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    New Zealand Cops Kill ISIS Supporter Who Stabbed Six in Grocery Store

    Police in New Zealand fatally shot a Sri Lankan man who was a “known security threat” after he stabbed six people inside an Auckland grocery store on Friday afternoon. The man, who has not been named, had been under police surveillance and was a “supporter of ISIS ideology,” according to New Zealand Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern.


    “This afternoon at approximately 2:40 p.m., a violent extremist undertook a terrorist attack,” Ardern confirmed to reporters. “This was a violent attack, it was senseless, and I am so sorry it happened.”

    Police had the man under surveillance when he entered the grocery store and it took them less than a minute to respond, but not before he was able to grab a knife from a display case and stab at least six people, New Zealand Police Commissioner Andrew Coster said Friday. A witness inside the store told Reuters that the man was shopping and then grabbed a knife and started “running around like a lunatic” stabbing people.


    Three of the injured are currently in critical condition, Coster said.


    The man had been resident in New Zealand since 2011 and caught the attention of police in Oct. 2016, Ardern said. He had been in court multiple times but a suppression order tied to ongoing court cases made it impossible for her to name him. Ardern told reporters that she had been made aware of the perpetrator in the past, but that he had not committed a crime punishable by prison.


    “I acknowledge this situation poses questions about whether police could have acted faster or done more,” Coster told reporters at a Friday press conference. “I am confident we have done everything we can within the law... we were doing everything we could to monitor him. The fact we were able to react within 60 seconds shows that.”


    When asked if the attack could have been tied to the March 2019 mosque shootings that killed 51 people in two mosques in Christchurch, Ardern said the man acted alone and that his faith could not be blamed. “It was hateful, it was wrong. It was carried out by an individual, not a faith,” Ardern said. “He alone carries the responsibility for these acts. It would be wrong to direct any frustration to anyone beyond this individual.”


    The attack comes as Auckland battles rising COVID cases. The grocery store where the incident took place was one of the few stores open due to a Level 4 lockdown.

    https://www.thedailybeast.com/new-ze...-grocery-store

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    Quote Originally Posted by misskit View Post
    March 2019 mosque shootings that killed 51 people in two mosques in Christchurch
    Quote Originally Posted by misskit View Post
    New Zealand Cops Kill ISIS Supporter Who Stabbed Six in Grocery Store


    Quote Originally Posted by misskit View Post
    “It was hateful, it was wrong. It was carried out by an individual, not a faith,”
    If religion is not to blame for either of these attacks, then I do not know what is.

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    man who was a “known security threat” after he stabbed six people inside an Auckland grocery store on Friday afternoon. The man, who has not been named, had been under police surveillance and was a “supporter of ISIS ideology,” according to New Zealand Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern.
    The man had been resident in New Zealand since 2011 and caught the attention of police in Oct. 2016, Ardern said. He had been in court multiple times but a suppression order tied to ongoing court cases made it impossible for her to name him.
    Ardern said the man acted alone and that his faith could not be blamed. “It was hateful, it was wrong. It was carried out by an individual, not a faith,” Ardern said.
    .... and its liberal shite like that .... a known islamic extremist, followed around for years by a police force hamstrung by the type of lefty protocol that is regularly spouted out by educationalists, social media whores and the parliamentarians of western democracies as they seek to pander to the whims of the wok .... that make western society a laughing stock in the eyes of the eastern and middle eastern dictatorships that are slowly but surely on the way to becoming the worlds power brokers, both militarily and economically as our influence disappears down the toilet.

    the man should have been incarcerated in 2016.

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    Quote Originally Posted by taxexile View Post
    and its liberal shite like that
    Right. So it is liberal shit and not the rule of law...

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    He had been in court multiple times but a suppression order tied to ongoing court cases made it impossible for her to name him.
    You trumpanzees are in a hurry to worship the Murdock family and other nasty right wing oligarchs. To turn the world into a police state, apparently.

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    Quote Originally Posted by taxexile View Post
    the man should have been incarcerated in 2016.
    A. For what?

    B. He had just recently been released from prison.

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    in order to protect the interests and safety of the law abiding, it is necessary to remove from society those who would kill and maim the law abiding.

    if he had been arrested and imprisoned in 2016, he would still be alive, and 6 people would be safe. the law is an ass.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bsnub View Post




    If religion is not to blame for either of these attacks, then I do not know what is.
    What you mean the white supremacist that shot 51 people did it because of his religion?

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    A. For what?
    for being a threat to law abiding new zealanders. isnt that enough ? a threat serious enough to warrant round the clock surveillance for 5 years. how much did that cost the taxpayers?

    christ, the public could not even be given the identity of a suspected murderous extremist.

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    Quote Originally Posted by misskit View Post
    March 2019 mosque shootings that killed 51 people in two mosques in Christchurch
    Quote Originally Posted by bsnub View Post
    If religion is not to blame for either of these attacks, then I do not know what is.
    The March 2019 Christchurch mosque shootings were carried out by a right-wing, white supremacist.

