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    Quote Originally Posted by Hugh Cow View Post
    Just like China but without WMDs. Why is China even commenting? I thought they didnt comment on a countries internal affairs and get upset when countries comment on theirs. They complain about Australias potential nuclear proliferation yet build nuclear weapons and nuclear submarines. Whats that called? Hypocrisy I think.
    Nah, it's called whingeing.

    The chinkies do it all the time.

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    AUKUS in breach of NPT, damaging regional security: EU MP

    TEHRAN, Oct. 02 (MNA)

    "Referring to US-Australia nuclear submarine agreement, Clare Daly says providing weapons-grade enriched uranium to a non-nuclear weapon state to power military submarines is a provocative action in a highly contested region.

    "Many believe the deal will affect the non-proliferation treaty negatively. What do you think of this?
    What’s at stake here is the provision of weapons-grade enriched uranium to a non-nuclear weapons state to power military submarines which will engage in provocative action in an already highly contested region.

    The Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty allows for the exchange of civil nuclear technology, but only for peaceful purposes - what’s happening with AUKUS could hardly be called that, so it would appear to me to be in breach of it.
    How do you assess the effect of such moves on the region's security and stability?

    More aggressive action from the US towards China is the last thing the world needs, and this deal is clearly meant to be read aggressively by the Chinese. To be honest, the Chinese foreign minister put it well when he said the alliance risks ‘severely damaging regional peace... and intensifying the arms race’, as well as demonstrating an ‘obsolete Cold War... mentality’. This deal is bad for regional stability, and, in common with all deals that lead to the proliferation of weapons, bad for the world."

    AUKUS in breach of NPT, damaging regional security: EU MP - Mehr News Agency
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    ^ Ireland are well known as global peace brokers, without their influence and that of the EU over the past 30 years the world would be a burnt husk. OhOh just how long do you hunt down these news articles or are they sent to you on a daily feed from the yellow bloke with purple lips?

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    Quote Originally Posted by malmomike77 View Post
    ^ Ireland are well known as global peace brokers, without their influence and that of the EU over the past 30 years the world would be a burnt husk. OhOh just how long do you hunt down these news articles or are they sent to you on a daily feed from the yellow bloke with purple lips?
    Don't be daft, Clare Daly is a soap dodging champagne socialist who was thrown out of the Labour party for being too extremist.

    She's also a pikey terrorist sympathiser.

    Just the sort of witless harridan to speak up about Mad Mullah rights.

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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    Clare Daly is a soap dodging champagne socialist who was thrown out of the Labour party for being too extremist.

    She's also a pikey terrorist sympathiser.

    Just the sort of witless harridan to speak up about Mad Mullah rights.
    So, right up OhWoe's alley

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    Quote Originally Posted by panama hat View Post
    So, right up OhWoe's alley
    Anyone soap-dodging lefty or snivelling chinky sycophant who hates the West is ok in Hoohoo's book.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OhOh View Post
    AUKUS in breach of NPT, damaging regional security: EU MP

    TEHRAN, Oct. 02 (MNA)

    "Referring to US-Australia nuclear submarine agreement, Clare Daly says providing weapons-grade enriched uranium to a non-nuclear weapon state to power military submarines is a provocative action in a highly contested region.

    "Many believe the deal will affect the non-proliferation treaty negatively. What do you think of this?
    What’s at stake here is the provision of weapons-grade enriched uranium to a non-nuclear weapons state to power military submarines which will engage in provocative action in an already highly contested region.

    The Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty allows for the exchange of civil nuclear technology, but only for peaceful purposes - what’s happening with AUKUS could hardly be called that, so it would appear to me to be in breach of it.
    How do you assess the effect of such moves on the region's security and stability?

    More aggressive action from the US towards China is the last thing the world needs, and this deal is clearly meant to be read aggressively by the Chinese. To be honest, the Chinese foreign minister put it well when he said the alliance risks ‘severely damaging regional peace... and intensifying the arms race’, as well as demonstrating an ‘obsolete Cold War... mentality’. This deal is bad for regional stability, and, in common with all deals that lead to the proliferation of weapons, bad for the world."

