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    Quote Originally Posted by elche View Post
    People are jumping to conclusions that the RC church and administrators were killing children on site.
    are they? Who?

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheRealKW View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by elche View Post
    People are jumping to conclusions that the RC church and administrators were killing children on site.
    This was nothing more than an expression to make a point that there is no evidence whatsoever to suggest that the children died at the hands of the church administrators and teachers. Some have taken my words literally for reasons unknown. The Indian band in Kamloops, like Indian bands elsewhere in Canada, is laying blame on the church and the government of the day for the loss of life. They, not me, are jumping to conclusions. I merely pointed that out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by russellsimpson View Post
    I have no right to any opinion on the whole circumstance but I am betting that many native leaders will not want the ground above these sites to be disturbed in the least. There are no words for the white men to speak at this point, none at all.
    On the contrary they will probably want them to have something along the lines of a religious burial rather than being lobbed in a fucking hole to cover up yet more kiddie fiddler crimes against humanity.

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    Quote Originally Posted by elche View Post
    This was nothing more than an expression to make a point that there is no evidence whatsoever to suggest that the children died at the hands of the church administrators and teachers. Some have taken my words literally for reasons unknown. The Indian band in Kamloops, like Indian bands elsewhere in Canada, is laying blame on the church and the government of the day for the loss of life. They, not me, are jumping to conclusions. I merely pointed that out.
    you’re making baseless claims to further your hysterical point. Repeating them does not make them any more substantial. The kids could have died through neglect, abuse or disease. The fact that their deaths were not reported, investigated and then thrown into an unmarked grave is the problem.

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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    On the contrary they will probably want them to have something along the lines of a religious burial rather than being lobbed in a fucking hole to cover up yet more kiddie fiddler crimes against humanity.
    That's a ridiculous and irresponsible comment Mr. Barracuda.

    They were not lobbed into 'fucking holes' you fvcking drama queen.

    Grow up. It's folks like you that are at the vanguard of things generally going to hell.

    Put a sock in it.



    Quote Originally Posted by TheRealKW View Post
    The fact that their deaths were not reported, investigated and then thrown into an unmarked grave is the problem.
    Far more complicated than that Lance.

    Which probably explains why you can't get your tiny brain around it.
    A true diplomat is a person who can tell you to go to hell in such a manner that you will be asking for directions.

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    I mean like,


    What the hell?
    You folks are trying to turn a tragic story into a pissing contest?


    Gentlemen acquire yourselves a life.

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    Explain it then.

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    They were lobbed into a hole, quite literally. That’s what an unmarked grave fucking is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheRealKW View Post
    Explain it then.
    I'll try, but with you it's going to require a mammoth effort.

    I think we'll find that there are 215 individual graves not one large hole that all the bodies were 'lobbed' into. Remember, these kids died over a period of probably seventy years. Smallpox would have passed through the province at least twice in that period. There would have been regulations around recording deaths but clearly in this circumstance these regulation were not followed. Tremendous disrespect was accorded these children but let us not get too carried away here.

    A terrible things has happened. A very deep sadness has descended on the land.

    I have now heard talk that some fetuses were incinerated in the schools ovens, talk of this sort I consider irresponsible and it's pretty much the kind of talk you and Harry are indulging in.

    Somebody has to put a stop to the shit and I somehow got volunteered.

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    Quote Originally Posted by russellsimpson View Post
    I'll try, but with you it's going to require a mammoth effort.

    I think we'll find that there are 215 individual graves not one large hole that all the bodies were 'lobbed' into. Remember, these kids died over a period of probably seventy years. Smallpox would have passed through the province at least twice in that period. There would have been regulations around recording deaths but clearly in this circumstance these regulation were not followed. Tremendous disrespect was accorded these children but let us not get too carried away here.

    A terrible things has happened. A very deep sadness has descended on the land.

    I have now heard talk that some fetuses were incinerated in the schools ovens, talk of this sort I consider irresponsible and it's pretty much the kind of talk you and Harry are indulging in.

    Somebody has to put a stop to the shit and I somehow got volunteered.

    Cretinous dick, stop making up shit.

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    Read a couple of good books (one I just pulled from the shelf – Education for Extinction: The Harvard Educational Review - HEPG ) related to (American) Indian children being sent to or forced to go to boarding schools.


    Quote Originally Posted by russellsimpson View Post
    Tremendous disrespect was accorded these children but let us not get too carried away here.
    There’s a little more to Russell’s explanation,…..but it’s close enough. But absolutely nothing about ovens.
    Keep your friends close and your enemies closer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheRealKW View Post
    Explain it then.
    We don't know the cause(s) and neither do you. Some of us are trying to get to the bottom of this, but others are jumping to conclusions, some of which are utterly asinine. We are suggesting the idea of looking at the history of viruses, such as influenza, and diseases, like TB and small pox, during the 20th century as a contributing factor. Is that not reasonable and thus something you would ignore?
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    Quote Originally Posted by elche View Post
    others are jumping to conclusions, some of which are utterly asinine
    All part of the TD experience. Well not just TD. Seems the norm these days for any given subject.