    Christchurch mosque shootings - Wikipedia

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    Quote Originally Posted by taxexile View Post
    for being a threat to law abiding new zealanders. isnt that enough ? a threat serious enough to warrant round the clock surveillance for 5 years. how much did that cost the taxpayers?

    christ, the public could not even be given the identity of a suspected murderous extremist.
    So you want to have people imprisoned or have their identity announced on the assumption that they are a threat?

    Fascist much?

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    An ISIS-inspired terrorist who was shot dead by police after going on a stabbing rampage in an Auckland shopping centre had earlier made chilling threats about giving 'payback to Kiwi scums' - but was let off with just a police warning.



    Six people have been left fighting for life in hospitals across New Zealand's north island on Friday afternoon while the knifeman was shot dead within 60 seconds by police inside the Countdown supermarket in New Lynn, in the city's south.

    Three of the victims were described as 'critical' with neck and chest wounds.


    Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern revealed on Friday the 32-year-old Sri Lankan national, known only as 'S' for legal reasons, was considered one of the nation's most dangerous extremists and was watched 24/7 since 2016.


    He arrived in New Zealand in 2011 but only became known to police in 2016 after posting 'staunchly anti-Western and violent' material on Facebook including footage depicting war-related violence, the NZ Herald reported.



    Police let him off with a warning but he continued to be active online.

    'One day I will go back to my country and I will find kiwi scums in my country ... and I will show them ... what will happen when you mess with S while I'm in their country. If you're tough in your country ... we are tougher in our country scums #payback',' S wrote on Facebook.

    A year later in 2017, S was detained at the Auckland International Airport when travelling on a one-way ticket to Singapore.

    Police allege he told worshippers in his mosque that he intended to join ISIS.

    A large hunting knife had been found in his apartment when searched by police along with a photo of him holding an air rifle and other images glorifying violence.

    S was held in custody for a year and eventually pleaded guilty to charges of distributing restricted material.

    The day after he was released in August, 2018 he bought another hunting knife and was arrested again.


    When police again searched his home they found more disturbing footage including a video of Islamic State cutting a prisoner's throat.

    Prosecutors tried to charge S last year under the Terrorism Suppression Act 2002 but a High Court ruled it was not considered an offence under the act to plan a terrorist attack.



    He was prosecuted on lesser charges and found guilty of possessing propaganda-style material supportive of Islamic State, before being sentenced to one year of supervision to be served at a mosque.

    Ms Ardern described Friday's attack as 'despicable'.

    'What happened today was despicable, hateful and wrong,' she said. 'It was carried out by an individual, not a faith or religion. He was gripped by violent and ISIS inspired ideology that is not supported here.'

    'ISIS INSPIRED' TERRORIST'S CRIMINAL PAST

    The knifeman who was shot dead in a Countdown supermarket on Friday was known to police and politicians for his extremist views, which were largely inspired by terror group, ISIS.

    The man, known only as 'S' due to High Court suppression orders, arrived in New Zealand in 2011 from Sri Lanka and was first placed on the terror watchlist in 2016 after authorities were alerted to extremist posts he made on social media.

    Some of the videos he shared online depicted war-related violence, a clear approval of violent extremism and pledging his support for ISIS, New Zealand Herald reported.

    He received an official warning by police but continued to post the material, including a comment which read: 'One day I will go back to my country and I will find kiwi scums in my country... and I will show them... what will happen when you mess with S while I'm in their country. If you're tough in your country... we are tougher in our country scums #payback'.

    'S' reportedly told a worshiper at a mosque that he hoped to join ISIS in Syria and was detained at Auckland International Airport in 2017 after booking a one-way flight to Singapore.

    He spent a year in custody before pleading guilty to distributing restricted material, earning a supervision order in 2018.

    The day after he was released from prison, 'S' was arrested by counterterrorism police who followed him as he purchased a hunting knife.

    Internet search history reportedly found he'd researched how to kill 'non-believers'.

    Police hoped to prosecute 'S' under the Terrorism Suppression Act 2002, but it was determined that preparing a terrorist attack was not an offence under the legislation, given he had not carried out any attacks.

    He was prosecuted on lesser charges of possessing propaganda in support of ISIS.

    During his trial, 'S' reportedly told the jury: 'You're worried about one knife, I am telling you I will buy 10 knives. It's about my rights.'


    A surveillance team and special tactics group monitored the man at all times and plain clothes officers were able to respond in 60 seconds when he launched his rampage.

    It is understood the man obtained a knife from within the store.

    Ms Ardern reiterated that if the offender had committed a crime in the past that would have allowed authorities to put him in prison, 'that's where he would have been'.

    'The reason he was in the community is because within the law we could not put him anywhere else. His past behaviour was, within the threshold of the law, not enough to put him in prison.'

    S had reportedly performed internet searches asking about the guidelines of 'lone-wolf mujahideen', knife attacks and prison conditions in New Zealand.

    Disturbing footage of the attack was shared online, showing customers running to safety as at least 10 police units swarmed the surrounding streets.

    A witness told Stuff people were 'running out, hysterically, just screaming, yelling, scared' as an elderly man laid injured on the floor and a middle-aged woman was stabbed in the shoulder.