    AUKUS in breach of NPT, damaging regional security: EU MP - Mehr News Agency
    Do you think Australians give a fook what China thinks? When China gets rid of its nuclear weapons and nuclear subs, we will cancel the order. What's good for the goose is good for the gander. In other words hypocrites. The last country Australia would listen to about nuclear non proliferation is a country that proliferates with nuclear weapons. The gall of people like you that think no one else is allowed to use nuclear power. If your mates hadn't been so busy with threats this never would've occurred. We are not the agressor here and everyone in the world knows that apart from you. China's propaganda like yours, only works in China, not anywhere where people are allowed to think for themselves, which is obviously not you either. Are you really that blind and stupid you think anyone outside of Sabang and Klondyke believe that rubbish?
    China should stop interfering in our internal affairs. (Where have I heard that before?) China is heading down the track of a war with the west that they cannot win. The combined forces of the west could obliterate China back to the stone age both militarily and financially. Ping is as dangerous as was Trump. Hopefully the CCP hierarchy will not want their nice little earner being upset by their Dictator and he will "decide" to "retire" in the not to distant future.

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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    Clare Daly is a soap dodging champagne socialist
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hugh Cow View Post
    The gall of people like you that think no one else is allowed to use nuclear power.
    The UN NP treaty suggests otherwise.

    Quote Originally Posted by Hugh Cow View Post
    We are not the agressor here
    No you are one of a group who believe illegaly slaughtering foreign citizens is perfectly acceptable, or as some have said, "it was worth it".

    Quote Originally Posted by Hugh Cow View Post
    China should stop interfering in our internal affairs.
    Which OZ internal affairs intererace are you referring to?

    UK Governor General dismissing your duly elected OZ PM?

    Quote Originally Posted by Hugh Cow View Post
    China is heading down the track of a war with the west that they cannot win.
    Whose military studies are you referring to? Recent NaGastani military studies disagree. Other than Global Nuclear War, are you advocating that?

    Quote Originally Posted by Hugh Cow View Post
    The combined forces of the west could obliterate China back to the stone age both militarily and financially.
    Whose military/financial studies are you referring to? Recent NaGastani military studies disagree. Other than Global Nuclear War, are you advocating that? Some financial experts disagree.

    Or is your military/financial expertise gained from elsewhere?

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    Originally Posted by Hugh Cow (US will share nuclear submarine technology with Australia in new defense partnership)
    The combined forces of the west could obliterate China back to the stone age both militarily and financially.
    Not sure who might find that funnier- the Taliban or the PLA.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OhOh View Post
    The UN NP treaty suggests otherwise.
    Except you're lying and it doesn't

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    [QUOTE=OhOh;4316667]The UN NP treaty suggests otherwise.

    Err.. something like UNCLOS?


    No you are one of a group who believe illegaly slaughtering foreign citizens is perfectly acceptable, or as some have said, "it was worth it".

    Err...Tibet?


    Which OZ internal affairs intererace are you referring to?

    Err.. Chinese agents threatening chinese student in Australia. Interfering with Australia's right to ask where a pandemic that costs millions of lives really started? If you're still ignorant this might get you up to speed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hugh Cow View Post
    Which OZ internal affairs intererace are you referring to?
    Quote Originally Posted by OhOh View Post
    UK Governor General dismissing your duly elected OZ PM?
    .....

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    Quote Originally Posted by OhOh View Post
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    So, you still have sweet fuck all . . . no surprise.


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    Originally Posted by Hugh Cow (US will share nuclear submarine technology with Australia in new defense partnership)
    Which OZ internal affairs intererace are you referring to?




    Originally Posted by OhOh (US will share nuclear submarine technology with Australia in new defense partnership)
    UK Governor General dismissing your duly elected OZ PM?



    1: refer to video. sorry its not in Chinese.

    2: It was the Australian governor general who was Australian born was selected by the Australian parliament and the queen rubber stamps the choice. Likewise he can be removed from office by the Australian parliament.
    You are showing your ignorance of the Australian parliamentary system but in your defence I'm sure you are too busy studying the rubber stamp called the Chinese communist peoples congress and think all countries are similar you poor deluded communist tool.

