the signatories, not just the "western powers"?

    Ignore their legally signed treaties that the whole world agreed and signed up too. SOP for some "western"countries".

    One hopes that, if an alternative is created, the result is equally kept free of influence, from what ever source.

    But whether anything is created,

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    Quote Originally Posted by OhOh View Post
    move the decision-making centre from universal platforms, where one needs to argue their position to their own platforms
    aka the TC gambit

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    its no longer trusted by the western powers and they have decided to marginalise it
    And thus, they marginalise themselves. Real smart.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sabang View Post
    And thus, they marginalise themselves. Real smart.
    If you think they're going to be alone . . . seriously, sabang? Added to which, malmo is talking shit again - opinion dressed as reality.

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