    The offender was reportedly acting 'like a lunatic' and indiscriminately lunging at anybody in his path, the witness said.

    Another woman said she heard police ordering the offender to surrender before five gunshots rang out.

    Two officers were involved in shooting him dead.

    The three victims who remain in a critical condition were rushed to Auckland City hospital along with a fourth person in a serious condition.

    One victim in a stable condition was taken to Waitakere Hospital while another was rushed to Middlemore Hospital.

    Two of the victims were rushed straight into emergency abdominal surgery.





    Read more:
    Auckland mall terror attack: Isis sympathiser had been arrested for allegedly planning 'lone wolf' knife attack - NZ Herald


    yes ant. lets all look to the law for guidance. its not against the law to plot a terrorist attack, and when an isis sympathiser repeatedly tools up with hunting knives after being politely requested to stop it, he is sentenced to a year of supervision in a mosque. a fucking mosque for christs sake.

    it is quite unbelievable.

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    You get what you vote for.

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    Quote Originally Posted by havnfun View Post
    You get what you vote for.
    You wanna explain that in the context of the deadliest terror attack in NZ history having been carried out by a racist Aussie?

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    Quote Originally Posted by taxexile View Post
    .... and its liberal shite like that .... a known islamic extremist, followed around for years by a police force hamstrung by the type of lefty protocol
    Honestly, you'd have more credibility if you bothered to do a bit of background research. The man entered Aotearoa New Zealand 2011. The government at that time was ran by National, a centre right party. The National Party could hardly be described as a bastion of leftists.

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    However, despite police concerns that he was planning a "lone wolf" attack, he was charged only with possessing terrorist propaganda because of a legal ruling that plotting an attack was not itself an offence. A judge at the time described it as an "Achilles Heel" in the country's laws, but said it was up to parliament to change it.
    Ms Ardern won international praise for her compassionate response to the 2019 mosque shootings, but Friday's violence is likely to lead to questions about why the attacker was allowed to remain free if the authorities deemed him dangerous enough to warrant constant observation.

    Denouncing the "hateful" assault, Ms Ardern said: 'The fact that he was in the community will be an illustration that we haven't succeeded in using the law to the extent we would have liked."
    New Zealand supermarket stabbings carried out by 'IS-inspired' extremist on terror watchlist


    hmmm, looks like questions are being asked.

    they must have read my posts.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AntRobertson View Post
    You wanna explain that in the context of the deadliest terror attack in NZ history having been carried out by a racist Aussie?
    Maybe that nutter "slowed the spread".

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    So you want to have people imprisoned or have their identity announced on the assumption that they are a threat?
    Surely that would depend upon the extent &/or immediacy of the Threat?

    This jhadboy was actually a Sri Lankan national. I'm curious why he was even allowed to stay in NZ (not saying it would have been different in oz, mind you).

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    Last year, the Crown had sought to prosecute S under the Terrorism Suppression Act 2002, but a High Court judge ruled that preparing a terrorist attack was not in itself an offence under the legislation
    Auckland mall terrorist attack: Isis sympathiser had been arrested for allegedly planning '''lone wolf''' knife attack - NZ Herald

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    Quote Originally Posted by misskit View Post
    Police had the man under surveillance when he entered the grocery store and it took them less than a minute to respond
    The one point in the news article that everyone has skipped over, Thankyou to the police.

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    It never ceases to bemuse what is / isn’t allowed to stand in threads like this.

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    Fired a warning shot to the head which he failed to heed.

    He supported ISIS ideology but being Sri Lankan there is no guarantee he is Muslim. Only 7% of Sri Lankans are . Mostly Buddhist or Hindu

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    Quote Originally Posted by AntRobertson View Post
    It never ceases to bemuse what is / isn’t allowed to stand in threads like this.
    Heaven forbid anyone should hold a position you don't approve of

    If he was enough of a threat they needed to have 2 armed offenders squad officers following him at all times (at what cost?) surely he was enough of a threat to be detained or deported.

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    Quote Originally Posted by VocalNeal View Post
    Fired a warning shot to the head which he failed to heed.

    He supported ISIS ideology but being Sri Lankan there is no guarantee he is Muslim. Only 7% of Sri Lankans are . Mostly Buddhist or Hindu
    I would say that considering he supported ISIS he was definitely a muslim. Probably entered NZ as a refugee.

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    [QUOTE

    If he was enough of a threat they needed to have 2 armed offenders squad officers following him at all times (at what cost?) surely he was enough of a threat to be detained or deported.[/QUOTE]

    Carefull; you are attempting to inject common sense into a TD thread...😊

    You really have to wonder what kind of lawmakers pass legislation that doesn't make planning a terrorist attack an offence..🙄

    The police tried to get the prick locked up but the courts hands were tied. So, the police have their hands tied; the courts hands are tied because a bunch of woke politicians can't get their shit together.

    Maybe they will now be a bit more motivated to come up with something a bit more effective.... before the next untouchable jihadist import gets fired up.

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    Can guarantee that the people inside that shopping center did not wish the police called a social worker before they shot him.

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