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    Gangster Assassinated at Airport as Vancouver Gang War Heats Up

    Vancouver in British Columbia frequently finds itself in the top ten most desirable places to live in the world. But although it is an affluent city with a mild climate, great restaurants and beautiful mountains on its doorstep, it is a city with a dark underbelly.

    Detectives in the Canadian city of Vancouver are desperately trying to keep the lid on a gang war which claimed another life on Sunday, 9 May, when a well-known gangster was gunned down at the city’s international airport.

    Karman Singh Grewal, who had been a leading light in the notorious United Nations gang, was shot dead as he headed for a flight at the domestic departure terminal.

    Full story Passengers Run for Cover as Gangster Assassinated at Airport as Vancouver Gang War Heats Up - Sputnik International

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    Quote Originally Posted by Backspin View Post
    it is a city with a dark underbelly
    That is enough detail about your well documented seedy and sleazy underbelly Spinner

    Strange place for a gang murder but a similar thing happened at Sydney Airport not that long back if I recall

    Big bikie gang showdown erupted where I think at least one fella got shot dead

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    Quote Originally Posted by Looper View Post
    Strange place for a gang murder
    Good place

    I guess that very few will carry arms if they are about to board a plane or are getting off one.

    Defenceless

    There will however be a lot of cameras around

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    Socals neighbors are spreading their bullets into other neighborhoods. How's that diversity working out for you now Trudeau?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Backspin View Post
    Vancouver in British Columbia frequently finds itself in the top ten most desirable places to live in the world. But although it is an affluent city with a mild climate, great restaurants and beautiful mountains on its doorstep, it is a city with a dark underbelly.

    Detectives in the Canadian city of Vancouver are desperately trying to keep the lid on a gang war which claimed another life on Sunday, 9 May, when a well-known gangster was gunned down at the city’s international airport.

    Karman Singh Grewal, who had been a leading light in the notorious United Nations gang, was shot dead as he headed for a flight at the domestic departure terminal.

    Full story Passengers Run for Cover as Gangster Assassinated at Airport as Vancouver Gang War Heats Up - Sputnik International

    sputniknews? You couldn't find a Canadian source? You know, since the gang war is happening there and all?

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    Victim identified in deadly afternoon shooting at Vancouver International Airport

    Victim identified in deadly afternoon shooting at Vancouver International Airport


    Karman Grewal had previously been targeted and police warned in 2017 that he was a threat to public safety

    CBC News · Posted: May 10, 2021 10:29 AM PT | Last Updated: May 11



    Police investigate a deadly shooting at Vancouver International Airport in Richmond, B.C., on Sunday. A man well known for having links to gang activity was killed outside the airport's departures terminal. (Maggie MacPherson/CBC)RCMP have identified the victim of a fatal shooting at Vancouver International Airport on Sunday as a longtime gang associate who was the subject of a rare public warning more than three years ago.
    Karman Grewal, 28, was shot and killed outside the airport's departures terminal in front of several witnesses around 3 p.m. PT.
    He was well known to police, officers said Monday, and his death is believed to be related to the ongoing gang conflict in B.C.'s Lower Mainland. More than 10 people have been shot since mid-April.
    "As members of the public, you are undoubtedly and deservedly concerned … I can advise you that we are working around the clock in both overt and covert investigations to hit these gangsters at every possible turn," said RCMP Asst. Comm. Dwayne McDonald.



    The mid-afternoon shooting sent travellers scrambling for cover. Simonne Chalifoux, 58, told CBC News she saw bullets ricochet off the glass as she was sitting near a terminal window to wait for her flight home to Whitehorse.
    "I'm staring out the window and … the next thing you know, 'bam, bam, bam, pop, pop, pop.' It was so fast, so consecutive," said Chalifoux, who had been in B.C. to care for her father after surgery for a stroke.
    "I'm like, 'Holy crap, this just happened.' It took about 10 seconds to resonate … and then I realized I had to get out of where I was sitting immediately."
    WATCH | Simonne Chalifoux recalls how she selected a seat in an airport alcove and then heard the shooting:





    Woman recalls hearing sounds of shots fired at YVR

    1 day ago1:08







    Simonne Challifoux was waiting for her flight at Vancouver International Airport when gunfire erupted close to where she was sitting. 1:08
    Questions about suspects' escape

    RCMP faced a series of questions Monday as to how the suspects escaped the airport, known as YVR.
    The airport is secluded on an island in Richmond, B.C., with a dedicated police and security presence. The major routes and bridges off the island were shut down after the shooting, but the suspects were able to get away.
    Police intercepted the getaway vehicle — described as a red or maroon Honda Pilot — but suspects
    shot at the responding officers. They did not fire back or chase the suspects out of concern someone in the area might get hurt, officials said.
    The suspect vehicle was last seen in the area of Sea Island Way and Garden City Road.
    WATCH | Fatal Vancouver airport shooting appears to be linked to gang violence:





