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    Quote Originally Posted by Buckaroo Banzai View Post
    Zero Hedge ?
    You are really digging deep to find negative Biden content.
    The purpose is to try and deflect from Putin being called a murderer on international television.

    Fucking great stuff from that reporter.

    Can you imagine how many cups of glowing tea he'd make if a crowd tried to invade the Kremlin?

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    Biden vs Putin. Round One Done, two in progress-06-16-21-763x600-jpg

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    I feel sorry for such people like ^ (please no names here), what else they can enlighten us with.
    After hearing what real leaders have to say. When such leader does not need to deliver a jab or two even when getting such pass from unbiased presstitutes like they show up themselves (CNN, ABC, BBC, etc). (would they be allowed to ask the other guy?)

    And what's more painful for harry and his fan club, to read the comments underneath (and they are of no Russians...)


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    Quote Originally Posted by Klondyke View Post
    And what's more painful for harry and his fan club
    I can tell you with utmost certainty what the most painful thing is for everyone: trying to understand the utter drivel you post.

    I for one have given up.

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    Well it's good they met, but all a bit of a yawn really.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cyrille View Post
    I can tell you with utmost certainty that the most painful thing is for everyone
    FTFY
    I believe you...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Buckaroo Banzai View Post
    Zero Hedge ?
    where the alpha cucks hang out and simper

    Quote Originally Posted by panama hat View Post
    blubbering
    blathering would be better - he just dribbled

    the soviet press will be zero hedging his gonad follicles and telling the masses that poofta P gave biden the smackdown

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    Quote Originally Posted by cyrille View Post
    I can tell you with utmost certainty what the most painful thing is for everyone: trying to understand the utter drivel you post.

    I for one have given up.
    Fair play for trying so long. I put the tosser on ignore a long time ago.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sabang View Post
    Well it's good they met, but all a bit of a yawn really.
    I don't know, it was funny watching him squirm when asked about his murderous tendencies.

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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    I don't know, it was funny watching him squirm when asked about his murderous tendencies.
    This time our harry disappointed, he lost it, as (please no names here)... About something like that it was in another thread this morning...(but it has nothing to do with Geneva)

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    Quote Originally Posted by baldrick View Post
    https://twitter.com/ABC/status/1405200055154397187
    I am presuming you are referring to the first video at your link.

    A lady in red is given a microphone. She is representing CNN, an organisation that a few days ago had a senior reporter question the LORD for 2/3 hours. Which she should have been well aware of.


    "Thanks .... for taking my question." I 'm presuming all reporters understand what the word, "one" means. The lady in red states it herself.

    I am also assuming they are given a copy of the rules and told to follow them.

    The media are made aware of the "1 question" rule.

    She proceeds to set the stage:

    "Biden has said he would respond to cyberattacks from Russia if they do not stop."

    Then proceeds to ask three questions:

    1."I'm curious, what did he tell you?"

    2. "Did he make any threats?"

    3. "What ere you afraid of?"


    None of which, I suggest, were unexpected. If you had watched the previous, in depth, longer interview.

    The LORD replied: to her three question, fully.

    A reply to the lady in red from your link.

    Robin Vander Velde

    @RGVanderVelde2

    Replying to @ABC
    and @rachelvscott

    "Why canít all the reporters decide and if you questions keep it simple get the answers and not add 34 questions onto each one itís disturbing the representation it shows for America"

    another

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    Replying to @ABC
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    "I sense much fear in you."
    A tray full of GOLD is not worth a moment in time.

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    What's he waffling about now?

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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    murderous
    Quote Originally Posted by Klondyke View Post
    (please no names here)


    Pictures can, neni dobcr pane česki

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    U.S. – Russia Presidential Joint Statement on Strategic Stability

    June 16, 2021

    "We, President of the United States of America Joseph R. Biden and President of the Russian Federation Vladimir Putin, note the United States and Russia have demonstrated that, even in periods of tension, they are able to make progress on our shared goals of ensuring predictability in the strategic sphere, reducing the risk of armed conflicts and the threat of nuclear war.

    The recent extension of the New START Treaty exemplifies our commitment to nuclear arms control. Today, we reaffirm the principle that a nuclear war cannot be won and must never be fought.