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    ^ I believe the moron is referring to Whitlam . . . but he gets his facts wrong even then

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    Quote Originally Posted by OhOh View Post
    ..... UK Governor General dismissing your duly elected OZ PM?
    John Kerr,

    Born:
    September 24, 1914, Balmain, Sydney, New South Wales - He was a true blue Ozzie.

    Gough Whitlam, appointed John Kerr governor-general in July 1974


    You now nothing of Australian Politics - we Australians CHOOSE to remain a commonwealth nation (Many Referendums), for reasons you do not have the capacity to understand.


    Kerr - quite rightly - got rid of Gough Whitlam in 75 - he had few choices back then.

    I voted for Gough and Labor back in 72. he did MANY good things, but the entire Labor Party was as "bent as a two bob watch".

    NOTE: Labor - NOT Labour, is the correct spelling of the Australian party

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ennis View Post
    You now nothing of Australian
    . . . not about anything that isn't spoon-fed him from Global Times

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    Quote Originally Posted by OhOh View Post
    AUKUS in breach of NPT, damaging regional security: EU MP

    TEHRAN, Oct. 02 (MNA)

    "Referring to US-Australia nuclear submarine agreement, Clare Daly says providing weapons-grade enriched uranium to a non-nuclear weapon state to power military submarines is a provocative action in a highly contested region.

    "Many believe the deal will affect the non-proliferation treaty negatively. What do you think of this?
    What’s at stake here is the provision of weapons-grade enriched uranium to a non-nuclear weapons state to power military submarines which will engage in provocative action in an already highly contested region.

    The Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty allows for the exchange of civil nuclear technology, but only for peaceful purposes - what’s happening with AUKUS could hardly be called that, so it would appear to me to be in breach of it.
    How do you assess the effect of such moves on the region's security and stability?

    More aggressive action from the US towards China is the last thing the world needs, and this deal is clearly meant to be read aggressively by the Chinese. To be honest, the Chinese foreign minister put it well when he said the alliance risks ‘severely damaging regional peace... and intensifying the arms race’, as well as demonstrating an ‘obsolete Cold War... mentality’. This deal is bad for regional stability, and, in common with all deals that lead to the proliferation of weapons, bad for the world."

    AUKUS in breach of NPT, damaging regional security: EU MP - Mehr News Agency
    You do realise they will be supplying nuclear fuel to a "Non nuclear state" with the biggest uranium reserves in the world, around 5 times the chinese reserves. Australia could have developed a large nuclear industry but has chosen to use it for peaceful purposes only, unlike china.
    China in a way was responsible for the forming of AUKUS. Their bullying trade and military tactics have given them the exact opposite outcome they were looking for. Aquiesence to an agressive bullying foreign power is not politically popular in Australia. Whilst China's military strength is far superior to Australia, it would do well to remember it's not just the size of the dog in the fight. It's the size of the fight in the dog.
    A country that was sitting on the fence and could've been an intermediary for dialogue between east and west has now taken sides. Even Duterte has now realised appeasement does not work with a country that is only interested in vassel states.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hugh Cow View Post
    China in a way was responsible for the forming of AUKUS.
    ...agree...and for many other outcomes that annoy the mainlanders: increased US support for Taiwan, louder international noise (due primarily to the sequestering of a Chinese tennis star) about boycotting the Beijing Olympics, rising fear and loathing in India due to persistent border incursions, bullying of Vietnam and the Philippines over the absurd "9-Dash Line", etc...
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    Obviously nothing to do with our mounting paranoia. Aukus is so regressive, it's like a museum piece of 19th century nostalgia. But what would the coolies know about that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sabang View Post
    Aukus is so regressive
    ...possibly, but also a predictable response to clumsy Mainland attempts at domination...and an outcome the elderly gnomes of Beijing might have foreseen...

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    I applaud the convicts for sticking two fingers up to the chinkies.

