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    Spain denies reports it will round up and deport Britons without visas

    Brexit: Spain denies reports it will round up and deport Britons without visas

    EU rules post-Brexit limit UK nationals to maximum 90-day stay per 180 days


    A British pub in Benidorm. EU rules – which now apply to Britons – limit visa-free visits to those from outside the bloc to six months with an additional restriction of a maximum 90-day stay per 180-day period. Photograph: José Jordan/AFP/Getty Images

    Spain has warned British tourists and second-home owners that they are not entitled to spend more than 90 days in the country at a time post-Brexit, but dismissed reports that offenders would be rounded up and deported if they overstay.
    Rules applying across the EU – which now apply to Britons – limit visa-free visits to those from outside the bloc to six months with an additional restriction of a maximum 90-day stay per 180-day period.

    While the visitor rules do not apply to British nationals settled in the EU lawfully, hundreds if not thousands of unregistered British citizens in Spaincould be affected.

    “These are people who have been flying under the radar for a long time when they should have registered their residence in the country and didn’t for whatever reason,” said Sue Wilson, the chair of Bremain in Spain, a group campaigning for the rights of British migrants living in Spain.

    “If they are unable to prove they were resident before 31 December and get entitlement to remain in Spain, they now face a 90-day deadline to leave the country.

    “Many are still planning to do the same and think the Spanish will either turn a blind eye or will take time to get their act together to enforce the law. But they are kidding themselves. These rules are rules that have applied to third-country nationals for years and the Spanish authorities have no catching up to do.”

    Spanish government sources have lamented what they say are misleading reports in UK media suggesting they will be “deporting” or “kicking out” 500 British nationals in the coming days.

    The Guardian understands that police will not be deployed to search for British over-stayers, but that anyone staying longer than 90 days will be considered to be in an irregular situation and will be subject to the law if they are picked up at a control point.

    British nationals living lawfully in Spain before 31 December are entitled to remain in the country permanently under the Brexit deal.

    However, the new rules are causing anxiety and stress to some who face having to choose their formal country of residency.

    “If they remain in Spain, they have to become officially resident and might be worried about their rights to go home to access the NHS for example. For them it is crunch time,” said one British national in Spain who did not wish to be named.

    Michele Euesden, the Marbella-based managing director of the Euro Weekly newspaper, said there had been a surge in the number of people moving “lock, stock and barrel” back to the UK before they breached their 90-day limit.

    “Some people are frightened of the consequences if they overstay and are afraid if there is another lockdown they will won’t be able to leave and come back again and visit because they will be known to the authorities,” said Euesden, who also offers a one-stop shop for movers to and from Spain.


    She added that the departure of people who had “lived under the radar for 20/30/40 years” and who “contributed nothing” in the way of taxes or social contributions would not be missed.


    A spokesman for Spain’s interior ministry said there were errors in media reports that suggested the government was planning mass deportations of unregistered Britons.

    “Following the UK’s departure from the European Union, and in accordance with the Brexit agreement with EU countries and international conventions, British citizens are subject to the same rules as citizens of other third-party countries,” he said.

    “Like any other third-country citizens, the maximum period they can stay in Spain is three months – unless they have a work, study, or other kind of visa that allows them to stay longer.”

    Government sources said Spain was merely following the rules governing visits and stays in its territory that apply to the UK as a non-EU country.

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    government guidelines state: “Stays in Spain cannot exceed 90 days in an 180-day period, whether in a single visit or various visits. Britons need to use their passports for identification purposes and will be exempt from visas.”

    The interior ministry also pointed out that fewer Britons were visiting Spain at the moment because of Covid travel restrictions, which will end on Tuesday.

    Spain introduced the curbs on 22 December last year in response to the spread of the so-called British strain of coronavirus, allowing entry only to flights and ships carrying Spanish and Andorran citizens or official residents. The restrictions will be lifted on 30 March, but those arriving from the UK will still have to show a negative PCR result from a test taken no more than 72 hours before arrival.

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...t-brexit-rules




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    Well that's disappointing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Buckaroo Banzai View Post
    Well that's disappointing.

    Disturbingly political, actually.
    Does come around.
    Last edited by HuangLao; 30-03-2021 at 06:30 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Buckaroo Banzai View Post
    Well that's disappointing.
    Disappointing that Spain won't round up and deport Britons without a visa?

