US, EU, Britain, Canada Impose Sanctions on Chinese Officials Over Uyghurs

**panama hat** · 28-03-2021, 06:18 AM

Originally Posted by hallelujah

The top post of the page for me sees Klongdick and OhOh talking about the need for verified facts.

Precious . . .

**sabang** · 28-03-2021, 06:39 AM

more than 30 Chinese celebrities have ended their promotional partnerships or said they would cut ties with brands they accused of "smearing" cotton produced in Xinjiang, including H&M, Nike, Adidas, Puma and Calvin Klein.

The stars include A-list actress Yang Mi, top pop idol Wang Yibo, Uyghur actress Dilraba Dilmurat, Hong Kong Cantopop singer Eason Chan and Taiwanese cellist Ouyang Nana.

The scale of the celebrity exodus is unprecedented — so much so that on Chinese social media, March 25 has been dubbed "contract termination day" among China's entertainment circles.

The collective support from celebrities is just the latest example of the role they are expected to play in an ever more nationalistic China — that of vocal defenders of the country's actions, even if it means sacrificing their own business opportunities.

While some of them are more than happy to speak out, either because of their genuine support for the government or the pragmatic belief that doing so could benefit their careers, others simply cannot afford to stay silent under intense online pressure and public scrutiny.

'A nation's dignity is not to be violated'

The latest outrage comes after the Party's youth wing, the Communist Youth League, on Wednesday posted an old statement from H&M, about Xinjiang on Weibo. In the statement, which was released in September 2020, H&M, the world's second-largest clothing retailer, said that it was "deeply concerned" over reports of forced labor in the production of cotton in Xinjiang and that it had stopped buying cotton from growers in the region.

In the Weibo post, the Communist Youth League denounced the company's stance. "Spreading rumors to boycott Xinjiang cotton while trying to make a profit in China? Wishful thinking!" it said.
Actor Huang Xuan, who had been a brand ambassador for H&M since last April, announced soon after that he would no longer work with the company. Another H&M ambassador, Song Qian, followed with a similar announcement.

But the public ire did not stop at H&M. Social media users found a statement from Nike, published nearly a year ago, that said it was "concerned about reports of forced labor in, and connected to, Xinjiang."
As the outrage spread to Nike, its brand ambassador Wang Yibo came under fire for not immediately cutting ties with the company. Amid growing criticism over his silence, Wang's agency eventually announced on Thursday morning that the star had ended all cooperation with the sportswear brand.

"Our agency and Mr. Wang resolutely resist any remark and action that smears China. A nation's dignity is not to be violated. (We) resolutely safeguard the motherland's interest," the statement said.

Full article Chinese celebrities rush to defend Beijing's Xinjiang policy by cutting ties with international brands (cnnphilippines.com)

This is Uyghur actress Dilraba Dilmarat. She has over 31 million instagram followers, and is Chinas most popular minority star-

The World Is Obsessed Over This Chinese Actress Of Uyghur Ethnicity & TBH, We Are Too – Lipstiq.com

I think I would prefer to be on Her side- she could sell me anything. Unfortunately, she is being wooed by a smitten Brazilian footballer.

**panama hat** · 28-03-2021, 07:03 AM

You really think that means anything?

It's the tried and tested authoritarian way - get a celebrity from a massacred minority and get them to speak glowingly about the regime under threat of punishment of their families.

Same thing in the old east block, African dictatorships etc ...

**sabang** · 28-03-2021, 07:09 AM

They are fighting fire with fire. Like any trade based war, both sides lose- but I am pretty sure that the biggest losers in this ill chosen dispute will not be China.

There are Uyghur restaurants all over China- the food has become very popular there. There are uyghur celebrities, senior diplomats and politicians (including the Governor of Xinjiang SAR), Uyghur migrant communities too all over China. They are not some persecuted minority being shuffled into Concentration camps like the Jews before WW2. You are being systematically lied to.

