Thread: From Syria to China, dictators are still getting away with murder

Some valid points about Bush and Rumsfeld, and the UK and the Chagos Islands, and some even more interesting - or rather, horrific - points about the Chinese war on the Uighurs. A vile regime acting with total impunity:

Once again, though, there’s no ICC case against China’s rulers for this wickedness. The ICC confirmed in December that because China is not signed up, the Uighurs fall outside its scope. It seems a kind of madness that the very countries guilty of outrageous atrocities can escape justice simply by opting out of the court set up to prevent and punish them.

From Syria to China, dictators are still getting away with murder | International criminal justice | The Guardian

Ever thus, but if those who've killed millions (Russia) or committed genocide (Turkey - Armenia) never get brought to account its weak case against current or future perpetrators.

It really grates with me that Britain has never given an official apology for the Amritsar atrocity.

^ i agree but the subject of what, when and how is problematic.

Essentially there is no framework to define this and no country will unilatarily subject themselves to a process which is undefined.

I often think the only resolution to this is to set a framework to define and arbitrate, and a start date and then try to get this signed through the UN. Problem? how far back do you go. You have to be pragmatic here or you'll never move forward, so a line in the sand is a problem for those depending which side they fall.

The weakness using the UN is vetos held by those powerful enough and subject to guilt, so unless you can resolve this issue a united forum won't work.

Originally Posted by hallelujah

It really grates with me that Britain has never given an official apology for the Amritsar atrocity.

It's an affliction borne by 'victors' - apologies for atrocities? The UK would be jus behind the US in spending years on their knees.

Having said that, how can one apologise for dragging people from their homes and 're-settling' them in another place thousands of miles away to work as slave labor . . .

History paints a bleak picture of 'humanity' - and it certainly isn't confined solely to western nations.

Originally Posted by strigils

I often think the only resolution to this is to set a framework to define and arbitrate, and a start date and then try to get this signed through the UN. Problem?

Theoretically spot on, practically your mentioning the word 'veto' makes fairly well everything related to sovereign nations' atrocities or misdeeds moot.

The UN has massive importance in the world but also suffers from massive impotence.