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    I expect SA and Cryall to be all over this shortly.

    Spain has had a long and fruitful business relationship with the UK.
    Can't see this changing no matter what scaremongering goes on in the media and Brussels.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joe 90 View Post
    Spain has had a long and fruitful business relationship with the UK.
    Yes during the 47 years UK was a member of the union. How easy it was during that time..

    Quote Originally Posted by Joe 90 View Post
    Can't see this changing no matter what scaremongering goes on in the media and Brussels.
    UK citizens will be treated as any other non-EU country citizens when visiting Spain, that is simply the natural consequence of UK not being a member of the union anymore.
    You'd expect to get special treatment?

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    Last edited by lom; 30-03-2021 at 07:04 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lom View Post
    You'd expect to get special treatment?
    of course they do, because British.

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    The Spanish rely heavily on the British pound.

    They were the only EU country that backed the UK/USA on Iraq.

    Yep Spain is firmly in the British pocket, always has been and always will.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lom View Post
    Disappointing that Spain won't round up and deport Britons without a visa?
    Oh, they will . . .


    Quote Originally Posted by Joe 90 View Post
    The Spanish rely heavily on the British pound.
    They don't to the extent that you'd wish. Stats would be good - as would an idea ho easily they'll be replaced by other Europeans




    Quote Originally Posted by Joe 90 View Post
    Spain has had a long and fruitful business relationship with the UK.
    They can't stand the Brit trash. Lots of good Brits retired there but the rest . . . Let's discuss Gibraltar for a moment, shall we.

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    Gibraltar a thorn in the far lefts backside.

    Forever British and a damn fine place, visited many times

    Spain and the UK have a special relationship inextricably tied by a love for each others countries.

    I work with Spanish Brits who voted Brexit so go figure.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joe 90 View Post
    They were the only EU country that backed the UK/USA on Iraq.
    That's not something to be proud of.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lom View Post
    That's not something to be proud of.
    Not at all, just making the point that Spain will always be a close friend of the UK.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lom View Post
    You'd expect to get special treatment?
    Of course he does!

    This is a cornerstone of the brexitmoron belief system.

    Quote Originally Posted by Joe 90 View Post
    I work with Spanish Brits who voted Brexit so go figure.
    It's really not complicated. You do a job for morons...with moronic workmates.

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    If Scotland manage to gain independence would all the jockanese south of the border have to obtain a visa or go back to Scotland? Just asking like.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pragmatic View Post
    If Scotland manage to gain independence would all the jockanese south of the border have to obtain a visa or go back to Scotland? Just asking like.
    That would be up to Britain to decide.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joe 90 View Post
    Not at all, just making the point that Spain will always be a close friend of the UK.
    Not a point well made nor backed-up, I'm afraid.



    Quote Originally Posted by Joe 90 View Post
    Gibraltar a thorn in the far lefts backside.
    Umm . . . nope. What an nonsensical thing to say.


    As I said, some good Brits have settled there and assimilate . . . most of them are . . . well, not worth it and not liked much

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    I wouldn't be surprised to see the Spanish do this; great opportunity to mop up some property at cutthroat prices.

    Then let them all back in again to buy up at a premium.

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    You were doing well until:
    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    Then let them all back in again to buy up at a premium.

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    Quote Originally Posted by panama hat View Post
    You were doing well until:
    What you buy villa off Brit at half price because he has to leave.

    Then you relax the law and sell it to another Brit for full price.

    Or you could flog it to a frog or a squarehead.

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    ^ Or rent to Brits who want to stay 90 days?

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    Portugal is better anyway.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sabang View Post
    Portugal is better anyway.
    It's the drug laws, isn't it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    Then you relax the law and sell it to another Brit for full price.
    I can't relax the law . . . not in my purview.

    Why would you be against deporting illegal immigrants? Other countries do it. Australia and NZ deport Brits. The US, Canada . . . everyone deports Brits.


    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    Or you could flog it to a frog or a squarehead.
    At least there'd be soap, toothpaste, mops, vacuum cleaners, food etc . . . something soap-dodgers know very little about

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    The US, Canada . . . everyone deports Brits.
    Even britain.


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    Quote Originally Posted by sabang View Post
    The US, Canada . . . everyone deports Brits.
    Even britain.
    Uk didn't deport that Begum bitch. They just denied her to re-enter

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