Now several prominent Uyghurs are speaking out against this calumny, which is hardly surprising. Most Uyghur are proud Chinese citizens- not Seperatists. They don't like the Islamic terrorist front (or what is left of it) any more than most Irish & Brits love the IRA, or Spaniards the Basque ETA. You are doing these people absolutely no favors by 'bigging up' the radicals.

**panama hat** · 28-03-2021, 07:14 AM

Originally Posted by sabang

They are fighting fire with fire

They (the Communist Chinese government in Beijing) is fighting with Uighur lives

**Klondyke** · 28-03-2021, 08:30 AM

Anyway, it's really a heart-breaking the care and concern about Muslims.
But obviously there are certain differences, good and bad Muslims: In Kosovo and Chechnya and now the Uighurs.
Not the Rohingyas, not the zillions in Afgh, Iraq, Libya, Syria, not the ones at home neighborhood...

**sabang** · 28-03-2021, 09:23 AM

Anyway, it's really a heart-breaking the care and concern about Muslims.

Yeh, I really noticed that in the run-up to the disastrous invasion of Iraq. "Ragheads" etc.
Our Humanitarian concern is oh so touching. Until the next news cycle that is, the next invasion.
And the most amazing thing? They still don't know they are being lied to. And they never will.

**lom** · 28-03-2021, 09:38 AM

Originally Posted by sabang

Our Humanitarian concern is oh so touching. Until the next news cycle that is, the next invasion.
And the most amazing thing? They still don't know they are being lied to. And they never will.

but Sabang is different, a classic "I vs They" piece
How does it feel to be so enlightened?

**russellsimpson** · 28-03-2021, 09:50 AM

The Mass importation of vast number of Han Chinese into this area and Tibet is reason enough for me to call it a genocide.

**Klondyke** · 28-03-2021, 09:56 AM

Anyway, it's really a heart-breaking the care and concern about Muslims.

And what about the care in Abu-Graib? Some who had disclosed it are are awaiting 130 years sentence...

And didn't Obama (and his VP) care enough about the Muslims on Cuba island? Obvioiusly, did not care enough in his 2 terms, hopefully his then underling will amend it now...

**russellsimpson** · 28-03-2021, 09:57 AM

When I did the OP I intended the thread to be more about the geopolitical implications of the beginning of the collective sanctions against China.

Life is difficult and then you die.

**russellsimpson** · 28-03-2021, 10:08 AM

Like Bernie said (to paraphase),

Hillary's e-mails, Hillary's e-mails, Hillary's damned e-mails.

**panama hat** · 28-03-2021, 11:07 AM

Originally Posted by sabang

They are fighting fire with fire

Originally Posted by panama hat

They (the Communist Chinese government in Beijing) is fighting with Uighur lives

Originally Posted by Klondyke

Anyway

Nice deflection from the discussion Klondick style . . .

Originally Posted by russellsimpson

The Mass importation of vast number of Han Chinese into this area and Tibet is reason enough for me to call it a genocide.

Here we go - a thoughtful post and a typical Klngdick response/deflection

Originally Posted by Klondyke

And what about the care in Abu-Graib?

Originally Posted by Klondyke

And didn't Obama

FOK

**Backspin** · 28-03-2021, 11:30 AM

Originally Posted by panama hat

You really think that means anything?

It's the tried and tested authoritarian way - get a celebrity from a massacred minority and get them to speak glowingly about the regime under threat of punishment of their families.

Same thing in the old east block, African dictatorships etc ...

So you really believe that there is massacres going on there. Jesus Christ. I believed Saddam Hussain had WMD's too but at least I learned something.

**Backspin** · 28-03-2021, 11:33 AM

Originally Posted by russellsimpson

The Mass importation of vast number of Han Chinese into this area and Tibet is reason enough for me to call it a genocide.

That's a right wing talking point you are using. You know , the population replacement happening in white countries. In north America , most immigrants are not of European heritage. It is genocide.