    Consistent with these goals, the United States and Russia will embark together on an integrated bilateral Strategic Stability Dialogue in the near future that will be deliberate and robust. Through this Dialogue, we seek to lay the groundwork for future arms control and risk reduction measures.

    U.S. – Russia Presidential Joint Statement on Strategic Stability • President of Russia

    That appears to be "round 3".

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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    What's he waffling about now?
    he is simping

    the mean lady asked a bad question

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    News conference following Russia-US talks


    June 16, 2021 19:40 Geneva


    "President of Russia Vladimir Putin:

    Friends, ladies and gentlemen,
    Good afternoon.

    I am at your service. I think there is no need for long opening remarks since everyone is familiar with the topics of discussion in general: strategic stability, cyber security, regional conflicts, and trade relations. We also covered cooperation in the Arctic. This is pretty much what we discussed.

    With that, I will take your questions.

    Question:

    Good evening,

    Perhaps, you can name the topics that were discussed especially closely? In particular, Ukraine is of great interest. In what context was it touched upon, was the situation in Donbass and the possibility of Ukraine joining NATO discussed?

    One more thing: before the talks, there were great expectations about the ambassadors of the two countries returning to their stations in the respective capitals. In particular, your assistant, Yury Ushakov, said that this was possible.

    Have these decisions been made?

    How did the talks go in general?

    Thank you.

    Vladimir Putin:

    With regard to the ambassadors returning to their stations – the US ambassador to Moscow, and the Russian ambassador to Washington, we agreed on this matter, and they will be returning to their permanent duty stations. When exactly – tomorrow or the day after tomorrow – is a purely technical issue.

    We also agreed that the Foreign Ministry of the Russian Federation and the US State Department would begin consultations on the entire range of cooperation on the diplomatic track. There are things to discuss, and an enormous backlog [of unresolved issues] has piled up. I think both sides, including the American side, are committed to looking for solutions.

    With regard to Ukraine, indeed, this issue was touched upon. I cannot say that it was done in great detail, but as far as I understood President Biden, he agreed that the Minsk agreements should be the basis for a settlement in southeastern Ukraine.

    As for Ukraine’s potential accession to NATO, this issue was touched upon in passing. I suppose there is nothing to discuss in this respect.

    This is how it was in general terms.

    Question:

    Mr President, you said strategic stability was one of the topics. Could you tell us in more detail what decisions were made on this issue? Will Russia and the United States resume or start talks on strategic stability and disarmament, and, in particular, on the New START Treaty?

    Do they plan to start talks on extending New START, perhaps revising its parameters or signing a new treaty altogether?


    Thank you.


    Vladimir Putin
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    The United States and the Russian Federation bear special responsibility for global strategic stability, at least because we are the two biggest nuclear powers – in terms of the amount of ammunition and warheads, the number of delivery vehicles, the level of sophistication and quality of nuclear arms. We are aware of this responsibility.


    I think it is obvious to everyone that President Biden made a responsible and, we believe, timely decision to extend New START for five years, that is, until 2024.


    Of course, it would be natural to ask what next. We agreed to start interdepartmental consultations under the aegis of the US Department of State and the Foreign Ministry of Russia. Colleagues will determine at the working level the line-up of these delegations, the venues and frequency of meetings.


    Question
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    Hi, Matthew Chance from CNN. Thank you very much for giving me this question.


    First of all, could you characterise the dynamic between yourself and President Biden? Was it hostile or was it friendly?


    And secondly, throughout these conversations did you commit to ceasing carrying out cyberattacks on the United States?

    Did you commit to stopping threatening Ukraine’s security?

    And did you commit to stop cracking down on the opposition in Russia?


    Vladimir Putin:


    I will begin with a general assessment. I believe there was no hostility at all. Quite the contrary. Our meeting was, of course, a principled one, and our positions diverge on many issues, but I still think that both of us showed a willingness to understand each other and look for ways of bringing our positions closer together. The conversation was quite constructive.

    As for cyber security, we have agreed to start consultations on this issue. I consider this very important.

