Thread: Poland sends troops to Belarus border

^ frankly the whole channel crossing issue is beyond a joke and the French scum are party to it. Most claiming asylum but the EU allowing them to flout the Dublin Rule which states they must make their claim in the first country they enter - they are all playing the game as economic migrants who've crossed the EU with impunity and the EU doesn't care because it a) cannot control them and b) they end up in the UK so are not their problem.

We should kick all the fuckers back to the EU

Originally Posted by malmomike77

^ frankly the whole channel crossing issue is beyond a joke and the French scum are party to it. Most claiming asylum but the EU allowing them to flout the Dublin Rule which states they must make their claim in the first country they enter - they are all playing the game as economic migrants who've crossed the EU with impunity and the EU doesn't care because it a) cannot control them and b) they end up in the UK so are not their problem.

We should kick all the fuckers back to the EU

I agree with everything. It is a joke that they flout the Dublin regulation and why the fuck are we still a part of it if we are not a part of the EU anymore.

They should just be flown back but surprise surprise their countries do not even want them because they are not actually refugees but mostly criminals.

NB. I am totally in support of legal migration through the correct channels. I think it is a very positive thing for ones country and in some cases quite a necessity. However, you must know who these people are and what danger, if any, they present to the rest of the country.

Well the UK should abate the EU settlement by £1M for every blood sucker that the French allow to cross, see how quick things change.

Perhaps the UK armed forces should be protecting UK borders instead.

I've recently been working for the DWP for the last year, regarding asylum, resettlement, refugee status.

And I agree to all of the above, there is many of these people who have no intention of integrating into UK society.

The system is being totally abused by many of these people and to make matters worse it charities that cause all the shit.

Well the country is bound by the legal profession and we cannot lay a finger on them and this is the problem all countries are facing - no ability to control them. Something will have to give. Human right laws have been weaponised by the legal profession.

Originally Posted by malmomike77

Well the UK should abate the EU settlement by £1M for every blood sucker that the French allow to cross, see how quick things change.

Yeah but then that just gets into tit for tat and we are better than that; that is the kind of shit they pull.

Originally Posted by panama hat

and this opens an interesting question as to when does a a UK issue or an EU issue become a NATO issue?

When the country which is a NATO member asks for NATO assistance. The EU has made it amply plain it holds NATO in distain and would rather follow its own military EU path....right up until Putin comes knocking.

Originally Posted by Bonecollector

that is the kind of shit they pull.

^^ agreed but its all they understand, has ever been thus inside Belgium.

Originally Posted by sabang

Perhaps the UK armed forces should be protecting UK borders instead.

I think they are hoping they can stem the flow in other ways. I have also read that some of the 'refugees' at the Polish border are ex-fighters from Iraq and Syria specifically picked by bare chest man to be flown in. It is pretty much an act of war in my opinion, these people could have fought for ISIS or a number of organizations who have the blood of British and American soldiers on their hands.

Originally Posted by malmomike77

^^ agreed but its all they understand, has ever been thus inside Belgium.

Yes it definitely is all they understand. I think the French are particularly petulant and they seem to always be the ones instigating childish rhetoric and behavior. Some parts of their cities you just can't even walk into without getting racially abused or even worse assaulted.

^^ this is the real worry. We have enough trouble with certain groups already and daily we have more entering of unknown origin, background and intent.

Originally Posted by malmomike77

Well the country is bound by the legal profession and we cannot lay a finger on them and this is the problem all countries are facing - no ability to control them. Something will have to give. Human right laws have been weaponised by the legal profession.

Could well be scrapped in the near future, the Tories have said they want to repeal the act.

Originally Posted by malmomike77

^^ this is the real worry. We have enough trouble with certain groups already and daily we have more entering of unknown origin, background and intent.

Yes Mike it is a real issue this anonymity of some of these people. Fake documents and passports can be had for 100$ in Iraq or Syria. You do not know what you are getting.

Anyways = as i said something will have to be done. You cannot simply keep absorbing people from countries spewing them out annually as their population continues to grow no matter what the bleeding heart liberals will have you believe.

Originally Posted by Chico

Could well be scrapped in the near future, the Tories have said they want to repeal the act.

Yea unfortunately the Tories say a lot but due to the fear of the cancel wacko's, you have to be very careful how you handle things nowadays.

Iraq halts flights to Belarus as part of bid to end migrant crisis at Polish border


Iraq's foreign ministry says it has halted direct flights to Belarus from Iraq in a bid to protect Iraqis against human trafficking gangs.
Key points:

• European officials have repeatedly said their best hope of resolving the crisis at the frontier is to stop would-be migrants from boarding flights for Belarus
• Turkey has denied playing a direct role by allowing its territory to be used to ferry in migrants
• Thousands of migrants are sheltering on the borders between Belarus and EU states Poland and Lithuania

"The Iraqi embassy in Moscow and Warsaw [will] coordinate Iraq's efforts for the voluntary return of those who are stranded at the Belarus border," the Iraqi state News Agency quoted the ministry spokesperson as saying.

