Thread: What"s Next in the Meng Wanzhou Extradition Trial?

Originally Posted by sabang

So you're saying it wasn't a prisoner swap?

For that to be true, Meng would have actually had to have spent time in prison.

My point, if any, is that is was a farce from the beginning- and we can thank The donald for that. I don't think Trudeau did his country any favours by going the US' dirty work either. And as for the victims- well all free now and heading home. Talking of hostages, what about Julian Assange?

Originally Posted by sabang

Talking of hostages, what about Julian Assange?

...out of luck...not Chinese...

Originally Posted by sabang

I don't think Trudeau did his country any favours by going the US' dirty work either.

Are you even aware of how extradition treaties and the rule of law work?

About as aware as Julian. It was hostage diplomacy, plain and simple. Forced on Canada by a browbeating US President, accepted by a simpering Trudeau. Over a trumped up commercial dispute, and predictably it backfired. Nothing but a farce in my books.

Originally Posted by sabang

Julian Assange

. . . and there goes the obfuscation because you're proven wrong again.

Why, sabang . . . why become full-Klondyke?

Wrong about what? It was a farce, and that remains my opinion.

Originally Posted by sabang

About as aware as Julian. It was hostage diplomacy, plain and simple. Forced on Canada by a browbeating US President, accepted by a simpering Trudeau. Over a trumped up commercial dispute, and predictably it backfired. Nothing but a farce in my books.

Has Australia kidnapped any random Brits yet to hold as bargaining chips in case Assange is extradited to the US?

Your whataboutism is incredibly weak.

Hell no- they totally sold Assange down stream. You do realise oz even makes Canada look kinda independent, right?

Originally Posted by sabang

Hell no- they totally sold Assange down stream.

Had they not, would you have supported them kidnapping Brits then?

So she admitted she is filthy cheating chinky scum and then they swapped her for some Canadians that the chinkies arrested for fuck all.

A satisfactory conclusion by Trudeau and Biden I suppose.

The chinkies will probably portray it as her having been released in a daring raid by chinky special forces or some such shit.

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

So she admitted she is filthy cheating chinky scum and then they swapped her for some Canadians that the chinkies arrested for fuck all.

She pleaded not guilty and the charges have been deferred until Dec. 2022.

Meng appeared virtually in a court in Brooklyn, New York, and pleaded not guilty to charges of conspiracy to commit bank fraud, bank fraud, conspiracy to commit wire fraud, and wire fraud.

However, as part of the deal, Meng confirmed that the statement of facts in the deferred prosecution agreement are true. Those facts include that she misrepresented Huawei's relationship with Skycom to HSBC, according to court documents. If she says or implies otherwise, it could violate the terms of the deal and result in her prosecution.

"In entering into the deferred prosecution agreement, Meng has taken responsibility for her principal role in perpetrating a scheme to defraud a global financial institution," Acting US Attorney Boeckmann said in a statement Friday.

That's from CNN's app so can't post a link.

Originally Posted by sabang

Nothing but a farce in my books.

...your books need a new editor...

Originally Posted by sabang

Over a trumped up commercial dispute

Originally Posted by sabang

Wrong about what? It was a farce, and that remains my opinion.

Originally Posted by pickel

That's from CNN's app so can't post a link.

Not that it matters:

However, as part of the deal, Meng confirmed that the statement of facts in the deferred prosecution agreement are true.

Meng was greeted by a small group of reporters in her home province, our noble prime minister was of course on hand to plant a kiss on the cheeks of our returning Canadian heroes in the wee hours of the morning in Calgary.

Speculation is that this whole quick saga surrounding the Meng agreement and release of Canadians was put off until the Canadian election was done and dusted. There is also strong speculation that this whole deal was prompted by the fact that Xi has owed a personal debt to Ren Zhenfei, Mengs father and the founder of Huawei. The incident entirely proves that the Chinese will unabashedly use hostage diplomacy to further their cause. Some speculate that the Chinese have learned their lesson and won't want to further tarnish their image going forward. I doubt that.

To me this incident along with other Chinese aggressive behaviour including in the SCS further proves that we are indeed into another cold war, this time with China. We must call out Chinese behaviour in Hong Kong and Xinjiang. Imo China should not be given an inch until they learn to abide by recognized civilized norms of behaviour. Today Canada celebrates. Tomorrow we start to formulate a new China policy. Lesson learned.

Originally Posted by russellsimpson

Tomorrow we start to formulate a new China policy.

Trudeau should start by banning Huawei from building any 5g network in Canada.

Originally Posted by pickel

Trudeau should start by banning Huawei from building any 5g network in Canada.

I believe there is a strong component of the executive of the Liberal party of Canada and members of the Chinese diaspora who favour a 'go easy' policy in terms of China. I have heard rumours of this for a number of years. I honestly cannot think of any other reason why he's such a gutless wimp in terms of his approach to China. There are many constituencies in Canada, particularly in the GTA and Metro Vancouver where the Chinese vote decides election results.

I should add that I believe Canada owes Joe Biden a big thank you by insisting the Chinese release the two Canadians concurrent with the release of Meng. The former president did nobody any favours in this entire sordid affair. Screw you Donald.

Originally Posted by russellsimpson

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Was it too much effort to edit this shite out of your post?

^Sory about that Willy. My bad. Shoot me.

it was a prisoner swap - meng was a prisoner in canada , confined under their standards

the big xi has now announced to the world that huewei is special to the CCXi which will mean any thinking government will not allow their equipment to be used for any communications backbone

there are still 2 australians being held hostage in chin land because australia had the gall to ask for an inquiry as to the origins of the covid 19 virus - australia might do well to arrest and charge a princeling in the country for foreign influence

Originally Posted by baldrick

meng was a prisoner in canada , confined under their standards

Most Canadians wearing an ankle bracelet aren't doing it in huge mansions, if they can even afford bail. I would think a fair amount of Canadians would gladly swap with her, under those conditions, even if they weren't charged with a crime.