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    Quote Originally Posted by sabang View Post
    'Foreign power'
    Hardly . . . on what do you base your assertion?

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    Quote Originally Posted by sabang View Post
    Bela and Russia are kinda linked at the hip
    This status, a legally agreed relationship:

    Union State

    World leaders condemn Belarus after Ryanair flight is forced to land and journalist i-rbflag-jpg


    "The Union State,[a] also referred to as the Union State of Russia and Belarus,[b] is an organization consisting of Russia and Belarus that was formed on 8 December 1999.[4][5]"

    /en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Union_State

    Putin believes integration processes of intelligence in Union State to be effective


    23 Apr, 01:12

    "The Russian leader warmly welcomed his counterpart in the Kremlin, noting that there are fundamental things in the relations between Russia and Belarus that influence both countries

    The work on integration processes in the Union State of Russia and Belarus is going ahead effectively in various areas, including between intelligence services, Russian President Vladimir Putin said Thursday when opening talks with Belarusian leader Alexander Lukashenko.

    "The work is going ahead well in all spheres, our teams are working rather effectively, I mean the government team and the administration team and as we see now the intelligence services," Putin said. The Russian president added, "cooperation is deepening in the military-technical interaction, and security in the broadest meaning of this word."


    The Russian leader warmly welcomed his counterpart in the Kremlin, noting that there are fundamental things in the relations between Russia and Belarus that influence both countries."

    https://tass.com/politics/1281857
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    Totally irrelevant to annexation, but keep trawling the internet

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    Beside comparing with similar "incomparable" actions as e.g. president's aircraft grounding, or pulling somebody from foreign embassy compound, (any diplomat expulsion?) or the extraordinary renditions as investigated by Swiss prosecutor Dick Marty for EU Council of EU (the same prosecutor who investigated the crimes in Kosovo) Extraordinary rendition - Wikipedia
    there is a case when Russian hacker Yevgeniy Nikulin was transferred to US from Czech Republic 2 years ago by Paul Ryan - shortly before his retirement.

    Paul Ryan flew in Prague in private jet with his family on a private visit. And by midnight he left with the young hacker in shackles without an extradition order by judge that was pending, required by USA and Russians over long time, just on an order of the Justice Minister, to an outrage of Czech govt.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OhOh View Post

    The Russian leader warmly welcomed his counterpart in the Kremlin, noting that there are fundamental things in the relations between Russia and Belarus that influence both countries."
    What, that they are both run by murderous dictators?

    He's right.

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    EU foreign ministers on Monday approved a fresh set of sanctions against Belarusian officials. They are also preparing more measures aimed at hurting the country’s economy.

    https://www.ntd.com/eu-hits-belarus-with-more-sanctions_630969.html

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    Good . . . the more pressure, the better

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    Some EU countries make no secret of their plans of color revolution scenarios in Belarus

    According to Russian Foreign Ministry Spokeswoman Maria Zakharova, Russia considers the package of sanctions as an open attempt at interfering into Belarus’ domestic affairs

    MOSCOW, June 25. /TASS/. Moscow considers a new package of EU sanctions against Belarus as an open interference into its domestic affairs. Some of the EU countries make no secret of the efforts to prepare the ground for a color revolution scenario in that country, Russian Foreign Ministry Spokeswoman Maria Zakharova said on Friday.

    "We consider it [the package of sanctions] as an open attempt at interfering into Belarus’ domestic affairs, at political bribery of those forces (lured in a number of EU capitals) that would not hesitate to stage another color revolution in their native country with catastrophic consequences in their selfish interests. As a matter of fact, some EU countries and structures already make no secret that they are laying the groundwork for such a scenario," she said.

    Russia thinks "deliberate external pressure on the whole sectors of a sovereign country, which pursues an independent policy and refuses to do the bidding of EU officials, categorically unacceptable," Zakharova stressed. "This biased decision is another manifestation of the European Union’s double standards as the European Union refuses to see obvious problems in the sphere of human rights and democratic freedoms in its own member nations and closes partners, such as Ukraine and the United States".