"Iraq has stopped direct flights between Iraq and Belarus," he added.

The move came after Turkey banned Syrian, Yemeni and Iraqi citizens from catching flights to Minsk, potentially closing off one of the routes used by migrants who the EU says have been flown in by Belarus to create a deliberate humanitarian crisis on its border.

European officials have repeatedly said their best hope of resolving the crisis at the frontier is to stop would-be migrants in the Middle East from boarding flights for Belarus in the first place.

Turkey has denied playing a direct role by allowing its territory to be used to ferry in migrants. But Minsk airport's website listed six flights arriving from Istanbul on Friday, the most from any city outside the former Soviet Union.

Turkey's Civil Aviation General Directorate, known as SHGM, said on Friday it would ban citizens from Syria, Iraq and Yemen buying plane tickets to Belarus. The Belarusian state-owned airline Belavia said it would comply with the request.

"In relation to the illegal border crossing problem between the European Union and Belarus, it has been decided for citizens from Iraq, Syria and Yemen wanting to travel to Belarus from our country's airports not to be sold tickets and not to be allowed on planes," SHGM said on Twitter.


Thousands of migrants, mainly from the Middle East, are sheltering in freezing conditions in the woods on the borders between Belarus and EU states Poland and Lithuania, which are refusing to let them cross.
Some have already died and there are fears for the safety of the rest as bitter winter conditions settle in.


Belarus denies creating crisis as it calls for sanctions to be lifted

The European Union accuses Belarus of creating the crisis as part of a "hybrid attack" on the bloc — distributing Belarusian visas in the Middle East, flying in the migrants and encouraging them to try to cross the border illegally.

Brussels may impose new sanctions on Belarus and airlines it blames for ferrying the migrants as soon as Monday.

Belarus has denied it manufactured the crisis, but has also said it cannot help resolve it unless Europe lifts sanctions the EU imposed to punish President Alexander Lukashenko for a violent crackdown on mass street protests against his rule in 2020.

Mr Lukashenko, a close ally of Russia, threatened this week to cut off Russian gas supplies to Europe through pipelines across Belarusian territory.

On Friday, the Kremlin appeared to distance itself from that threat, saying it was not consulted in advance of Mr Lukashenko's remarks and it would fulfil its gas delivery contracts.

However Russian paratroopers staged joint drills near the borders of Poland and Lithuania on Friday.

The exercise at the Gozhsky training ground involved airborne units landing and carrying out combat training, the Belarusian Defence Ministry said.

The drills involved Russian Ilyushin Il-76 military transport planes and helicopters of the Belarusian Air Force, Minsk said in a statement circulated on social media.

While that was going on inside Belarus, the UK Ministry of Defence (MOD) confirmed it had offered support to Poland at the border with Belarus.

"A small team of UK Armed Forces personnel have deployed following an agreement with the Polish Government to explore how we can provide engineering support to address the ongoing situation at the Belarus border," the MOD said on Twitter.

The Polish Border Guard said there had been 223 attempts to illegally cross the border on Thursday.

With the situation continuing to develop, EU foreign ministers may approve more Belarus sanctions on Monday that could include individuals and companies, according to one diplomat.

The bloc's executive commission said airlines that brought migrants would be on the list, and two diplomats said the main airport in Belarus was also being considered.
Reuters/AP

Iraq halts flights to Belarus as part of bid to end migrant crisis at Polish border - ABC News

Sabang my good fellow. That last page was black and blank.

^^ Do look again sir.

Originally Posted by russellsimpson

I trace this back to the continuous pressure that the west has been putting on Belarus regarding its civil liberties or lack thereof.

They are Putins pawns, nothing more. And he can hind behind them to press his causes with the EU

Even if that were true, is it a crime? Surely it is their choice. Likewise Aukus (-US). Uncle Sams pawns, nothing more. Through choice. Is that a crime too?

Originally Posted by Bonecollector

Indeed they are BUT when questioned, a majority of the 'refugees' said that their final destination was the UK.

Really?

Originally Posted by malmomike77

The EU has made it amply plain it holds NATO in distain ...

Again . . . really?


Trifecta:

Originally Posted by Chico

Could well be scrapped in the near future

Originally Posted by panama hat

Quote Originally Posted by Bonecollector View Post
Indeed they are BUT when questioned, a majority of the 'refugees' said that their final destination was the UK.
Really?

Chai krap

Originally Posted by sabang

Belarus denies creating crisis as it calls for sanctions to be lifted

Luckily their actions are not transparent at all . . . as pure as Putin's mind