    Everyone should do it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tomcat View Post
    ...possibly, but also a predictable response to clumsy Mainland attempts at domination...and an outcome the elderly gnomes of Beijing might have foreseen...
    Unfortunately their diplomatic skills are at the lower end of the scale. The response they received would've been foreseen by most diplomatically able governments. Hubris is their weakness and their achilles heel.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tomcat View Post
    rising fear and loathing in India
    One suspects the Indian government has a different perspective:

    China, Russia, India FMs hold video conference, reaching broad consensus on global affairs


    By Global Times Published: Nov 27, 2021 10:52 PM Updated: Nov 28, 2021 10:11 AM

    "China, Russia and India released a joint communique on Saturday following the 18th meeting of the foreign ministers of the three countries on November 26 that took place in the format of digital video conference. The ministers reached consensus on a broad range of international issues, including expressing support for the upcoming Beijing Winter Olympic Games.

    The meeting took place against the backdrop of headwinds caused by the COVID-19 pandemic, a bumpy economic recovery as well as continuing threats of terrorism, extremism, drug trafficking, trans-national organized crime, natural and man-made disasters, food security and climate change, the communique noted.

    According to the communique, the ministers exchanged views on further strengthening the Russia-India-China trilateral cooperation and also discussed various regional and international issues of importance. The ministers stressed the necessity of regular high-level meetings to foster closer cooperation among them.

    The ministers underlined that SCO as an influential and responsible member of the modern system of international relations that plays a constructive role in securing peace and sustainable development, and consolidating ties of good-neighborliness and mutual trust.

    The ministers underlined the importance of a timely, transparent, effective and non-discriminatory international response to global health challenges including pandemics, with equitable and affordable access to medicines, vaccines and critical supplies.

    They called for strengthening the policy response capability of the World Health Organization in the fight against Covid-19 and other global health challenges, while urging for making COVID-19 vaccination a global public good.

    The ministers reiterated that a multi-polar and rebalanced world based on sovereign equality of nations and respect for international law and reflecting contemporary realities requires strengthening and reforming of the multilateral system. They also reaffirmed commitment to upholding international law, including the purposes and principles enshrined in the Charter of the United Nations.

    The three ministers reaffirmed their support for a transparent, open, inclusive and non-discriminatory multilateral trading system, with the World Trade Organization (WTO) at its core. They reiterated their support for the necessary reform which would preserve the centrality, core values and fundamental principles of the WTO while taking into account the interests of all members, especially developing countries and the group of Least Developing Countries.

    The ministers agreed that the imposition of unilateral sanctions beyond those adopted by the UN Security Council (UNSC) as well as "long-arm jurisdiction" were inconsistent with the principles of international law, have reduced the effectiveness and legitimacy of the UNSC sanctioning regime, which had a negative impact on international economic and trade relations. They called for a further consolidation and strengthening of the operating mechanism for the UNSC Sanctions Committee to ensure its effectiveness, responsiveness and transparency.

    They reiterated the importance of full implementation of the Joint Comprehensive Plan of Action (JCPOA) and UNSC Resolution 2231 and expressed their support for efforts to ensure the earliest reinvigoration of the JCPOA which represents a landmark achievement for multilateral diplomacy and nuclear non-proliferation.

    The meeting also underlined the importance each country attaches to multiple regional cooperative mechanisms, like the intra-BRICS cooperation, the Shanghai Cooperation Organization, G-20, and the Association of Southeast Asian Nations (ASEAN).

    The ministers also reaffirmed their commitment to climate action through the implementation of the Kyoto Protocol and Paris Agreement. They also expressed their support towards China to host of the Beijing 2022 Winter Olympic and Paralympic Games.


    China, Russia and India have chosen development paths suited to their own national conditions and they have the responsibility to foster a correct view of democracy, escape from the "democracy trap" set by certain countries and oppose interference in other countries' internal affairs under the pretext of democracy, Wang said, adding that the US government-organized "democracy summit" will create division and bring negative energy to the world."


    China, Russia, India FMs hold video conference, reaching broad consensus on global affairs - Global Times

    Nothing from the tree Foreign Miniser's officil sites, regarding the meeting, posted today.

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