    "My mind is made up. Don’t confuse me with the facts."

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    Not another friggin' Genocide. Yawwn.

    They were lobbed into a hole, quite literally.
    Were they dead yet?

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    There're many questions and answers in the next while. If I took a guess there was a well known old graveyard there. Thats why they did radar scans in that location. The numbers surprised them and everybody. Many/some were probably legit. In 1948 if your kid dies in Kamloops you can't ship the body to the reserve in the Shuswhap. So some make sense.

    I believe there were fiddlers and worse, and many, many were hurt physically and emotionally but I don't think they were abusing them to death and lobbing them into graves as KW suggests.

    What I would really like to see come out of this revelation is the Catholic Church stepping up and footing the bill, with admission of guilt. So far the pope isn't saying anything.

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    Quote Originally Posted by russellsimpson View Post
    Somebody has to put a stop to the shit and I somehow got volunteered.
    Poacher turns gamekeeper.

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    Quote Originally Posted by russellsimpson View Post
    That's a ridiculous and irresponsible comment Mr. Barracuda.

    They were not lobbed into 'fucking holes' you fvcking drama queen.
    That's *exactly* what happened you fucking idiot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by elche View Post
    We don't know the cause(s) and neither do you. Some of us are trying to get to the bottom of this, but others are jumping to conclusions, some of which are utterly asinine. We are suggesting the idea of looking at the history of viruses, such as influenza, and diseases, like TB and small pox, during the 20th century as a contributing factor. Is that not reasonable and thus something you would ignore?
    I can only assume we have some bead rattlers in our ranks who don't like hearing the truth, otherwise they would know that there is a pattern to the kiddie fiddlers crimes against humanity (and that's what they are).

    2017:

    A mass grave containing the remains of babies and children has been discovered at a former Catholic care home in Ireland where it has been alleged up to 800 died, government-appointed investigators said on Friday.
    Excavations at the site of the former Bon Secours Mother and Baby Home in Tuam, County Galway, have uncovered an underground structure divided into 20 chambers containing “significant quantities of human remains”, the judge-led mother and baby homes commission said.

    The commission said analysis of selected remains revealed ages of the deceased ranged from 35 weeks to three years old. It found that the dead had been mostly buried in the 1950s, when the facility was one of more than a dozen in Ireland offering shelter to orphans, unmarried mothers and their children. The Tuam home closed in 1961.
    Mass grave of babies and children found at Tuam care home in Ireland | Ireland | The Guardian

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    Quote Originally Posted by cyrille View Post
    Poacher turns gamekeeper.
    More dullard turns wanker.

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    I have no intention of getting involved in a shit fight with you Mr. Barracuda. No time and zero inclination.

    Just a quick update on the situation here. The graves have now been declared a crime scene. The local chief of the Kamloops tribe has a press conference scheduled for today to say how they intend to proceed. Presumably the RCMP (our police) will behave sensitively although their track record might suggest otherwise. There aren't going to be any perpetrators left alive at this point. I hope if the tribe says they don't wish to open the graves that will be respected.


    Quote Originally Posted by marcusb View Post
    What I would really like to see come out of this revelation is the Catholic Church stepping up and footing the bill, with admission of guilt.
    I agree. Of course there is a snowballs chance in hell of that happening though we may get surprised.

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    Quote Originally Posted by russellsimpson View Post
    I have no intention of getting involved in a shit fight with you Mr. Barracuda. No time and zero inclination.

    Just a quick update on the situation here. The graves have now been declared a crime scene.
    Which is what several of us have been saying all along you dumb shit.

    FFS where does TD find these imbeciles? Are they all rejected from TV for being terminally stupid?

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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    Which is what several of us have been saying all along you dumb shit.
    Mutt packers speak with forked tongue and one voice.

    You and the boyz have been speaking nothing but vindictive shit, truth be told.

    You sound like a spoiled 14 year old which suggests that although your age has grown you are pretty much stalled at the teenager level of intellectual development. Grow up shit for brains. And spank you very much for your vital contributions to the thread arsehole.

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    Quote Originally Posted by russellsimpson View Post
    Grow up shit for brains.
    never have truer words been spoken!

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    Again I am faced with a most difficult decision.
    Shall I stay indoors staring at my screen and engaging in a name calling shit throwing contest with some of the Mutt Packers or shall I go out into another bright and beautiful day?

    I am leaning towards the second option.

    Cheerio lads.

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    Quote Originally Posted by russellsimpson View Post
    Mutt packers speak with forked tongue and one voice.

    You and the boyz have been speaking nothing but vindictive shit, truth be told.

    You sound like a spoiled 14 year old which suggests that although your age has grown you are pretty much stalled at the teenager level of intellectual development. Grow up shit for brains. And spank you very much for your vital contributions to the thread arsehole.
    Why would I want to "grow up shit for brains" when I've seen how yours work?

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