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    Quote Originally Posted by Buckaroo Banzai View Post
    Haiti has been a basket case for as long as I can remember.
    ...and even longer than that, I imagine...I visited the country for a weekend in the early 70s, staying at a small French family-run hotel: excellent rum, interesting nativist art, deplorable everything else...PauP was a huge festering slum dotted with the large mansions of the "elite"...exactly what early "independence" achieved escapes me...
    Majestically enthroned amid the vulgar herd

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    Quote Originally Posted by HuangLao View Post
    Connecting the dots yet, Harry? Or...perhaps not.
    Same as it ever was.

    Will be interesting to see what Wikileaks finds on it over the next couple years

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    Quote Originally Posted by tomcat View Post
    ...and even longer than that, I imagine...I visited the country for a weekend in the early 70s, staying at a small French family-run hotel: excellent rum, interesting nativist art, deplorable everything else...PauP was a huge festering slum dotted with the large mansions of the "elite"...exactly what early "independence" achieved escapes me...

    Knowing that Haiti has been a U.S. vassal state forever might assist in understand their history.
    They're still looking for independence from their subliminal colonial masters.

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    Haiti police say 26 Colombians, two US-Haitians took part in Jovenel Moïse assassination
    Seventeen captured men paraded in front of journalists, as police chief says another three were killed and eight remain on the run

    People cheer as a police car drives past at the Petionville Police station where armed men, accused of being involved in the assassination of President Jovenel Moise, are being held in Port au Prince



    A heavily armed commando unit that assassinated Haiti’s president, Jovenel Moïse, was composed of 26 Colombians and two Haitian Americans, authorities have said, as the hunt goes on for the masterminds of the killing.


    Haiti police say 26 Colombians, two US-Haitians took part in Jovenel Moise assassination | Haiti | The Guardian

    Sounds like the plot of a movie.

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    Colombians eh. Maybe he wasn't cooperating with the cartels.

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    Haiti's interim government asks U.S. for security assistance

    Haiti's interim government said Friday that it asked the U.S. for security assistance to protect key infrastructure as it tries to stabilize the country and prepare the way for elections in the aftermath of the assassination of President Jovenel Moïse.

    "We definitely need assistance and we've asked our international partners for help," Interim Prime Minister Claude Joseph told The Associated Press in an interview, declining to provide further details. "We believe our partners can assist the national police in resolving the situation."

    Joseph said that he was dismayed by opponents who've tried to take advantage of Moïse's murder to seize political power — an indirect reference to a group of lawmakers have declared their loyalty and recognized Joseph Lambert, the head of Haiti's dismantled senate, as provisional president and Ariel Henry, whom Moïse designated as prime minister a day before he was killed, as prime minister.

    "I'm not interested in a power struggle," Joseph said in the brief phone interview, without mentioning Lambert by name. "There's only one way people can become president in Haiti. And that's through elections."

    Joseph spoke just hours after the head of Colombia's police said that the Colombians implicated in Moïse's assassination were recruited by four companies and traveled to the Caribbean nation in two groups via the Dominican Republic. Meanwhile, the U.S. said it would send senior FBI and Homeland Security officials to help in the investigation.

    Haitian National Police Chief Léon Charles said 17 suspects have been detained in the brazen killing of Moïse that stunned a nation already reeling from poverty, widespread violence and political instability.

    As the investigation moved forward, the killing took on the air of a complicated international conspiracy. Besides the Colombians, among those detained by police were two Haitian Americans, who have been described as translators for the attackers. Some of the suspects were seized in a raid on Taiwan's Embassy where they are believed to have sought refuge.

    At a news conference in Colombia's capital of Bogota, General Jorge Luis Vargas Valencia said four companies had been involved in the "recruitment, the gathering of these people" implicated in the assassination, although he did not identify the companies because their names were still being verified.

    Two of the suspects traveled to Haiti via Panama and the Dominican Republic, Vargas said, while a second group of 11 arrived in Haiti on July 4 from the Dominican Republic.

    In Washington, White House Press Secretary Jen Psaki said senior FBI and Department of Homeland Security officials will be sent to Haiti "as soon as possible to assess the situation and how we may be able to assist."

    "The United States remains engaged and in close consultations with our Haitian and international partners to support the Haitian people in the aftermath of the assassination of the president," Psaki said.

    Following Haiti's request for U.S. assistance, a senior administration official reiterated Psaki's earlier comments that the administration is sending officials to assess how it can be most helpful, but added there are no plans to provide military assistance at this time.