    Now about the commitments each side must make. I would like to tell you about things that are generally known, but not to the public at large. American sources – I am simply afraid to mix up the names of organisations (Mr Peskov will give them to you later) – have said that most cyberattacks in the world come from US cyberspace. Canada is second. It is followed by two Latin American countries and then the United Kingdom. As you can see, Russia is not on the list of these countries from whose cyberspace the most cyberattacks originate. This is the first point.

    Now the second point. In 2020 we received 10 inquiries from the United States about cyberattacks on US facilities – as our colleagues say – from Russian cyberspace. Two more requests were made this year. Our colleagues received exhaustive responses to all of them, both in 2020 and this year.


    In turn, Russia sent 45 inquiries to the relevant US agency last year and 35 inquiries in the first half of this year. We have not yet received a single response. This shows that we have a lot to work on.


    The question of who, on what scale and in what area must make commitments should be resolved during negotiations. We have agreed to start such consultations. We believe that cyber security is extremely important in the world in general, for the United States in particular, and to the same extent for Russia.


    For example, we are aware of the cyberattacks on the pipeline company in the United States. We are also aware of the fact that the company had to pay 5 million to the cybercriminals. According to my information, a portion of the money has been returned from the e-wallets. What do Russia’s public authorities have to do with this?


    We face the same threats. For example, there was an attack on the public healthcare system of a large region in the Russian Federation. Of course, we see where the attacks are coming from, and we see that these activities are coordinated from US cyberspace. I do not think that the United States, official US authorities, are interested in this kind of manipulation. What we need to do is discard all the conspiracy theories, sit down at the expert level and start working in the interests of the United States and the Russian Federation. In principle, we have agreed to this, and Russia is willing to do so.

    Give them a microphone – part of the question remained unanswered.

    Remark: That’s correct and thank you very much for coming back to me, sir.

    So, there were two other parts to the question. The first one is: did you commit in these meetings to stop threatening Ukraine? Remember the reason this summit was called in the first place, or the timing of it, was when Russia was building up lots of forces close to border.

    And the second part of the question, third part of the question was: did you commit to stopping your crackdown against the opposition groups inside Russia led by Alexei Navalny?


    Vladimir Putin
    :

    I did not hear that part of the question – either it was not translated, or you just decided to ask a second question.


    With regard to our obligations regarding Ukraine, we have only one obligation which is to facilitate the implementation of the Minsk Agreements. If the Ukrainian side is willing to do this, we will take this path, no questions asked.


    By the way, I would like to note the following. Back in November 2020, the Ukrainian delegation presented its views about how it was planning to implement the Minsk Agreements. Please take a look at the Minsk Agreements – they are not a confidential document. They say that, first, it is necessary to submit proposals on the political integration of Donbass into the Ukrainian legal system and the Constitution. To do so, it is necessary to amend the Constitution – this is spelled out in the agreements. This is the first point. And second, the border between the Russian Federation and Ukraine along the Donbass line will begin to be occupied by the border troops of Ukraine on the day following election day – Article 9.


    What has Ukraine come up with? The first step it proposed was to move Ukraine’s armed forces back to their permanent stations. What does this mean? This means Ukrainian troops would enter Donbass. This is the first point. Second, they proposed closing the border between Russia and Ukraine in this area. Third, they proposed holding elections three months after these two steps.

    You do not need a legal background or any special training to understand that this has nothing to do with the Minsk Agreements. This completely contradicts the Minsk Agreements. Therefore, what kind of additional obligations can Russia assume? I think the answer is clear.

    With regard to military exercises, we conduct them on our territory, just like the United States conducts many of its exercises on its territory. But we are not bringing our equipment and personnel closer to the state borders of the United States of America when we conduct our exercises. Unfortunately, this is what our US partners are doing now. So, the Russian side, not the American side, should be concerned about this, and this also needs to be discussed, and our respective positions should be clarified.

    With regard to our non-systemic opposition and the citizen you mentioned, first, this person knew that he was breaking applicable Russian law. He needed to check in with the authorities as someone who was twice sentenced to a suspended prison time. Fully cognisant of what he was doing, I want to emphasise this, and disregarding this legal requirement, this gentleman went abroad for medical treatment, and the authorities did not ask him to check in while he was in treatment. As soon as he left the hospital and posted his videos online, the requirements were reinstated. He did not appear; he disregarded the law – and was put on the wanted list. He knew that going back to Russia. I believe he deliberately decided to get arrested. He did what he wanted to do. So, what is there to be discussed?"