That's how you sound

**cyrille** · 28-03-2021, 11:37 AM

Originally Posted by Backspin

I believed Saddam Hussain had WMD's too but at least I learned something.

One can only presume that what you've 'learned' is that every time a foreign power is accused of acts of barbarism, or of something that endangers regional peace, then it is invariably an invented pretext for invasion or bombing of that country.

That seems at best to be very, very lazy reasoning.

**Backspin** · 28-03-2021, 12:02 PM

Originally Posted by cyrille

One can only presume that what you've 'learned' is that every time a foreign power is accused of acts of barbarism, or of something that endangers regional peace, then it is invariably an invented pretext for invasion or bombing of that country.

That seems at best to be very, very lazy reasoning.

Oh really. You are going with the flow of the mainstream media and basing all of your opinions on what mainstream media says, and you say I am the one with "very, very lazy reasoning".

I used to hate conspiracy theories as much as anyone. But if you look just a little beyond the headlines, it is dog eat dog imperialism out there. And major powers are fighting for turf. There is a half truth to almost every one of these conflicts. Tensions are cynically exploited.

But you seem to think there is a whole truth to all of these conflicts.

**cyrille** · 28-03-2021, 12:37 PM

Originally Posted by Backspin

Oh really. You are going with the flow of the mainstream media and basing all of your opinions on what mainstream media says.

Nope.

Originally Posted by Backspin

But you seem to think there is a whole truth to all of these conflicts.

Another no. You base that on literally absolutely nothing.

You're just so intellectually stunted that you're incapable of judging based on the available evidence* - case by case.

In the case of the Uighur that is a shitload of evidence.

*A point which you have 'pre-proven' for me.

Thanks.

**OhOh** · 28-03-2021, 02:47 PM

Originally Posted by OhOh

"British Foreign Secretary Dominic Raab slammed the sanctions, saying that if “Beijing wants to credibly rebut claims of human rights abuses in Xinjiang, it should allow the UN High Commissioner for Human Rights full access to verify the truth”."

verify

verb [ T ]

to prove that something exists or is true, or to make certain that something is correct:

Post[/QUOTE]

Originally Posted by cyrille

In the case of the Uighur that is a shitload of evidence.

Confidence in ones own evidence or somebody to blame when proven wrong, that one of the accusing governments is demanding "somebody" to go and find it.

One hopes the High Commissioner forsakes short rest during his summer evening strolls.

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**cyrille** · 28-03-2021, 02:55 PM

More false equivalence.

It's all you've got.

**panama hat** · 28-03-2021, 03:08 PM

Originally Posted by OhOh

verify

verb [ T ]

to prove that something exists or is true, or to make certain that something is correct:

No surprise this baffles you

**OhOh** · 28-03-2021, 03:33 PM

Originally Posted by cyrille

It's all you've got.

Your proven evidence is what, the same as one of the sanctioners?

Originally Posted by OhOh

The UN High Commissioner for Human Rights .... to verify the truth”.

You may of course backup up your statement when you have something to lay before us here to investigate, until then you are:

Attachment 66343

Why not investigate why the companies involved in China were forced to stop buying cotton, what evidence and whose "rules" were adopted who is behind the curtain.

Who may sometime in the future:

Originally Posted by OhOh

regret his accusations against ....

**sabang** · 28-03-2021, 03:44 PM

How does it feel to be so enlightened?

**OhOh** · 28-03-2021, 05:17 PM

Just in new evidence oo HRU.

Captured and smuggled out.

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By Liu Caiyu and Wan Lin Published: Mar 27, 2021 08:59 PM

Cartoonist Wuheqilin defends Xinjiang cotton boycott with new illustration, gaining wide popularity - Global Times

**harrybarracuda** · 28-03-2021, 09:08 PM

These chinky apologists do dig up some right space cadets don't they?

It's as if they think the uighurs are the only ones in their country that the chinkies treat appallingly.

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