    The U.S. sent troops to Haiti following the last presidential assassination in the country, the murder of President Vilbrun Guillaume Sam in 1915 at the hands of an angry mob that had raided the French Embassy where he had sought refuge.

    Investigative Judge Clément Noël told the French-language newspaper Le Nouvelliste that the Haitian Americans arrested, James Solages and Joseph Vincent, said the attackers originally planned only to arrest Moïse, not kill him. Noël said Solages and Vincent were acting as translators for the attackers.

    The same newspaper quoted Port-au-Prince prosecutor Bed-Ford Claude as saying he ordered an investigative unit of the National Police Force to interrogate all the security agents close to Moïse. These include Moise's security coordinator Jean Laguel Civil and Dimitri Hérard, head of the General Security Unit of the National Palace.

    "If you are responsible for the president's security, where have you been? What did you do to avoid this fate for the president?" Claude said.

    The attack, which took place at Moïse's home before dawn Wednesday, also seriously wounded his wife, who was flown to Miami for treatment.

    Joseph assumed leadership with the backing of police and the military and declared a two-week "state of siege." Port-au-Prince already has been on edge amid the growing power of gangs that displaced more than 14,700 people last month alone as they torched and ransacked homes in a fight over territory.

    The killing brought the usually bustling capital to a standstill, but Joseph urged the public to return to work.

    Solages, 35, described himself as a "certified diplomatic agent," an advocate for children and budding politician on a now-removed website for a charity he started in 2019 in south Florida to assist resident of his home town of Jacmel, on Haiti's southern coast.

    Solages also said he had worked as a bodyguard at the Canadian Embassy in Haiti, and on his Facebook page, which was also taken down after news of his arrest, he showcased photos of armored military vehicles and a shot of himself standing in front of an American flag.

    Canada's foreign relation department released a statement that did not refer to Solages by name but said one of the men detained for his alleged role in the killing had been "briefly employed as a reserve bodyguard" at its embassy by a private contractor.

    Calls to the charity and Solages' associates went unanswered. However, a relative in south Florida said Solages doesn't have any military training and doesn't believe he was involved in the killing.

    "I feel like my son killed my brother because I love my president and I love James Solages," Schubert Dorisme, whose wife is Solages' aunt, told WPLG in Miami.

    Taiwan's Embassy in Port-au-Prince said police had arrested 11 individuals who tried to break into the compound early Thursday. It gave no details of their identities or a reason for the break-in but in a statement referred to the men as "mercenaries" and strongly condemned the "cruel and barbaric assassination" of Moïse.

    "As for whether the suspects were involved in the assassination of the president of Haiti, that will need to be investigated by the Haitian police," Foreign Affairs spokesperson Joanne Ou told The Associated Press in Taipei.

    Haiti's interim government asks U.S. for security assistance - CBS News

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    General Jorge Luis Vargas Valencia said four companies had been involved in the "recruitment, the gathering of these people" implicated in the assassination, although he did not identify the companies because their names were still being verified.
    Ingen
    Umbrella Corporation
    Cyberdyne Systems
    Weyland-Yutani

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    Certainly curious...

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheRealKW View Post
    Certainly curious...
    BTW Skynet was developed by Cyberdyne Systems....


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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    BTW Skynet was developed by Cyberdyne Systems....


    I was thinking it might have been. Couldn't remember me movie references... damn good trilogy. 'bout time I watched it again.

    I'll be back.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheRealKW View Post
    I was thinking it might have been. Couldn't remember me movie references... damn good trilogy. 'bout time I watched it again.

    I'll be back.

    Hexalogy.

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    Jeepers, I missed a few…

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    The highest official of the United States Central Intelligence Agency (CIA), William Burns, arrived in Colombia to participate in a “delicate” mission in terms of security, as part of the “cooperation” between the two countries.

    The Colombian ambassador in Washington, Francisco Santos, reported on the arrival of the CIA director, however Santos did not want to provide additional details about Burns’ visit to Bogotá.

    Who was the nationality of the attackers of the Haitian president again ??

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    Quote Originally Posted by Backspin View Post
    Who was the nationality of the attackers of the Haitian president again ??
    That might be what William is there to find out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Backspin View Post
    The highest official of the United States Central Intelligence Agency (CIA), William Burns, arrived in Colombia to participate in a “delicate” mission in terms of security, as part of the “cooperation” between the two countries.
    You got a link to your "source", bud? Looks like more backspit BS.