    With regard to the people like him and the systemic opposition in general, unfortunately, the format of a news conference precludes a detailed discussion, but I would like to say the following. Look, I think I will not say anything complicated, it will be clear for everyone. If you find it possible to objectively convey this message to your viewers and listeners, I would be very grateful to you.

    So, the United States declared Russia an enemy and an adversary. Congress did this in 2017. US legislation was amended to include provisions that the United States must maintain democratic governance rules and order in our country and support political organisations. This is in your law, US law.

    Now let's ask ourselves a question: if Russia is an enemy, what kind of organisations will the United States support in Russia? I think not the ones that make the Russian Federation stronger, but the ones that hold it back, since this is the goal of the United States, something that has been announced publicly. So, these are the organisations and the people who are instrumental in the implementation of the United States' policy on Russia.


    How should we feel about this? I think it is clear: we must be wary. But we will act exclusively within the framework of Russian law.


    Question:
    Pavel Zarubin, VGTRK.

    I wanted to continue with this subject. We still see that the Americans keep talking about the so-called political prisoners in Russia. Did you discuss the matter of Navalny at all during your talks with President Biden? In what manner did you discuss it, if at all?

    Here is one more important topic. We are all aware, of course, that, let’s say, a new stage in Russia-US relations after President Biden took office began with a very harsh statement aimed at you. Have you settled this matter in any way?

    Thank you very much.

    Vladimir Putin:

    President Biden touched upon the matter of human rights and those who, as they believe, represent these issues in the Russian Federation. Yes, we talked about that at his initiative.

    This is the first thing.


    Second, regarding harsh statements. What can I say? All of us are aware of these statements. President Biden called me after that and we discussed the matter. I accepted his explanation. He also suggested that we meet – it was his initiative. We have met, and, as I have already mentioned, we had a very constructive conversation. I saw once again that President Biden is an experienced person, which is absolutely obvious. Our face-to-face discussion lasted almost two hours. It is not with all leaders that such a detailed conversation can be held face to face.

    As for all kinds of accusations, you may recall that his predecessor was asked the same question, and he evaded answering it. The incumbent US President decided to reply in this manner, and his reply was different from Mr Trump’s answer.

    Generally speaking, responsibility for everything that takes place in our countries ultimately rests with the political leadership and top officials, that is, regarding who is guilty of what and who is the killer. You see, people, including the leaders of various organisations, are killed in American cities every day.

    You can barely say a word there before you are shot in the face or in the back, regardless of who is nearby, children or other adults. I recall a situation when a woman left her car and started running, and she was shot in the back. All right, these are criminal matters.

    Take a look at Afghanistan: as many as 120 people were killed there in one blow; entire wedding parties were wiped out. Yes, this could have been a mistake; such things happen.

    But using drones to shoot people who are obviously civilians in Iraq – what was that?

    Who is responsible?

    Who is the killer?

    Or take human rights. Listen, Guantanamo is still open. This is contrary to all imaginable rules, to international law or American laws, but it is still functioning. The CIA prisons that were opened in many countries, including in Europe, where they subjected people to torture, – what is this?

    Is this respect for human rights? I don’t think so, do you?

    Hardly anyone in this room will agree that this is how human rights must be protected. But this is the existing political practice. Taking into account this practice and knowing that this was done and can still be done shapes our attitude to what I have mentioned here, and to the people who receive foreign funding to protect the interests of those who pay them.

    Question:

    Murad Gazdiev, RT.


    I have a question about the Arctic. You mentioned that you discussed it.


    The United States and its allies have been accusing Russia of militarising the Arctic for a long time. Just recently, in May, we heard US Secretary of State Antony Blinken voice his concern over the actions of Russia’s military. What exactly did you discuss?


    Vladimir Putin:


    Yes, we discussed this issue in a broad format and in some detail. This is a highly important and interesting issue as the development of the entire Arctic region and the Northern Sea Route in particular has tremendous economic significance for many countries in the region and beyond it.