    Vancouver airport shooting linked to gang violence

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    The fatal shooting of a 28-year-old man at the Vancouver airport Sunday is considered the latest retaliation in a growing wave of gang violence in parts of B.C. 2:41
    "That airport is immediately accessible to a majority of thoroughfares. When criminals commit crime, they don't play by the rules," said McDonald.
    "There's people in cars, everywhere," the officer continued. "Unlike the movies, when bullets start to fly, they eventually stop somewhere … we can't take that chance to allow a gun battle to rage through the streets."
    The killing was the first deadly shooting at the airport, though there was an attempted murder there in 2015. Chalifoux said RCMP officers on scene Sunday seemed shocked.
    "It really will stick in my mind how shaken up the members were themselves," she said.
    Grewal targeted before

    Grewal had previously been targeted in a gang-related shooting. RCMP released his photo, along with those of four other men, after a series of shootings in 2017. Officers said the men were still targets and a threat to public safety, as they had not co-operated with investigators.
    Two of the five men
    included in the public warning are now dead, including Grewal.



    "If someone remains in the gang lifestyle, it stops in only one of two ways: jail or death. It's as simple as that," said McDonald.


    Surrey RCMP have released photos of five men in 2017 after they were targeted in a series of shootings. Karman Grewal, top left, was killed at Vancouver International Airport on Sunday. Ibrahim Ibrahim, top right, is also dead. (Surrey RCMP)
    Charge laid in 2nd weekend shooting

    The shooting at the airport was the second in Metro Vancouver in as many days. On Monday, the RCMP's Integrated Homicide Investigation Team (IHIT) announced a murder charge had been laid in a shooting that left one man dead and hurt an innocent bystander in Burnaby, B.C., on Saturday.
    Ahmed Riyaz Tahir faces one count of first-degree murder
    in the death of Blerton Dalipi, who was known as Toni.
    Dalipi, 19, was shot after leaving a business on 6th Street between 12th and 13th Avenue. He died in hospital.


    Broken windows are pictured at Vancouver International Airport after the shooting on Sunday. (Maggie MacPherson/CBC)
    RCMP revealed Monday a second man was hit by a stray bullet. He later showed up in hospital with gunshot wounds and is expected to recover from non-life threatening injuries.
    "This individual is an innocent victim and he just happened to be at the wrong place at the wrong time," said IHIT Supt. Dave Chauhan.
    According to court records, Tahir was charged with attempted murder in a New Westminster, B.C., shooting in 2019.
    The attempted murder charge was stayed and Tahir was given a five-year firearms ban and a one-year peace bond in December 2019.
    Public safety minister addresses shooting

    Monday afternoon, Public Safety Minister Mike Farnworth assured reporters that there is "considerable sharing of information between police forces" when asked whether a regional police force was needed to tackle the gun violence issue after the rash of recent shootings across different municipalities and police jurisdictions.
    "We have the integrated Homicide Investigation Team drawn from communities across the Lower Mainland, for example, the same with CFSEU right across the province (Combined Forces Special Enforcement Unit B.C.)," he said. "They work very closely together."


    Police responded to the shooting at Vancouver International Airport around 3 p.m. PT on Sunday. Investigators are looking for dashcam video from those who were in the area. (Maggie MacPherson/CBC)
    Farnworth explained that approximately 40 per cent of guns brought to B.C. come from other parts of the country and the remainder are often transported across the border.
    He says the province is working with the federal government to tighten security at the border to stop firearms from being brought to Canada from the United States. Farnworth added that both the federal and provincial government have brought in legislation to control firearms.
    "We also brought in our own legislation around guns and gangs requiring tighter storage rules and regulations around how they're used — the banning, for example, of imitation firearms," he said.

    https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/burnaby-shooting-ihit-update-1.6020644

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    Quote Originally Posted by pickel View Post
    Socals neighbors are spreading their bullets into other neighborhoods. How's that diversity working out for you now Trudeau?

    Which would put you in beautiful White Rock where I lived for thirty years.

    Is that Hell's Angels hangout still up from Eastbeach?

    Are the injuns still on the warpath?

    Does the home team still win all their games?.

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    These gangland murders happen very frequently around Vancouver although as Pickel says more in BS's charming neighbourhood.

    Indian on Indian, Chinese on Indian, Indian on Chinese etc., etc. All possible permutations accounted for.

    Not Justin but daddy, Club of Rome member, Pierre.