    She stressed that Russia is committed to its allied liabilities and will closely coordinate with Belarus measures essential for the sustainable and sovereign development of the brotherly country. "Our opponents and ill-wishers will never succeed in achieving their vicious goals," she added.

    On June 24, the European Union imposed sectoral sanctions against Belarus that come into effect from June 25. This is the first time in history, when economic restrictions were imposed against Belarus. Thus, the European Union banned import of potassium chloride used mostly to manufacture fertilizers and petrochemical products, expect gasoline and diesel fuel from Belarus. It is also banned to export to Belarus ingredients for the tobacco industry, technologies and software for internet control, double use vehicle that can be used by the army or police. European investors have been banned to lend money to Belarusian state structures, companies and banks with the state participation of more than 50% for a term of more than three months.

    Some EU countries make no secret of their plans of color revolution scenarios in Belarus - World - TASS

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    Roman Protasevich, Sofia Sapega sign pretrial agreement — Belarusian investigation

    According to the Belarusian Investigative Committee, the suspects provide consistent confessions

    MINSK, June 25. /TASS/. Belarusian Investigative Committee changed the prevention measure for Roman Protasevich and Sofia Sapega to house arrest, the Committee announced Friday, adding that the two signed a pretrial agreement with the investigators.

    "In their application, they vowed to assist the preliminary investigation in investigation of crimes, identification of accomplices and do everything possible to atone for the damage, caused by the crimes. With this taken into consideration, and after reviewing the suspect’s plea for replacement of the prevention measure, the investigation has found it possible to change it to house arrest," the agency said in its statement.

    According to the Committee, the suspects provide consistent confessions.

    On Friday, Russian Embassy in Belarus told TASS that Sapega was put under house arrest, and that a visit by a Russian consul is in the works. Later, it became known that Protasevich was also put into home detention.

    Roman Protasevich, Sofia Sapega sign pretrial agreement — Belarusian investigation - World - TASS

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    Quote Originally Posted by Klondyke View Post
    Russia considers the package of sanctions as an open attempt at interfering into B̵e̵l̵a̵r̵u̵s̵ Russia’s domestic affairs
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    Russia thinks other countries "deliberate external pressure on the whole sectors of a sovereign country categorically unacceptable," Zakharova stressed.
    FTFY.

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    Luckily Russia never interferes in another country's affairs

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    Quote Originally Posted by panama hat View Post
    Luckily Russia never interferes in another country's affairs
    I feel a "whatabout" coming....

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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    I feel a "whatabout" coming....
    "Whatabout" argument (as if it ever was an argument) is always a good argument (as if it ever was an argument) when not wanting to hear that the rule of law is different for different people, cases...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Klondyke View Post
    "Whatabout" argument is always a good argument



    It's noticeable that you're quite fond of it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Klondyke View Post
    "Whatabout" argument (as if it ever was an argument) is always a good argument (as if it ever was an argument) when not wanting to hear that the rule of law is different for different people, cases...

    I've read this three times and I still have no idea (no names here) idea of what you are trying to say.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheRealKW View Post
    I've read this three times and I still have no idea (no names here) idea of what you are trying to say.
    Who should be surprised?

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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    I feel a "whatabout" coming....
    Not this time

    We do not deal in whataboutwhataboutisme

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    Quote Originally Posted by Klondyke View Post
    Who should be surprised?
    That you write incomprehensible shit? No-one.

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    As Belarus ends partnership with EU, Minsk plans to merge tax system with Russia & establish common markets for energy, transport


    Neighbors Russia and Belarus plan to further deepen their close economic ties by creating multiple integrated markets and working together to unify vital tax and customs legislation, Minsk’s representative in Moscow has revealed.

    Vladimir Semashko, the Belarusian ambassador to Russia, explained on Monday that the pair were working towards uniting their energy and transport sectors, and would also be making plans to transition to a joint industrial and agricultural policy. The two nations expect to have concluded this by January 1, 2022, he said.