    The US concerns regarding militarisation are absolutely groundless.

    We are not doing anything new there compared to the Soviet era. We are restoring the local infrastructure that was lost and demolished completely some time ago. Yes, we are doing this using up-to-date technology. We are restoring the military and border control infrastructure, and we are creating nature conservation infrastructure, which has never been done in the past. We are creating a relevant base for the Emergencies Ministry, which will give us the opportunity to conduct high-seas rescue missions in case of emergency and to protect the environment.


    I told our colleagues that I see no concerns here. On the contrary, I am deeply convinced that we can and should work together in this field. Just like the United States, Russia is one of the eight Arctic Council members. This year, Russia chairs the Arctic Council. Moreover, Alaska and Chukotka are separated by a well-known strait, with the United States on one side and Russia on the other. All this taken together should motivate us to pool our efforts.

    The use of the Northern Sea Route is regulated by international law. In fact, there are two main laws: the 1982 UN Convention on the Law of the Sea and the Polar Code, which consists of several documents and was ratified in 2017. I drew our partners’ attention to the fact that Russia intends to fully honour these international legal norms. We have never violated anything.

    To be continued."


    News conference following Russia-US talks • President of Russia

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    Quote Originally Posted by sabang View Post
    Well it's good they met, but all a bit of a yawn really.
    They both deserve one another.
    Kindred spirits.

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    Caitlin Collins, the CNN lassie, probably would not of her own volition acted in such a stupid fashion. Many moon ago when I used to watch the shit CNN always spouting shit I realized the Wolf "happening now!!!!!! Blitzer" is a left wing criminal and also the news director of that august channel. I used to watch this idiot directing news reporters into untenable situations, he's done it again with poor Caitlin. The station has had a well deserved slap down and I'll bet they won't be sucking Democratic cock for too much longer.

    I feel the summit was significant.

    Now if we could only get Ukraine to forego their territorial claims to Crimea we would be half way there.

    The west should be more concerned with China rather than Russia.

    In the most humblest opinion I can muster up. Cheers.


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    "Strange days have found us
    Strange days have tracked us down
    They're going to destroy
    Our casual joys
    We shall go on playing or find a new town

    Yeah!

    Strange eyes fill strange rooms
    Voices will signal their tired end
    The hostess is grinning
    Her guests sleep from sinning
    Hear me talk of sin
    And you know this is it

    Yeah!

    Strange days have found us
    And through their strange hours
    We linger alone
    Bodies confused
    Memories misused
    As we run from the day
    To a strange night of stone"

    The Doors: 'Strange Days' (1967)


    Indeed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by russellsimpson View Post
    The station has had a well deserved slap down and I'll bet they won't be sucking Democratic cock for too much longer.
    Is that what Fox news is spewing today, lemming?

    Quote Originally Posted by russellsimpson View Post
    Now if we could only get Ukraine to forego their territorial claims to Crimea we would be half way there.
    Are they also required to relinquish their claims on Donbas that is currently occupied by Russian spetsnaz? Where does it end?

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    Quote Originally Posted by bsnub View Post
    Is that what Fox news is spewing today, lemming?
    Rarely ever watch it Snubbles. I didn't know I even received the channel until I recently found a channel out of your home town.



    Quote Originally Posted by bsnub View Post
    Are they also required to relinquish their claims on Donbas that is currently occupied by Russian spetsnaz? Where does it end?
    I'll have to brush up on what's going on in the Donbas before commenting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by russellsimpson View Post
    I'll have to brush up on what's going on in the Donbas before commenting.
    Biden vs Putin. Round One Done, two in progress-tenor-gif

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    Quote Originally Posted by HuangLao View Post
    They both deserve one another.
    Kindred spirits.
    If you say so.

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    Quote Originally Posted by russellsimpson View Post
    Rarely ever watch it Snubbles. I didn't know I even received the channel until I recently found a channel out of your home town.
    You don't need to watch Fox News, it comes naturally for you.

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    Biden speaks at an alleged "Press Conference".

    12 minute speech. 18 minutes of prearranged questions, replied after reading from his screen. No apparent questions from the non ameristani press.

    Last edited by OhOh; 17-06-2021 at 10:02 PM.

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