    I saw this coming 40 years back.
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    Quote Originally Posted by russellsimpson View Post
    I saw this coming 40 years back.
    'course you did.


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    Quote Originally Posted by russellsimpson View Post
    Which would put you in beautiful White Rock where I lived for thirty years.

    Is that Hell's Angels hangout still up from Eastbeach?

    Are the injuns still on the warpath?

    Does the home team still win all their games?.

    Did you ever go to T-bars ? The place beside it was a HA drug distribution operation.

    This is why I hate BC. There is douchey gang activity all the time

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    Quote Originally Posted by Backspin View Post
    Did you ever go to T-bars
    T-bars?

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    I liked Edmonton and Calgary more. Of course the coast looks nice and shit. But when you're in Alberta , you just go to Mexico for that.

    There is just more normal ppl and if you had a nice vehicle , it's probably because you had a good job or business. And not because you were some gangster douchebag.

    And KW. I posted the Sputnik article because that's where I seen it. I don't pay any attention to the local news. It just makes me ill.

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    Quote Originally Posted by panama hat View Post
    never realised that the Indian community had gangs/gangsters/organised crime gangs as well.
    Not visited south of KL?

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheRealKW View Post
    Not visited south of KL?
    What areas? You mean JB?

    Not saying they're not involved in crime, rather gangs like Triads etc...

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    Quote Originally Posted by panama hat View Post
    never realised that the Indian community had gangs/gangsters/organised crime gangs as well.
    Gun related gang violence in the metro Vancouver area is almost exclusively committed by Indian immigrants. They also have the highest covid numbers. Diversity.

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    ^ That is very surprising . . . especially considering the immigration guidelines - are they 'recent/adult' immigrants or first gen Canadians?

    Similar for China/HK immigrants and triads/gangs?

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    Quote Originally Posted by panama hat View Post
    are they 'recent/adult' immigrants or first gen Canadians?
    Not many of them are "adults". Most are late teens, early twenties. Older than that and they are usually dead or in jail. Immigrants and kids of immigrants.

    Gang problems in the USA usually stem from poverty. Most of the Indo gangsters here come from fairly well off families. A bunch of posers really.

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    ^^^ yes, JB. But fair point, not really organised like triads or anything. Usually just a few bozos.

    Quote Originally Posted by pickel View Post
    Most of the Indo gangsters here come from fairly well off families.
    Indos now? Weren’t we talking Indian?

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    Quote Originally Posted by pickel View Post
    Not many of them are "adults". Most are late teens, early twenties. Older than that and they are usually dead or in jail. Immigrants and kids of immigrants.
    2nd Gen Immigrants, then.

    Same issues Aus had/has with Vietnamese and Lebs.

    The 2nd Gen immigrants are born in their new country, usually into the lower socio-economic order of things - social housing, low employment, victims of racism etc etc. The result by their late teens are drugs, guns, crime, low affiliation to their country and its people.

    Same in most countries with a high number of immigrants from one region.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheRealKW View Post
    Indos now? Weren’t we talking Indian?
    Indons vs Indos, perhaps?

    Quote Originally Posted by pickel View Post
    Gang problems in the USA usually stem from poverty. Most of the Indo gangsters here come from fairly well off families.
    Bizarre . . . well off kids. Nicely done, parents.

    Quote Originally Posted by Edmond View Post
    Same issues Aus had/has with Vietnamese and Lebs.
    Yes and no. Lebanese and Vietnamese were usually poor and refugees whereas pickel says that these are from anything but.


    Quote Originally Posted by Edmond View Post
    Same in most countries with a high number of immigrants from one region.
    True . . . it's amazing what 'freedom' does.

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    Two kinds of Indians in Canada.

    #1 Indian with a feather.
    #2 Indian with a dot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheRealKW View Post
    Indos now? Weren’t we talking Indian?
    The Indian community in Canada are referred to as Indo-Canadian.

    Quote Originally Posted by Edmond View Post
    2nd Gen Immigrants, then.

    Same issues Aus had/has with Vietnamese and Lebs.

    The 2nd Gen immigrants are born in their new country, usually into the lower socio-economic order of things - social housing, low employment, victims of racism etc etc. The result by their late teens are drugs, guns, crime, low affiliation to their country and its people.

    Same in most countries with a high number of immigrants from one region.
    You clearly didn't read my post.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pickel View Post
    You clearly didn't read my post.
    That's true.


    Probably isn't the first time, not likely be the last.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Edmond View Post
    That's true.


    Probably isn't the first time, not likely be the last.
    That's okay, it's a free world. Carry on with your comments of things you know nothing about. You'll fit in well on TD.

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    In the U.S. something like this would be lucky to get reported on, never mind front page.

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