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    Government considering 100 points of ID to get Facebook, Tinder account


    The government could require you to hand over your passport to tech companies before posting online in a move that’s been slammed by experts.

    "The Morrison Government will consider a radical measure to prevent online bullying and trolling, but experts say the proposal would involve serious risks for social media users.

    The government is considering forcing users of social media platforms like Twitter, Facebook and Instagram — as well as online dating platforms like Tinder — to upload 100 points of identification in order to use them.

    The recommendation, which has been raised before, is one of 88 recommendations from a parliamentary committee report looking at family, domestic and sexual violence.
    “In order to open or maintain an existing social media account, customers should be required by law to identify themselves to a platform using 100 points of identification, in the same way as a person must provide identification for a mobile phone account, or to buy a mobile SIM card,” the report suggests.

    It goes on to say that social media platforms “must provide those identifying details when requested by the eSafety Commissioner, law enforcement or as directed by the court”.

    In a nutshell, it would remove the anonymity for those who use such platforms to bully, harass or intimidate other users.

    But it would also mean social media giants — many of which have suffered serious privacy breaches in the past — are holding even more precious information about its users.
    “Are we turning into North Korea? This is Orwellian,” one user wrote on Twitter after reading the recommendation.

    “I’m a social media manager and I honestly don’t get enough out of social media to justify giving them access to my ID,” another wrote.

    Emily van der Nagal is a lecturer at Monash University in Melbourne. She wrote her PhD thesis on the value of social media anonymity and pseudonymity and said of the recommendation: “Don’t do this.”

    “Hello, it’s me, a social media researcher who has argued time and time again that it’s not a good idea to force people to submit ID to use social media,” she wrote on Twitter.

    “It won’t solve harassment; it will only further harm already vulnerable groups. Don’t do this.”

    It is a message shared by the Queensland Anti-cyber-bullying Taskforce, which noted in a 2000 report that a demand to show 100 points of ID to access social media would come with “privacy risks given the challenges social media companies have already experienced with data security”.

    “Identity verification systems raise questions about access to personal and sensitive data,” the report notes.

    “Any regulations considered should therefore ensure that these systems do not reuse collected data for any other purposes.”

    On Thursday, hours after news broke that the Morrison Government was considering the recommendation, #SovietScott began trending on Twitter.

    An update from the government is expected in the coming weeks."

    100 points of ID to get Facebook, Tinder account

    No details of what particular "evidence" delivers in terms of points.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OhOh View Post
    How much personal information would you give TD to join the forum?
    Not much as long as taxexile is alive.

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    Can somebody from down-under tell me what you think "100 points of identification" means?

    Surely it doesn't mean 100 different things about you (name, address, phone number, date of birth, email address, hobbies, favourite colour, lucky number, favourite food, do you wear socks with sandals, bottles or tinnies for your beer, prawns or snags for your barbies, etc).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Neverna View Post
    Can somebody from down-under tell me what you think "100 points of identification" means?
    I cannot believe our preeminent duckduckgo'er needed to ask - Providing 100 points of identification | Your rights, crime and the law | Queensland Government

    Providing 100 points of identification

    You must provide a total of 100 points of Australian or state-issued documents to prove your identity online.

    Different types of identity documents are worth different points. You can use different combinations of documents to make up your 100 points, but you must include at least 1 primary document as part of your 100 points.

    Quote Originally Posted by OhOh View Post
    How much personal information would you give TD to join the forum?
    I would be happy to tell them I think you are a cnut - is that personal enough ?

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    How many points for a 1988 Blockbuster card you borrowed off your mate and never returned?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Neverna View Post
    Can somebody from down-under tell me what you think "100 points of identification" means?
    from Wikipedia. 100 point check - Wikipedia

    Primary documents[edit]

    70 points
    Only one of the following may be claimed:

    • Birth certificate
    • Birth card issued by a registry of births, deaths and marriages
    • Citizenship certificate
    • Current passport
    • Expired passport which has not been cancelled and was current within the preceding two years
    • Other document of identity, having the same characteristics as a passport including diplomatic documents and some documents issued to refugees

    Secondary documents[edit]

    40 points

    • Document issued by authorised deposit-taking institutions (ADIs), banks, building societies, credit unions or registered corporations. The signatory must be a known customer of at least twelve months standing.
    • Written reference from one of the following institutions, verifying name of signatory and signed by both referee and signatory. The signatory must have been known to the referee for at least twelve months.
      • Another financial body certifying that the signatory is a known customer
      • Another customer who has been verified as a signatory by the cash dealer
      • An acceptable referee (refer to AUSTRAC Guideline No. 3 and Information Circular No. 3)

    • Any of the following, which must contain a photograph and a name. Additional documents from this category are awarded 25 points.
      • Drivers licence issued by an Australian state or territory
      • Licence or permit issued under a law of the Commonwealth, a state or territory government (e.g. a boat licence)
      • Identification card issued to a public employee
      • Identification card issued by the Commonwealth, a state or territory government as evidence of the person's entitlement to a financial benefit
      • An identification card issued to a student at a tertiary education institution

    35 points

    • Name and address of signatory verified from any of the following:
      • A document held by the cash dealer giving security over the signatory’s property
      • A mortgage or other instrument of security held by another financial body

    • Must have name and address on:
      • A document held by a cash dealer giving security over your property
      • A mortgage or other instrument of security held by a financial body
      • Local government (council) land tax or rates notice
      • Document from your current employer or previous employer within the last two years
      • Land Titles Office record
      • Document from the Credit Reference Association of Australia

    25 points

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    ^ the trick KW is to copy and paste into your notepad of choice before copy and pasting into the reply box - will remove all the HTML and font formatting

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    the trick KW is to

    you cant teach an old monkey new tricks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by baldrick View Post
    ^ the trick KW is to copy and paste into your notepad of choice before copy and pasting into the reply box - will remove all the HTML and font formatting
    It is one of those - how much of a f*ck do I give - things. KW obviously cares more than I did, as I went and read the wikki page after reading the post and that was it.

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    yes - I did my post with the cut n paste just to have a dig at nev

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