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    Lukashenko assassination attempt

    Russia alleges assassination plot against Belarus leader Lukashenko
    The opposition denounced news of the plot as a ‘provocation.’

    VILNIUS — Russia’s FSB security service said it had exposed an alleged planned military coup and assassination plot against Alexander Lukashenko, the authoritarian leader of neighboring Belarus.

    According to the FSB statement, Russian authorities detained Yuri Zenkovich, a lawyer who has dual American-Belarusian citizenship, and Alexander Feduta, a well-known Belarusian literature scholar and political commentator.

    Feduta was an active member of Lukashenko’s first campaign team in the 1994 presidential election, and after electoral victory became the government official responsible for media policy. However, he soon resigned from the government and joined the opposition.

    “The opposition activists chose the day of the Victory Parade in Minsk on May 9 as the date of their military coup,” the FSB said in a statement published on Saturday. “The conspirators were detained by Russian security agencies and handed over to their Belarusian partners.”

    On the same day, Lukashenko accused the Belarusian opposition of alleged plans to “kidnap” some of his children.

    “We discovered that they want to come to Minsk and organize an assassination attempt against the president and his children,” Lukashenko told state media journalists during a subbotnik, a Soviet-style collective effort to clean up the country’s communities.

    Lukashenko also accused the U.S. administration of being behind the plot.

    “Another thing surprises me: Why do the Americans behave this way? Remember, no one can assign the task of eliminating a president other than the top political leadership. Only they can make that call, not the special services,” Lukashenko said, according to his media office.

    Lukashenko added that his Russian counterpart Vladimir Putin had raised the issue during a Tuesday phone call with U.S. President Joe Biden. “I’m grateful to Putin. When he talked with Biden, he asked him this [Belarus-related] question. There was gurgling, no clear answer.”

    Russia alleges assassination plot against Belarus leader Lukashenko – POLITICO

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    Putin Raised Alleged Belarus Coup Plot During Call With Biden
    19 April 2021

    FSB said it helped Belarus detain two plotters in Moscow
    Russia claims U.S. consulted on attempted plot to seize power

    Russian President Vladimir Putin raised an alleged attempt to seize power in Belarus during a call with his U.S. counterpart Joe Biden, as the sides accuse each other of interfering in the affairs of eastern European countries.

    Putin discussed the coup plot, which Russia says was hatched in consultation with the U.S., during last week’s call with Biden, Kremlin spokesman Dmitry Peskov told journalists Monday.

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    FSB failed in their duty ... again

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    So the US dirty tricks brigade is at it again. Yawwwn.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sabang View Post
    So the US dirty tricks brigade is at it again. Yawwwn.

    Continuously. Forever.
    It's what they do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Klondyke View Post
    Lukashenko also accused the U.S. administration of being behind the plot.
    That's a serious accusation.



    Quote Originally Posted by Klondyke View Post
    Lukashenko added that his Russian counterpart Vladimir Putin had raised the issue during a Tuesday phone call with U.S. President Joe Biden. “I’m grateful to Putin. When he talked with Biden, he asked him this [Belarus-related] question. There was gurgling, no clear answer.”
    Another troubling allegation.

    If the allegations prove to have merit then that is a serious matter. Of course we will never get an unequivocal answer, not ever. I, one the one hand, would not be surprised if the allegations are true but then, on the other hand, I find it hard to believe that the Americans would get involved in such a fucked up arrangement. It is not as though that they are without experience.

    Pretty much same old/same old I guess.

    If the goal is regime change then this is a dogs breakfast of an attempt. Which is probably why accusations of American insolvent need, at this point anyway, be taken with a good smattering of salt.
    A true diplomat is a person who can tell you to go to hell in such a manner that you will be asking for directions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by baldrick View Post
    FSB failed in their duty ... again
    Lol by catching coup plotters on tape , red handed and busting it up. Weeks after Biden called Putin a killer.

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    Generally speaking, the phrase "Russia said" means the statements following it can be taken with a whole mountain of salt.

    In this case, it's all part of the "nasty foreigners are out to get us" narrative that Putin has been using at home recently, too.

    They are so fucking predictable, as much as our vladbots are gullible.

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    Quote Originally Posted by russellsimpson View Post
    regime change
    Some attempt "regime change" (no sanctions are imposed afterwards), some attempt meddling (sanctions imposed and expulsions...)

    There is different "efficacy" of the methods and also "different reporting"...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Backspin View Post
    Lol by catching coup plotters on tape , red handed and busting it up
    if it was anyone but the sludge from the aquarium , you would be hinting darkly about a false flag

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    Quote Originally Posted by Klondyke View Post
    FSB said it helped Belarus detain two plotters in Moscow
    Russia claims U.S. consulted on attempted plot to seize power
    and all of that could well be fabricated by Russia, Putin has for a long time had his eyes on Belarus.

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    ^Conspiracy theory?

    A riddle: What is the difference between conspiracy theory and the facts? (sometimes 1 - 2 years, sometimes 60 years when opening the archives...)

