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    Quote Originally Posted by nidhogg View Post
    Think many would agree that Scalia was a "nefarious actor".......
    Beside the conspiracy theories of his passing...

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    Quote Originally Posted by nidhogg View Post
    Think many would agree that Scalia was a "nefarious actor".......
    The fact that you would think that is a testament to how people make an active decision to ignore history & context because they don’t like it and because other people will give them a second opinion, they’ll take that even if it’s clearly wrong.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Slick View Post
    ignore history & context
    Says person framing it in the way that suits.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nidhogg View Post
    Scalia and others in a 5-4 decision basically decided that the whole first half of the sentence "A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State," was basically nothing more than preamble, and that full weight fell on the second half "the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed".
    And therein lies the root of the problem, the justification to own as many guns as and have as little accountability as possible.



    Quote Originally Posted by AntRobertson View Post
    People like Slick don't actually understand the Constitution and think the 1st and 2nd Amendments are sacred
    They are, by definition, amendments . . . and are open to change or . . . 'amend' even

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    I'm beginning to think someone should come for their guns. anything more than a single shot five round magazine at least.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cujo View Post
    I'm beginning to think someone should come for their guns. anything more than a single shot five round magazine at least.
    How do you suggest they do that Cujo? Just knock on their door and ask them to hand them over? What could possibly go wrong.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pickel View Post
    How do you suggest they do that Cujo? Just knock on their door and ask them to hand them over? What could possibly go wrong.
    Not to mention all the other amendments and laws that would violate and the constitutional crisis it would cause.

    But that doesn’t stop some big names in the democrat party from pushing such blatant madness.

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    People like Slick don't actually understand the Constitution and think the 1st and 2nd Amendments are sacred but probably don't even know any of the others--certainly don't defend them with the same vigor.


    Nobody is coming for their guns and if they are truly moron enough to think that and that they need guns to defend against their own government then they don't know how tanks work
    Quote Originally Posted by Slick View Post
    Not to mention all the other amendments and laws that would violate and the constitutional crisis it would cause.
    LULZ.

    But that doesnít stop some big names in the democrat party from pushing such blatant madness.
    Bullshit.

    You're just parroting the stock NRA / GQP / Fox lies.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JPPR2 View Post
    Assault rifles should be only sold at a few heavily monitored businesses and should also fall under a different screening process.
    Or even not at all?

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    Quote Originally Posted by AntRobertson View Post
    If your first reaction to another bunch of people being murdered is to start / repeat / propagate lies
    Knobertson doesn’t even see it. It’s so thick you could cut it with a knife, but he’s blind to it.

    Fascinating really.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nidhogg View Post
    As I have read it, one of the main purposes of the second amendment was to provide a counter weight to federal power.
    Which is also fucking pointless now unless they include the right to bear tanks, missiles, helicopters and bombers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Slick View Post
    ^End of the day these amendments mean what they mean and itís not even up for debate as to their intention or meaning..
    More horseshit.

    They are interpreted as they are interpreted because they were too vague to be explicit.

    And it's always up for debate as that is the single most important thing that the framers put in the constitution. Is there anything about US government that you understand?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Slick View Post
    The fact that you would think that is a testament to how people make an active decision to ignore history & context because they don’t like it and because other people will give them a second opinion, they’ll take that even if it’s clearly wrong.
    No, Scalia was a constitutional pedant who was too fucking dumb or too fucking stubborn to realise that the world has changed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    Which is also fucking pointless now unless they include the right to bear tanks, missiles, helicopters and bombers.
    Indeed. It will not be long before someone suggests that they should be allowed to own tactical nukes. Just in case, like.

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    gene edited virus' for sale on ebay ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Slick View Post
    ^End of the day these amendments mean what they mean and itís not even up for debate as to their intention or meaning.
    Really? Then what's the purpose of the constitutional court?

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    Who was Backspin previously?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Davis Knowlton View Post
    Who was Backspin previously?
    Socal.

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    Thanks. I thought the moronic posting style seemed familiar. Also wondered who would send me a rude red for a post that said the Colorado shooter looked far older than 21. Guess stupid is forever.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Davis Knowlton View Post
    Thanks. I thought the moronic posting style seemed familiar. Also wondered who would send me a rude red for a post that said the Colorado shooter looked far older than 21. Guess stupid is forever.
    That was payback for a year or so ago when you gave me an epic cvnt red. Had nothing to do with the content of the post.

    Gravesend davis only seems to show up when americans are getting killed in the US or Philippines
    Last edited by Backspin; 24-03-2021 at 08:38 PM.

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    ^You are correct....kind of hard to discern the color differences. Not that I care a whit....I have no idea how much repo I have...it kind of quit being of interest about five years ago or so.

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    The usual suspects bleating about how now is not the time to talk about gun control (thoughts and prayers).

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    In Facebook posts over the last 18 months, he complained about not having a girlfriend, ranted about President Trump and talked about his Islamic faith.

    The New York Times reported on Tuesday that he was known to the FBI because he was linked to another person who has been under investigation for something else. They didn't give any more details.
    Gunman, 21, is charged with murder for shooting and killing 10 people | Daily Mail Online

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    Quote Originally Posted by Klondyke View Post
    The New York Times reported on Tuesday that he was known to the FBI
    Fuckin FBI, again.

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    I can't see Biden scrapping the Second Amendment...

    ...needs to happen.

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