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    "as the hunt goes on for the masterminds of the killing " Part quote post #30. Bill and Hilary are to far removed to be fingered. And the trail back will have some more dead bodies before the investigation gets anywhere near the top.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grumpy John View Post
    Bill and Hilary are to far removed to be fingered.
    Oh do fuck off you idiotic old fool.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bsnub View Post
    Oh do fuck off you idiotic old fool.
    Did you shit the bed?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joe 90 View Post
    Did you shit the bed?
    2 am and you are blind drunk.

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    Haitian Authorities Arrest Florida-Based Doctor They Depict as Central in Moïse Murder

    The national police chief indicated that he believes the doctor, Christian Emmanuel Sanon, was plotting to become president.


    Haitian Authorities Arrest Florida-Based Doctor They Depict as Central in Moise Murder - The New York Times

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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    Haitian Authorities Arrest Florida-Based Doctor They Depict as Central in Moïse Murder


    The national police chief indicated that he believes the doctor, Christian Emmanuel Sanon, was plotting to become president.


    Haitian Authorities Arrest Florida-Based Doctor They Depict as Central in Moise Murder - The New York Times

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    Haiti’s police claim a Florida-based doctor recruited mercenaries.

    A Haitian-born doctor based in Florida has been arrested as a key suspect in the assassination of President Jovenel Moïse of Haiti, and the national police chief suggested at a news conference that he believed the suspect was plotting to become president.

    To date, some two dozen people have been arrested in the killing, but on Sunday, Haitian officials described the doctor, Christian Emmanuel Sanon, 63, as a central figure in the case.

    Even as the Haitian authorities offered their most detailed account so far of the plot behind the brazen assassination of the president in the bedroom of his private home last week, there was widespread skepticism among the public of the official version of events.

    An increasingly fraught struggle for control of the country is only adding to the general sense of unease and foreboding as an already grim situation in Haiti threatens to descend further out of control.

    A majority of sitting members of Haitian Parliament, which is itself in a state of dysfunction, are calling for a new government to replace the interim prime minister, Claude Joseph.
    Mr. Joseph has issued a series of desperate pleas for foreign intervention to stabilize the nation, including calling on the United States to send troops.

    American officials signaled that they remained reluctant to provide military forces to Haiti to help secure order, but have sent a team of investigators to help look into last week’s assassination, which has left the country teetering.

    Haiti’s national police chief, Léon Charles, said that Dr. Sanon played a vital role in the plot, but offered no explanation for how the doctor could possibly have taken control of the government.
    Still, the arrest of Dr. Sanon added yet another element of intrigue in a rapidly moving investigation that stretched from Colombia to Miami.

    “He arrived by private plane in June with political objectives and contacted a private security firm to recruit the people who committed this act,” he said. The firm, he said, was a Venezuelan security company based in the United States called CTU.

    During a raid at his home, the authorities said, the police found a D.E.A. cap — the team of hit men who assaulted Mr. Moïse’s home appear to have falsely identified themselves as Drug Enforcement Administration agents — six holsters, about 20 boxes of bullets, 24 unused shooting targets, and four license plates from the Dominican Republic.

    “The initial mission that was given to these assailants was to protect the individual named Emmanuel Sanon, but afterwards the mission changed,” Mr. Charles said, implying that Mr. Sanon had meant to install himself as president.

    A YouTube video recorded in 2011 titled “Dr. Christian Sanon — Leadership for Haiti” appears to present Mr. Sanon as a potential leader of the country. In it, the speaker denounces the leaders of Haiti as corrupt plunderers of its resources.

    “With me in power, you are going to have to tell me: ‘What are you doing with my uranium?’” the speaker says. “‘What are you going to do with the oil that we have in the country? What are you going to do with the gold?’”

    CTU is run by a man named Antonio Intriago. He did not respond to messages requesting comment and CTU’s office was shut when a reporter stopped by on Saturday.

    Two Americans arrested last week have said that they were not in the room when the president was killed and that they had worked only as translators for the hit squad, according to a Haitian judge who interviewed them. They met with other participants at an upscale hotel in the Pétionville suburb of Port-au-Prince, the Haitian capital, to plan the attack.

    The goal was not to kill the president, the two Americans told the judge, but to bring him to the national palace.

    Florida-Based Doctor Arrested in Haiti President'''s Assassination - The New York Times

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    Thanks Subby.

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