    The move came on the same day that Belarus announced it would be withdrawing from the European Union’s ‘Eastern Partnership’, a scheme designed to pull former Soviet states into Brussels’ orbit and away from Russia.


    Minsk and Moscow have been part of a so-called Union State since 1999, when current Belarusian leader Alexander Lukashenko and the former Russian President Boris Yeltsin signed a treaty and agreed to begin integration. According to the document’s text, the two nations planned to create a joint parliament, court, and cabinet. Since then, unification has regularly been discussed, including the creation of a shared currency, military, and customs space. However, 22 years later, many of these ideas are yet to come to fruition.

    “Much has already been done [to integrate] in social policy, economic policy, defense, and so on,” Semashko told Belarusian state media agency BelTA. “Today, we have really reached the time when we have to bolster the economic foundation of the union of Belarus and Russia.”

    The ambassador noted that the two countries would work on integrating 28 sectors of the economy, including oil, gas, and electricity. They would also be focusing on unifying tax and customs legislation, he said.

    “We are now at a fundamentally new stage,” he noted, explaining that Belarusian-Russian trade turnover had increased by 30% in the past year. Minsk is Moscow’s fourth-largest trading partner.


    Further integration of Russia and Belarus has long been discussed, with both President Lukashenko and his Russian counterpart, Vladimir Putin, regularly returning to the topic. Discussions between the two leaders have intensified in recent months, especially following the unrest in Belarus after last year’s disputed presidential election and the subsequent Western interest in working with Svetlana Tikhanovskaya. Her supporters claim she was the real winner of the contest.

    Earlier this month, Belarusian Prime Minister Roman Golovchenko revealed that negotiations between Moscow and Minsk were “entering the home stretch.”

    As Belarus ends partnership with EU, Minsk plans to merge tax system with Russia & establish common markets for energy, transport — RT Russia & Former Soviet Union


    If the objective of the western destabilisation campaign was to drive Russia and Belarus closer together, it has certainly succeeded.


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    Yes, we know Lukashenko will do anything to ensure Putin keeps him in a job.

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    Belarus moves Roman Protasevich, Sofia Sapega to house arrest


    Belarus moves Roman Protasevich, Sofia Sapega to house arrest | Europe News | Al Jazeera
    Dissident journalist Roman Protasevich, who was dramatically detained in Minsk last month after his plane was forced to land in Minsk, has been moved to house arrest, according to Belarusian opposition figures.


    Protasevich, 26, was arrested on May 23 along with his Russian partner Sofia Sapega, 23, after Belarusian authorities scrambled a fighter jet to intercept their Ryanair jet in response to an alleged bomb threat.

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    Ryanair jet grounding activists Protasevich & Sapega have been released from Belarusian prison cells to house arrest, families say

    According to her parents, Sapega moved alone to a rented apartment in the city two or three days ago. Her stepfather, Sergei Dudich, said he was in “shock” at the development and had already been able to meet with her at a restaurant. “Of course, we are glad that she is not in jail,” her grandfather added. “These are completely different living conditions.”
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    The western media was talking like this guy was to be tortured and killed. Now is gonna be in house arrest with his girlfriend.

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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    Yes, we know Lukashenko will do anything to ensure Putin keeps him in a job.
    Ah, when dictators get lonely . . . they turn to Putin

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    Quote Originally Posted by Backspin View Post
    The western media was talking like this guy was to be tortured and killed. Now is gonna be in house arrest with his girlfriend.
    And you probably think they gave their "confessions" without torture or any sort of intimidation. BTW It's always easier to give consistent confessions when they're written for you. Most police interogators, at least in western democracies, will tell you when two stories given by suspects are exactly the same they are most likely contrived.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hugh Cow View Post
    And you probably think they gave their "confessions" without torture or any sort of intimidation. BTW It's always easier to give consistent confessions when they're written for you. Most police interogators, at least in western democracies, will tell you when two stories given by suspects are exactly the same they are most likely contrived.

    Wake me up when Julian Assange is out on house arrest with his girlfriend

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