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    Quote Originally Posted by lom View Post
    and all of that could well be fabricated by Russia, Putin has for a long time had his eyes on Belarus.
    Lol. You know nothing about Russia or Belarus. Belarus is basically a little USSR relying on huge subsidies and business from Russia.

    The public sector employs at least 30% of the working population and generates about half of Belarusian GDP. State-owned enterprises are a huge, inefficient sector of the economy

    The Russian economy is both the main market for the products of Belarusian state-owned enterprises and the main importer of raw materials, especially oil. Belarus used to buy Russian oil at a discount, and then sell oil products at market prices to Europe and Ukraine. Periodically, this energy subsidy reached more than 10% of GDP

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    Quote Originally Posted by Backspin View Post
    Lol. You know nothing about Russia or Belarus.
    Still I knew all that you posted there.
    Belarus fits well into a re-Sovietization..

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    Quote Originally Posted by lom View Post
    and all of that could well be fabricated by Russia, Putin has for a long time had his eyes on Belarus.
    Putin has been propping up the dictator, lest the success of democracy protests spreads back to Mother Russia.

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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    Putin has been propping up the dictator
    He has and he even doesn't like Lukashenko but the weaker Lukashenko gets the stronger Putin hand gets.

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    we are still heading in the wrong direction, towards the abyss, and the United States is the prime mover.
    Mos' Def.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lom View Post
    Still I knew all that you posted there.
    Belarus fits well into a re-Sovietization..
    You didn't know shit. It never left Sovietization for Christ sake
    Holy F

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    Quote Originally Posted by Backspin View Post
    Lol. You know nothing about Russia or Belarus. Belarus is basically a little USSR relying on huge subsidies and business from Russia.

    The public sector employs at least 30% of the working population and generates about half of Belarusian GDP. State-owned enterprises are a huge, inefficient sector of the economy

    The Russian economy is both the main market for the products of Belarusian state-owned enterprises and the main importer of raw materials, especially oil. Belarus used to buy Russian oil at a discount, and then sell oil products at market prices to Europe and Ukraine. Periodically, this energy subsidy reached more than 10% of GDP
    For years Belarus has been forced and bribed by the U.S.S.R. and Russia.
    The fact remains that the people of Belarus want nothing to do with Russia and want to turn to Europe. Like all countries!
    Nobody likes a Russian (regime). FACT!
    Unless you are a dictator

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    ^Perhaps you wanted to remind us that they, the Belorussians, have always longed to be rather friendly with Germans who decimated almost a quarter of the population (but that were the Nazis) unless at last they were liberated by Stalin's forces.

    So, that's why the Germans with other European friends have now tried to help them, how generous and heart-breaking from them (they have not enough their own problems), also to help the Belarus president-in-abroad (what was her name?)...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Klondyke View Post
    ^Perhaps you wanted to remind us that they, the Belorussians, have always longed to be rather friendly with Germans who decimated almost a quarter of the population (but that were the Nazis) unless at last they were liberated by Stalin's forces.

    So, that's why the Germans with other European friends have now tried to help them, how generous and heart-breaking from them (they have not enough their own problems), also to help the Belarus president-in-abroad (what was her name?)...

    The fact remains that the people of Belarus want nothing to do with Russia....like anybody with a bit of common sense.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HermantheGerman View Post
    The fact remains that the people of Belarus want nothing to do with Russia....like anybody with a bit of common sense.
    Something what you really know from the first hand, don't you?

    Quote Originally Posted by HermantheGerman View Post
    Nobody likes a Russian (regime). FACT!

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    Quote Originally Posted by HermantheGerman View Post
    The fact remains that the people of Belarus want nothing to do with Russia....like anybody with a bit of common sense.
    You should be banned from topics like this with your ignorant drivel.

    9% of Belarusians want to join the EU
    9 percent. An external poll says

    What Belarusians Think About Their Country’s Crisis | Chatham House – International Affairs Think Tank


    However, far fewer Belarusians unequivocally support a pro-European stance – only nine percent favour EU accession

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    Quote Originally Posted by Backspin View Post
    You should be banned from topics like this with your ignorant drivel.


    From your link...

    Although unlikely to be ever proven – given recent allegations of ballots being destroyed - the anecdotal evidence of vote rigging in the election is damning, especially when considering The Central Election Commission in Belarus has claimed Lukashenka secured 80.1 percent of the vote, with Tsikhanouskaya receiving only 10.1 percent.

    More than 70 percent of our survey respondents say they believe the election was a sham, and only 20.6 percent of respondents said they voted for Lukashenka, while 52.2 percent cast their vote for his opponent Sviatlana Tsikhanouskaya, and 13.7 percent refused to reveal how they voted.

    Even taking into account any potential margin of error, it seems extremely likely that Tsikhanouskaya received either more than half the vote overall - which would give her victory in a single round - or at least won enough support to necessitate a second round of voting.

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    Apparently Backspit aka shitstain is humiliating himself once again. This dumbfuck reminds me of BoonMee failing to check his sources.


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